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14 Jul 2009 12:02 am
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Isn’t that an insult to Atheists to an extent? Although he is the most rational and down to earth character he has his many characteristic vices, such as his drinking problem, occasional smoking problem, he is impulsive (e.g “Lois my darling *attempts to make out with her*"wink, always quits things (like college, his many novels, relationships etc.) Its really funny, but (from a Christian perspective) it seems that Brian needs Jesus more than the rest of the family. What do you all think? In a show that uses steriotypes in their humor what is the image Family guy is making for Atheists.


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Well the creator is pro-athiest and anit-christian so I’d say that it’s more just for humor. Even God in Family Guy has a drinking problem.

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Well Seth Mcfarlane himself is an avowed atheist and he has stated that of all the characters on the show Brian represents himself the most (evident in the fact that he doesn’t change his voice when voicing him) I think it’s more self-deprecation than anything else. Plus he also tends to portray Brian as the most moral as well. I myself am not an atheist just merely making an observation.


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Brian said he is an atheist because he has been presented with enough evidence.
However jesus has visited them before.

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Peter is alcoholic catholic and Lois is whore of a christian who once made out with her daughter... over analysis much?


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some one new offline wrote: Isn’t that an insult to Atheists to an extent? Although he is the most rational and down to earth character he has his many characteristic vices, such as his drinking problem, occasional smoking problem, he is impulsive (e.g “Lois my darling *attempts to make out with her*"wink, always quits things (like college, his many novels, relationships etc.) Its really funny, but (from a Christian perspective) it seems that Brian needs Jesus more than the rest of the family. What do you all think? In a show that uses steriotypes in their humor what is the image Family guy is making for Atheists.


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Do you realize that he’s a talking dog that has sex with women human women... bestiality... it’s fucking cartoon.


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some one new offline wrote: Isn’t that an insult to Atheists to an extent? Although he is the most rational and down to earth character he has his many characteristic vices, such as his drinking problem, occasional smoking problem, he is impulsive (e.g “Lois my darling *attempts to make out with her*"wink, always quits things (like college, his many novels, relationships etc.) Its really funny, but (from a Christian perspective) it seems that Brian needs Jesus more than the rest of the family. What do you all think? In a show that uses steriotypes in their humor what is the image Family guy is making for Atheists.


I found it funny. I understand that every atheist acts and does whatever they want independent of their atheism.
If I only had 12 years to live my whole life, I would probably be in the same state he is in.
It seems to me that you need a pink unicorn..


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some one new offline wrote: Isn’t that an insult to Atheists to an extent? Although he is the most rational and down to earth character he has his many characteristic vices, such as his drinking problem, occasional smoking problem, he is impulsive (e.g “Lois my darling *attempts to make out with her*"wink, always quits things (like college, his many novels, relationships etc.) Its really funny, but (from a Christian perspective) it seems that Brian needs Jesus more than the rest of the family. What do you all think? In a show that uses steriotypes in their humor what is the image Family guy is making for Atheists.

yeah the bitter atheist is a majorly overplayed stereotype...this might suggest brian was once a deist of some sort but yeah there are some born into the secular view and others,unlike myself, who left god and weren’t bitter...but i have gotten over the bitterness and i am more tolerant of crap atheists like brian and as well as deists

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The MASK wrote: Peter is alcoholic catholic and Lois is whore of a christian who once made out with her daughter... over analysis much?


Peter drinks simply because he’s irish (thats his steriotype), not to relieve stress like brian, though you might have a point with Lois, but I think thats more of an attack on the secret life of daughters of conservative rich people rather than her faith alone. Although her faith is apart of that equation,
@ Bonesboy, Atheists aren’t generally depicted steriotypically outside of Christian media (i.e. tyler perry, veggie tales, bibleman or anything with kirk cameron.)
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All the characters are generally at peace more so than Brian is, and they would all claim to be Christians (even stewie thinks God is pleasently evil straight) As far as finding inner peace, brian is the furthest from it.


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some one new wrote:

The MASK wrote: Peter is alcoholic catholic and Lois is whore of a christian who once made out with her daughter... over analysis much?


Peter drinks simply because he’s irish (thats his steriotype), not to relieve stress like brian, though you might have a point with Lois, but I think thats more of an attack on the secret life of daughters of conservative rich people rather than her faith alone. Although her faith is apart of that equation,
@ Bonesboy, Atheists aren’t generally depicted steriotypically outside of Christian media (i.e. tyler perry, veggie tales, bibleman or anything with kirk cameron.)
@ Supra
All the characters are generally at peace more so than Brian is, and they would all claim to be Christians (even stewie thinks God is pleasently evil straight) As far as finding inner peace, brian is the furthest from it.


I believe the rest of the families “inner peace” comes from blissful ignorance.

Also... Meg is the most distraught character in that familiy and is the most in lacking “inner peace”. She is ironically shown to be the most religious of the immediate family as well.


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Khorib wrote:

some one new wrote:

The MASK wrote: Peter is alcoholic catholic and Lois is whore of a christian who once made out with her daughter... over analysis much?


Peter drinks simply because he’s irish (thats his steriotype), not to relieve stress like brian, though you might have a point with Lois, but I think thats more of an attack on the secret life of daughters of conservative rich people rather than her faith alone. Although her faith is apart of that equation,
@ Bonesboy, Atheists aren’t generally depicted steriotypically outside of Christian media (i.e. tyler perry, veggie tales, bibleman or anything with kirk cameron.)
@ Supra
All the characters are generally at peace more so than Brian is, and they would all claim to be Christians (even stewie thinks God is pleasently evil straight) As far as finding inner peace, brian is the furthest from it.


I believe the rest of the families “inner peace” comes from blissful ignorance.

Also... Meg is the most distraught character in that familiy and is the most in lacking “inner peace”. She is ironically shown to be the most religious of the immediate family as well.


Meg isn’t really the most religious going by whats generally depicted in the show, its not really ignorance that gives them bliss so much as its apathy. Its true though, he purposely tries to depict Christians as two faced hypocrites, but inadvertently he shows Atheists as being screwed up themselves, in a different way though. The main guy who chooses not to rely on God, logically in his situation, is often under the most stress. Meg has her issues simply because she is an “unattractive, awkward teenager”. Brian is Seth Macfarlin, as bonesboy put it, a bitter atheist as its shown in his depiction of Christianity, yet in his attempts to make his character seem realistic he is actually a very troubled soul.

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some one new offline wrote:

Khorib wrote:

some one new wrote:

The MASK wrote: Peter is alcoholic catholic and Lois is whore of a christian who once made out with her daughter... over analysis much?


Peter drinks simply because he’s irish (thats his steriotype), not to relieve stress like brian, though you might have a point with Lois, but I think thats more of an attack on the secret life of daughters of conservative rich people rather than her faith alone. Although her faith is apart of that equation,
@ Bonesboy, Atheists aren’t generally depicted steriotypically outside of Christian media (i.e. tyler perry, veggie tales, bibleman or anything with kirk cameron.)
@ Supra
All the characters are generally at peace more so than Brian is, and they would all claim to be Christians (even stewie thinks God is pleasently evil straight) As far as finding inner peace, brian is the furthest from it.


I believe the rest of the families “inner peace” comes from blissful ignorance.

Also... Meg is the most distraught character in that familiy and is the most in lacking “inner peace”. She is ironically shown to be the most religious of the immediate family as well.


Meg isn’t really the most religious going by whats generally depicted in the show, its not really ignorance that gives them bliss so much as its apathy. Its true though, he purposely tries to depict Christians as two faced hypocrites, but inadvertently he shows Atheists as being screwed up themselves, in a different way though. The main guy who chooses not to rely on God, logically in his situation, is often under the most stress. Meg has her issues simply because she is an “unattractive, awkward teenager”. Brian is Seth Macfarlin, as bonesboy put it, a bitter atheist as its shown in his depiction of Christianity, yet in his attempts to make his character seem realistic he is actually a very troubled soul.


I wouldn’t use the word bitter to describe Brian, to be honest. Cynical is a much better word, and is commonly used toward atheists anyway. I think most of his actual frustration comes from living in a house full of idiots... hence why he has a love/hate relationship with Stewie. Stewie is really his only equal in that house...


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Khorib wrote:

some one new offline wrote:

Khorib wrote:

some one new wrote:

The MASK wrote: Peter is alcoholic catholic and Lois is whore of a christian who once made out with her daughter... over analysis much?


Peter drinks simply because he’s irish (thats his steriotype), not to relieve stress like brian, though you might have a point with Lois, but I think thats more of an attack on the secret life of daughters of conservative rich people rather than her faith alone. Although her faith is apart of that equation,
@ Bonesboy, Atheists aren’t generally depicted steriotypically outside of Christian media (i.e. tyler perry, veggie tales, bibleman or anything with kirk cameron.)
@ Supra
All the characters are generally at peace more so than Brian is, and they would all claim to be Christians (even stewie thinks God is pleasently evil straight) As far as finding inner peace, brian is the furthest from it.


I believe the rest of the families “inner peace” comes from blissful ignorance.

Also... Meg is the most distraught character in that familiy and is the most in lacking “inner peace”. She is ironically shown to be the most religious of the immediate family as well.


Meg isn’t really the most religious going by whats generally depicted in the show, its not really ignorance that gives them bliss so much as its apathy. Its true though, he purposely tries to depict Christians as two faced hypocrites, but inadvertently he shows Atheists as being screwed up themselves, in a different way though. The main guy who chooses not to rely on God, logically in his situation, is often under the most stress. Meg has her issues simply because she is an “unattractive, awkward teenager”. Brian is Seth Macfarlin, as bonesboy put it, a bitter atheist as its shown in his depiction of Christianity, yet in his attempts to make his character seem realistic he is actually a very troubled soul.


I wouldn’t use the word bitter to describe Brian, to be honest. Cynical is a much better word, and is commonly used toward atheists anyway. I think most of his actual frustration comes from living in a house full of idiots... hence why he has a love/hate relationship with Stewie. Stewie is really his only equal in that house...


I would say he is angry about things other than his living arrangements, one thing I notice about his character which parallels with the “atheist steriotype” he has an implied hatred of himself. So he blames God for his flaws, he shows this logic to Meg in the episode when he debutes his beliefs, if God was real and loving she would be good looking like Lois. Although that was a joke there was more to that statement than just comedy, almost philosophical. Perhaps I am looking too far into this but it lines up pretty well.

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I wouldn’t say it’s intentional to make it a atheist stereotype, you’re over analyzing.


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Indalecio wrote: I wouldn’t say it’s intentional to make it a atheist stereotype, you’re over analyzing.


I know it isn’t intentional (like the other steriotypes seen on the show), but its there.


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I honestly don’t think the creator meant for us to look at his comedy cartoon so deeply and philosophically.

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some one new wrote:

Indalecio wrote: I wouldn’t say it’s intentional to make it a atheist stereotype, you’re over analyzing.


I know it isn’t intentional (like the other steriotypes seen on the show), but its there.


No. You’re just over analyzing it. As for the others in the show, most of those ARE intentional.


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The logic he shows Meg doesn’t mean that is his only reason for disbelieving. Also, Brian is shown to have deep set abandonment issues, which would explain depression, drinking, etc... The abandonment issues is the result of never knowing his mother/father (there’s a whole episode dedicated to it).

Also, I’ve known more Christians than atheists that have been alcoholics and depressives. Just saying.


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