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Honour killing.
I have yet to met 1 muslim who condemns these act of this religious tradition.
Any muslims here who will?

I typically get response such as...

“The blood of a Muslim may not be legally spilt other than in one of three instances; the married person who commits adultery; a life for a life; and one who forsakes his religion and abandons the community”

“Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification."

“it’s a well-known fact that Islam maintains the protection of life and does not sanction any violation against it”.

Nothing any muslim I have talk to makes sense at all, it seems like they are lying to me, saying no we dont kill, then say we must kill a few moments later...
eg. the other day I was in the islam stickam room and when I was talking to a few muslim women (all married), and after half an hour of talking about female rights in islam, they keep reassuring me that they have equal rights, and a friend of mine ask a question, “do women have to do what ever their husband tell them too”, and the room went silent... no one wanted to answer...

Can any muslim here give me a straight answer... Does islam support the killing of Muslims for leaving islam? Does islam support the killing of non believers? Does islam support the terrorism of non muslims?


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Religon topics..


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Gplex, have you even met one Muslim who approves of these acts?


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Gplex wrote: Honour killing.
I have yet to met 1 muslim who condemns these act of this religious tradition.
Any muslims here who will?

I typically get response such as...

“The blood of a Muslim may not be legally spilt other than in one of three instances; the married person who commits adultery; a life for a life; and one who forsakes his religion and abandons the community”

“Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification."

“it’s a well-known fact that Islam maintains the protection of life and does not sanction any violation against it”.

Nothing any muslim I have talk to makes sense at all, it seems like they are lying to me, saying no we dont kill, then say we must kill a few moments later...
eg. the other day I was in the islam stickam room and when I was talking to a few muslim women (all married), and after half an hour of talking about female rights in islam, they keep reassuring me that they have equal rights, and a friend of mine ask a question, “do women have to do what ever their husband tell them too”, and the room went silent... no one wanted to answer...

Can any muslim here give me a straight answer... Does islam support the killing of Muslims for leaving islam? Does islam support the killing of non believers? Does islam support the terrorism of non muslims?



Zina is prohibited...
Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned... if you are not marriage then you must be slash for 100 times and must leave the village for 1 years...

If you kill someone accidently you must pay fidyah if you kill someone coz of fun... Qisash must be for you....

If abandon village for Hijrah is allowed... but leaving Islam also allowed bu if you want to turn back to Islam... it wasnt allowed...

until you really sure about it...


Islam do not support killing except in battle... if you are in battle then killing is allowed if not then it not allowed...


Islam do not support terrorism... dont put the lines since you can open tafsir.com to know about it...


yes women must follow husband instructions but that depends on situations... women have their rights to reject if that instructions for crimes... if it for good then women have rights to speech...


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The Dahaka wrote: Gplex, have you even met one Muslim who approves of these acts?


Ive only met 4 muslims in real life, 1 of them was my training partner.. and I didnt know anything about their religion at the time, and I havent seen them in years...


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Zina is prohibited...
Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned... if you are not marriage then you must be slash for 100 times and must leave the village for 1 years...

If you kill someone accidently you must pay fidyah if you kill someone coz of fun... Qisash must be for you....

If abandon village for Hijrah is allowed... but leaving Islam also allowed bu if you want to turn back to Islam... it wasnt allowed...

until you really sure about it...


Islam do not support killing except in battle... if you are in battle then killing is allowed if not then it not allowed...


Islam do not support terrorism... dont put the lines since you can open tafsir.com to know about it...


yes women must follow husband instructions but that depends on situations... women have their rights to reject if that instructions for crimes... if it for good then women have rights to speech...


I dont know about the rest of you but this seem pretty barberic..


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I think I better point this out to Itachi.

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned..


Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support killing except in battle...


Can you see why I think you are lying to me?


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support terrorism...



Then what do you call 9/11?


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petrofsky wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support terrorism...



Then what do you call 9/11?


Extremists, but that really doesn’t matter since everyone knows
NEVAR4GET!


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Also why is it only turkey has accepted The Universal Declaration of Human Rights?


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petrofsky wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support terrorism...



Then what do you call 9/11?



if this is a serious question...


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Gplex wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Zina is prohibited...
Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned... if you are not marriage then you must be slash for 100 times and must leave the village for 1 years...

If you kill someone accidently you must pay fidyah if you kill someone coz of fun... Qisash must be for you....

If abandon village for Hijrah is allowed... but leaving Islam also allowed bu if you want to turn back to Islam... it wasnt allowed...

until you really sure about it...


Islam do not support killing except in battle... if you are in battle then killing is allowed if not then it not allowed...


Islam do not support terrorism... dont put the lines since you can open tafsir.com to know about it...


yes women must follow husband instructions but that depends on situations... women have their rights to reject if that instructions for crimes... if it for good then women have rights to speech...


I dont know about the rest of you but this seem pretty barberic..



You cant read my post...???


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Rorschach wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support terrorism...



Then what do you call 9/11?


Extremists, but that really doesn’t matter since everyone knows
NEVAR4GET!



LOL...

Jews bombing WTC...??? why people saying it was Islam...???


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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petrofsky wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support terrorism...



Then what do you call 9/11?



Learn politics then young man...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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Gplex wrote: I think I better point this out to Itachi.

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned..


Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support killing except in battle...


Can you see why I think you are lying to me?



1. Zina is prohibited... Islam never allowed such things unless you want to see your mother fuck with begger....

2. Have you ever read Go Rin No Sho...??? The Art of War...??? If person must not kill in war then what should he do...??? Standing still like sitting duck...??? What will you do if I tried to kill you...???

Answer the bold one...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote:

Gplex wrote: I think I better point this out to Itachi.

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned..


Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support killing except in battle...


Can you see why I think you are lying to me?



1. Zina is prohibited... Islam never allowed such things unless you want to see your mother fuck with begger....

2. Have you ever read Go Rin No Sho...??? The Art of War...??? If person must not kill in war then what should he do...??? Standing still like sitting duck...??? What will you do if I tried to kill you...???

Answer the bold one...


My mother can fuck who the fuck she wants, has nothing to do with me, and I know you think fuck means rape as well so go fuck you, you sorry excuse for a human being.


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam do not support killing except in battle...


Apparently you think stoning is either not killing, or its some sort of battle.

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Aduterly perhaps you can call... if you are marriage men and women you’d be stoned..


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Last edited 11 Aug 2008 05:57 am by Gplex
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11 Aug 2008 05:52 am
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gplex that was the best post ive seen yet and why do people see islamic as terrorists when there not doing anything i may be wrong but yeah.

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Y do people hate on Gplex, He’s unique


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sensfan wrote: gplex that was the best post ive seen yet and why do people see islamic as terrorists when there not doing anything i may be wrong but yeah.


Islam is a religion of force submission for all, and the death and terrorism of those who do not follow islam... how can I not assume those who follow it, will not.. well follow it.


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