Theists vs. Atheists

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Not for reality.

And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.

We cant give reality a purpose, think about it.

We can give it our individual purposes. And isnt the purpose of reality to help us differentiate real things from fiction or fantasy?

Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

I dont need purpose given to me, I make my own, but by your logic, your god has no purpose. You are going around in a circle making assumptions base on nothing...

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

I dont need purpose given to me, I make my own, but by your logic, your god has no purpose. You are going around in a cirucle making assumptions base on nothing...

God would be purpose, Alpha and Omega.

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Theists don’t need a religion, it simply means you belive in a God.

Atheits or Anti-Theists, believe in no greater power.

Me myself am just a theist, and God to me isn’t physical, it is not mass nor energy, it is the infinite mind behind reality, without it reality has no purpose, the laws of Science exist as they are for no reason, and ultimatly everything exists for nothing, everything is the way it is just because it is. Well, theres my philosophy, agree or disagree?

Purpose - The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal.

Everytime I see someone fall back on a argument like this, I automaticlly think, this person wants to be a slave. They want to be guided by someone or something else, even if that someone else isnt there.

You are falling back on “what I want”, and not what is.

You confuse a reason with purpose. There is a reason for everything.

What is the meaning (purpose) of life.
What is the meaning (purpose) of that mountain.
Both are not really questions.

If there is no source of our Universe, our exists, there is no purpos or reasonn for reality, everything that ever existed is all a dull property of itself. Atoms and physics are ALL that reality is, there is nothing greater than that truth, it just is. I beleive there is meaning, that everything has meaning, and that meaning starts with God not just nothingness.

You are the only one saying nothing has meaning. Youre supposed to give things meaning yourself.
And everything didnt come from nothing.

I didnt say that.

you said there is no purpose or reason if we believe that there is no source

Not for reality.

And im saying that we ourselves give things purpose. Why do we need a god to make a purpose for reality? im assuming thats what you mean by source.

We cant give reality a purpose, think about it.

We can give it our individual purposes. And isnt the purpose of reality to help us differentiate real things from fiction or fantasy?

Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

I dont know and if anyone else knows they havent told me.

What caused your god? why does he exist?

I already know what you probably will say.

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

King Boo wrote: God would be purpose, Alpha and Omega.

What?!? That makes no sense, are you saying only god can assign a purpose to something?

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

Whats your point?

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: God would be purpose, Alpha and Omega.

What?!? That makes no sense, are you saying only god can assign a purpose to something?

Assign purpos? It is purpose. Alpha and Omega mean it is infinite, no beggining or end, it is why there is reality.

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

Whats your point?

Can you please just answer the question.

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

No there isnt a set in stone purpose for reality. only the ones you give it yourself.

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

No there isnt a set in stone purpose for reality. only the ones you give it yourself.

My purpose is that my mom and dad had sex.

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

No there isnt a set in stone purpose for reality. only the ones you give it yourself.

My purpose is that my mom and dad had sex.

I dont think you know the definition of purpose.

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

No there isnt a set in stone purpose for reality. only the ones you give it yourself.

My purpose is that my mom and dad had sex.

I dont think you know the definition of purpose.

Fine, ill use the word reason.

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

No there isnt a set in stone purpose for reality. only the ones you give it yourself.

My purpose is that my mom and dad had sex.

I dont think you know the definition of purpose.

Fine, ill use the word reason.

your reason for being here? or your reason for reality is that your parents had sex?

lol, king you confusing reason with purpose.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

you can say purpose for existing cant you? Purpose just flows better than reason.

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Saosin wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Answer this question plz:

Why does anything exists, what caused this?

I already knw what you probably will say.

If nothing existed we wouldn’t be here to answer the question.
If you are asking about what cause energy to turn to matter.. we dont know yet, but this is no reason to say we came from nothing.

But is there a purpose for reality?

No there isnt a set in stone purpose for reality. only the ones you give it yourself.

My purpose is that my mom and dad had sex.

I dont think you know the definition of purpose.

Fine, ill use the word reason.

your reason for being here? or your reason for reality is that your parents had sex?

my reason for being here is that my parents had intercoarse, what is reality’s reason.

King Boo wrote: you can say purpose for existing cant you? Purpose just flows better than reason.

they have 2 diffrent meanings..

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

We can trace our reason to be here all the way back to the big bang...

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews