| 05 Apr 2009 08:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 36  Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,291 OFFLINE | Haylias wrote:
Mortis wrote:
Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists
Umm... The biggest theistic holy books advocate stoning us to death.
True...
 | | | | 05 Apr 2009 08:49 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61 Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.
I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.
Were not supirior to cats? | | | 05 Apr 2009 11:39 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 39 Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 3,364 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.
I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.
Were not supirior to cats?
You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.
Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.
We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.
You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.
Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology, being pretty slow and bad at catching prey with their bare hands would be pretty fucked.
Mortis wrote:
Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists
What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of the ism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.
 Last edited 05 Apr 2009 11:45 pm by Shaun of the Living | | | 05 Apr 2009 11:46 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.
I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.
Were not supirior to cats?
You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.
Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.
We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.
You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.
Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology and being pretty slow and crappy and catching prey with their bare hands would be fucked.
Mortis wrote:
Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists
What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of the ism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.
We can control all other life forms on Earth, sure we need them to survive, but were supirior top all of them and can use them for our own needs easily. | | | 06 Apr 2009 12:14 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 39Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 3,364 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.
I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.
Were not supirior to cats?
You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.
Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.
We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.
You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.
Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology and being pretty slow and crappy and catching prey with their bare hands would be fucked.
Mortis wrote:
Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists
What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of the ism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.
We can control all other life forms on Earth, sure we need them to survive, but were supirior top all of them and can use them for our own needs easily.
Fucking bullshit. Since when to we control all other species? And how are we superior if pretty much every other species has a unique ability we don’t? We’re just different, noone is superior.
Last edited 06 Apr 2009 12:16 am by Shaun of the Living | | | 06 Apr 2009 05:25 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 43 Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,251 OFFLINE | Shaun of the Living wrote:
Mortis wrote:
Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists
What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of the ism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.
Your a load of shit
Don’t try to deny it, you’ve seen atheists here and other places look down upon someone just for believing in god. I definetly see it from a lot of atheists, always boasting on how they wish all types of religions were extinct and think that your stupid just for having faith
MORTIS, THE SMARTEST PERSON ON MOVIECODEC
 
 | | | 06 Apr 2009 05:28 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
King Boo wrote:
We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.
I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.
Were not supirior to cats?
You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.
Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.
We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.
You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.
Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology and being pretty slow and crappy and catching prey with their bare hands would be fucked.
Mortis wrote:
Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists
What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of the ism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.
We can control all other life forms on Earth, sure we need them to survive, but were supirior top all of them and can use them for our own needs easily.
Fucking bullshit. Since when to we control all other species? And how are we superior if pretty much every other species has a unique ability we don’t? We’re just different, noone is superior.
Wow you are stupid. | | | 06 Apr 2009 07:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 36Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,291 OFFLINE | ahh, the flaming, tis so hot...
But the only reason we would be 'superior' is because of how developed our brain is. We are not the fastest, the strongest, most agile, most sneaky, etc. We survive on our brains.
And theists generally have WAY worse attitudes towards atheists than atheists to theists. ---
| | | 06 Apr 2009 07:31 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Dream of the Endless wrote:
ahh, the flaming, tis so hot...
But the only reason we would be 'superior' is because of how developed our brain is. We are not the fastest, the strongest, most agile, most sneaky, etc. We survive on our brains.
And theists generally have WAY worse attitudes towards atheists than atheists to theists.
Our intelligence and the way we use it to do what we what with inferior animals makes us supirior to them. Do not compare me with a worm you monkey. | | | 06 Apr 2009 07:32 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | This should be stickied instead of the failure of a thred that took Creationists vs. Evolutionists' place. | | | 06 Apr 2009 07:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 36Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,291 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
This should be stickied instead of the failure of a thred that took Creationists vs. Evolutionists' place.
No, everyone else doesn’t like change, and thus does not like Obama.
And Creation vs. Evolution should never come back.
But yeah, you have a point.
| | | 07 Apr 2009 11:52 pm |
Nonsense won't be tolerated Rep: 72 Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 7,292 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
 | | | 13 Apr 2009 04:57 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness. | | | 13 Apr 2009 05:01 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 16 Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 1,556 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
 | | | 13 Apr 2009 05:02 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
I didnt say that. | | | 13 Apr 2009 05:06 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 16Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 1,556 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
I didnt say that.
you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source
| | | 13 Apr 2009 05:07 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
I didnt say that.
you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source
Not for reality. | | | 13 Apr 2009 05:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 16Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 1,556 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
I didnt say that.
you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source
Not for reality.
And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.
| | | 13 Apr 2009 05:13 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
I didnt say that.
you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source
Not for reality.
And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.
We cant give reality a purpose, think about it. | | | 13 Apr 2009 05:18 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 16Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 1,556 OFFLINE | King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Saosin wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Gplex wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.
Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.
Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?
Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.
Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.
You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.
You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.
What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.
If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.
You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.
I didnt say that.
you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source
Not for reality.
And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.
We cant give reality a purpose, think about it.
We can give it our individual purposes. And isnt the purpose of reality to help us differentiate real things from fiction or fantasy?
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