Theists vs. Atheists

Haylias wrote:

Mortis wrote: Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists

Umm... The biggest theistic holy books advocate stoning us to death.

True...

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote: We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.

I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.

Were not supirior to cats?

King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote: We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.

I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.

Were not supirior to cats?

You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.

Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.

We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.

You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.

Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology, being pretty slow and bad at catching prey with their bare hands would be pretty fucked.

Mortis wrote: Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists

What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of theism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote: We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.

I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.

Were not supirior to cats?

You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.

Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.

We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.

You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.

Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology and being pretty slow and crappy and catching prey with their bare hands would be fucked.

Mortis wrote: Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists

What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of theism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.

We can control all other life forms on Earth, sure we need them to survive, but were supirior top all of them and can use them for our own needs easily.

King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote: We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.

I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.

Were not supirior to cats?

You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.

Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.

We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.

You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.

Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology and being pretty slow and crappy and catching prey with their bare hands would be fucked.

Mortis wrote: Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists

What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of theism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.

We can control all other life forms on Earth, sure we need them to survive, but were supirior top all of them and can use them for our own needs easily.

Fucking bullshit. Since when to we control all other species? And how are we superior if pretty much every other species has a unique ability we don’t? We’re just different, noone is superior.

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Mortis wrote: Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists

What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of theism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.

Your a load of shit

Don’t try to deny it, you’ve seen atheists here and other places look down upon someone just for believing in god. I definetly see it from a lot of atheists, always boasting on how they wish all types of religions were extinct and think that your stupid just for having faith

MORTIS, THE SMARTEST PERSON ON MOVIECODEC

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

King Boo wrote: We are billions of times more complex than a single celled organism. WTF are you talking about.

I didn’t say we aren’t more complex. I’m saying we’re not 'superior' organisms because superiority is subjective. Complexity and superiority are not the same thing.

Were not supirior to cats?

You’re not a fast learner are you? There are no 'superior' organisms, survival depends on the circumstances of the environment because all species have different characteristics.

Let’s say there was some kinda global food disaster, heaps of farms were destroyed and civillization broke down.

We as humans in first world countries rely heavily on government and technology to live our daily lives. With society broken down and no technology or industry to help up produce food or hunt, you would see millions of humans starve to death and probably the survivors become cannibals.

You would probably find smaller mammals would be able to survive much better in this environment as they don’t need as much food, can find food a lot easier, can take shelter in smaller spaces and are harder for large creatures to catch, not to mention they breed extremely quickly. Rodents and rabbits could live in this environment, and cats would be able to prey off these rodents and other small creatures.

Humans, needing more food, not breeding half as quickly, being so reliant on technology and being pretty slow and crappy and catching prey with their bare hands would be fucked.

Mortis wrote: Atheists have worse attitudes to theists than theists do to atheists

What a load of shit. Hardly any of us hate theists as people, it’s just that a lot of us dislike certain types of theism, the beliefs of the theists. And for good reason.

We can control all other life forms on Earth, sure we need them to survive, but were supirior top all of them and can use them for our own needs easily.

Fucking bullshit. Since when to we control all other species? And how are we superior if pretty much every other species has a unique ability we don’t? We’re just different, noone is superior.

Wow you are stupid.

ahh, the flaming, tis so hot...


But the only reason we would be 'superior' is because of how developed our brain is. We are not the fastest, the strongest, most agile, most sneaky, etc. We survive on our brains.

And theists generally have WAY worse attitudes towards atheists than atheists to theists.

Dream of the Endless wrote: ahh, the flaming, tis so hot...


But the only reason we would be 'superior' is because of how developed our brain is. We are not the fastest, the strongest, most agile, most sneaky, etc. We survive on our brains.

And theists generally have WAY worse attitudes towards atheists than atheists to theists.

Our intelligence and the way we use it to do what we what with inferior animals makes us supirior to them. Do not compare me with a worm you monkey.

This should be stickied instead of the failure of a thred that took Creationists vs. Evolutionists' place.

King Boo wrote: This should be stickied instead of the failure of a thred that took Creationists vs. Evolutionists' place.

No, everyone else doesn’t like change, and thus does not like Obama.

And Creation vs. Evolution should never come back.

But yeah, you have a point.

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Not for reality.

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Not for reality.

And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Not for reality.

And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.

We cant give reality a purpose, think about it.

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Not for reality.

And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.

We cant give reality a purpose, think about it.

We can give it our individual purposes. And isnt the purpose of reality to help us differentiate real things from fiction or fantasy?