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I’ve noticed that some people like to interpret certain verses in the Qur’an, to make it seem like it’s talking about modern sciences. I want to put this to rest. Post whatever verses in the Qur’an that you think is talking about the big bang, evolution, etc. and I will attempt to show you how easy it is to take a vague verse and make it sound like it is being specific about something.

And please, you have a whole mess of verses don’t put them all in one post. I would appreciate it if you would put the verses one by one so I can answer them without having to worry about finishing the entire thing at once.


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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: Can open. Worms everywhere.




COULDNT HAVE PUT IT BETTER


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Oh you just in denial... nothing more you can do but refute of facts... right...???


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Why does it create problems ?

Chechnya to Germany to UK to France to Lebanon to India to Thailand to Bali to Australia ?

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Oh you just in denial... nothing more you can do but refute of facts... right...???



I’m the one in denial? Your the one who is assuming that the Qur’an is talking about modern sciences based on the most vague of verses. Your have no basis.


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Wooow... Did I tell you to find more answer to Islamic Center near your area...???

Right...???

You mean Qur’an said that Life is from water which is Evolutionist said to be the same is not scientific evidence...???


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COULDNT HAVE PUT IT BETTER


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Wooow... Did I tell you to find more answer to Islamic Center near your area...???

Right...???

You mean Qur’an said that Life is from water which is Evolutionist said to be the same is not scientific evidence...???



ISLAMIC TERRORISTS KILL PEOPLE. THATS ALL MATTERS.

“CHRISTIAN/JEWISH/HINDU/BUDDHIST TERRORISTS” DONT EXIST.

PEOPLE LOOK AT ISLAM LIKE IT’S A DISEASE. HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE THAT ?


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ISLAMIC TERRORISTS KILL PEOPLE. THATS ALL MATTERS.

“CHRISTIAN/JEWISH/HINDU/BUDDHIST TERRORISTS” DONT EXIST.

PEOPLE LOOK AT ISLAM LIKE IT’S A DISEASE. HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE THAT ?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
You mean like American troops killing thousand of civilian people of Afghanistan and Iraqi right...???

Like Hitler kill 6 millions of Jews right...

Stalin and Mao tze Dong kill 35 millions people right...???

How can Atheist people changes that...???

I’m looking those people are barbaric and like viruses that need to be replace with cure and medicines...


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NONE OF THEM CLAIMED AFFILIATION TO ANY RELIGION.

HITLER WAS BORN A ROMAN CATHOLIC. HE DID NOT MURDER IN ITS NAME.

STALIN/MAO WERE AN ATHEISTS, BUT THEY TOO DIDN’T KILL IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGIOUS VIEWS.


WHY DOES THE QURAN LEAVE SCOPE FOR MURDERERS TO SPREAD HATE , IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ?

WHY IS THERE SCOPE FOR BIN LADEN, AL ZAWAHIRI AND OTHERS ?





American war in AFGHANISTAN IS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.

AND I AM ONE OF THE FEW VOICES HERE WHO DESPISE AMERICA IN IRAQ.


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NONE OF THEM CLAIMED AFFILIATION TO ANY RELIGION.

HITLER WAS BORN A ROMAN CATHOLIC. HE DID NOT MURDER IN ITS NAME.

STALIN/MAO WERE AN ATHEISTS, BUT THEY TOO DIDN’T KILL IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGIOUS VIEWS.


WHY DOES THE QURAN LEAVE SCOPE FOR MURDERERS TO SPREAD HATE , IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ?

WHY IS THERE SCOPE FOR BIN LADEN, AL ZAWAHIRI AND OTHERS ?





American war in AFGHANISTAN IS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.

AND I AM ONE OF THE FEW VOICES HERE WHO DESPISE AMERICA IN IRAQ.
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Bush 1 and 2...???

Hitler is atheist... believe in darwin theory... and also the people I mention before...


Lalala... Atheist song sing on the dead body of the people the kill...


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WHY DOES THE QURAN LEAVE SCOPE FOR MURDERERS TO SPREAD HATE , IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ?

WHY IS THERE SCOPE FOR BIN LADEN, AL ZAWAHIRI AND OTHERS ?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
They were train to eradicate russian army from afganistan and yet they were trained under the CIA...

CIA try to eliminate them but they refuse... thats all...

oh wait 11 september... 3000 jews not come to the WTC building... accidently or they know about that...???

so...???


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Itachi Uchiha wrote:
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
They were train to eradicate russian army from afganistan and yet they were trained under the CIA...

CIA try to eliminate them but they refuse... thats all...



DOESNT THE QURAN TALK ABOUT MURDERING INFIDELS ?


Itachi Uchiha wrote:
oh wait 11 september... 3000 jews not come to the WTC building... accidently or they know about that...???

so...???



Thats LAUGHABLE, SILLY .. fake ass shit .. so you saying the “three thousand” jews knew it all along .. and none of them cared to warned others.. ?


even someone as VLAD THE IMPALER would have warned anyone else.. and none amongst the THREE THOUSAND did ? check your facts boy


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Wooow... Did I tell you to find more answer to Islamic Center near your area...???

Right...???

You mean Qur’an said that Life is from water which is Evolutionist said to be the same is not scientific evidence...???



I’ve read that verse, and it’s inaccurate towards evolution. You would know that if you would take the time to know how evolution really works instead of listening to the lies and propaganda you hear about it from your fellow Islamics.


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And please, keep on topic.


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: WHY DOES THE QURAN LEAVE SCOPE FOR MURDERERS TO SPREAD HATE , IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ?

WHY IS THERE SCOPE FOR BIN LADEN, AL ZAWAHIRI AND OTHERS ?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
They were train to eradicate russian army from afganistan and yet they were trained under the CIA...

CIA try to eliminate them but they refuse... thats all...

oh wait 11 september... 3000 jews not come to the WTC building... accidently or they know about that...???

so...???




AND STOP USING “LINES” to seperate QUOTES .. USE THE QUOTE BUTTON!


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check your facts baby...

so yeah... Bush said that Iraqi have nukes...??? failed...
Bush said that moslems is terrorist...??? Look what he have done to Iraqi and Afghanistan people...??? failed
Look what Israel done to palestina people...

true...

true...

true...

Bush is the real terrorist not us... they want war... and the war he get...

we never want war... we never want war... it is you all want war... it is you all want right...???


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: check your facts baby...

so yeah... Bush said that Iraqi have nukes...??? failed...
Bush said that moslems is terrorist...??? Look what he have done to Iraqi and Afghanistan people...??? failed
Look what Israel done to palestina people...

true...

true...

true...

Bush is the real terrorist not us... they want war... and the war he get...

we never want war... we never want war... it is you all want war... it is you all want right...???



That has nothing to do about the topic. Yes we all know Bush is a douchebag, but that’s not the topic discussion.


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“I AM NO AMERICAN”

secondly

I TOLD YOU I AM AGAINST IRAQ WAR


WHAT PART OF THAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ?

AND NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION


DOESNT THE QURAN TALK ABOUT MURDERING INFIDELS?


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Edited 15 Jan 2008 07:09 by THE_PAIN
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