some one new wrote:
You use the term christian fairly liberally Khorib, just saying.
I merely use the term to describe those that use it earnestly to describe themselves, simple as that. Liberal or not, it’s fair.
But is it right?
Is what right?
To call someone something they want to be called even if they aren’t.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2 : the hero in Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress
Basically, if the person believes Jesus is their messiah... then they are Christian.
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
I’ve been like many times happier as an atheist...
You could just be saying that since either you never truly believed your religion, or you’re just saying that. Or you’re just different, but most people are happier when they know that when they die, there going to be in eternal paradise. Rotting in the ground isn’t the MOST happy thought.
some one new wrote:
You use the term christian fairly liberally Khorib, just saying.
I merely use the term to describe those that use it earnestly to describe themselves, simple as that. Liberal or not, it’s fair.
But is it right?
Is what right?
To call someone something they want to be called even if they aren’t.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2 : the hero in Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress
Basically, if the person believes Jesus is their messiah... then they are Christian.
Using websters as opposed to a Bible to define what a christian is.
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
I’ve been like many times happier as an atheist...
You could just be saying that since either you never truly believed your religion, or you’re just saying that. Or you’re just different, but most people are happier when they know that when they die, there going to be in eternal paradise. Rotting in the ground isn’t the MOST happy thought.
How do you know what makes more people happy? With most sects of christianity also comes guilt... and heaps of it.
I’ve know genuinely happy atheists, and also many christians that put on a happy face but end up being miserable people (mostly due to pressure). These are just my observations, which are no more right/wrong than yours... but thats exactly my point.
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
I’ve been like many times happier as an atheist...
You could just be saying that since either you never truly believed your religion, or you’re just saying that. Or you’re just different, but most people are happier when they know that when they die, there going to be in eternal paradise. Rotting in the ground isn’t the MOST happy thought.
some one new wrote:
You use the term christian fairly liberally Khorib, just saying.
I merely use the term to describe those that use it earnestly to describe themselves, simple as that. Liberal or not, it’s fair.
But is it right?
Is what right?
To call someone something they want to be called even if they aren’t.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2 : the hero in Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress
Basically, if the person believes Jesus is their messiah... then they are Christian.
Using websters as opposed to a Bible to define what a christian is.
yes, because this explanation is what truly defines what is christian. The reason behind this is because there are now hundreds of sects of christianity alongside many completely independent personal beliefs.
Christianity has completely failed as a whole to hold itself together. They all think they are the correct idea, so there is now no “true” christianity in the eyes of the world. Only one important detail remains in common, and that is that Jesus is their lord and savior.
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
Emos aren’t sad. They’re ungrateful attention whores who pretend to be sad. And the fact that Christians think they are right in being the the special people who are going to spend eternity in paradise doesn’t mean their gamble is any more likely to pay off.
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Last edited 14 Jul 2009 11:12 pm by Shaun of the Living
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
Emos aren’t sad. They’re ungrateful attention whores who pretend to be sad. And the fact that Christians think they are right in being the the special people who are going to spend eternity in paradise doesn’t mean their gamble is any more likely to pay off.
Christians don’t feel that their gambling, they don’t see all religions as being equal (usually).
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Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
I’ve been like many times happier as an atheist...
You could just be saying that since either you never truly believed your religion, or you’re just saying that. Or you’re just different, but most people are happier when they know that when they die, there going to be in eternal paradise. Rotting in the ground isn’t the MOST happy thought.
I think this is the wisest thing you’ve said King Boo.
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some one new wrote:
You use the term christian fairly liberally Khorib, just saying.
I merely use the term to describe those that use it earnestly to describe themselves, simple as that. Liberal or not, it’s fair.
But is it right?
Is what right?
To call someone something they want to be called even if they aren’t.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2 : the hero in Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress
Basically, if the person believes Jesus is their messiah... then they are Christian.
Using websters as opposed to a Bible to define what a christian is.
yes, because this explanation is what truly defines what is christian. The reason behind this is because there are now hundreds of sects of christianity alongside many completely independent personal beliefs.
Christianity has completely failed as a whole to hold itself together. They all think they are the correct idea, so there is now no “true” christianity in the eyes of the world. Only one important detail remains in common, and that is that Jesus is their lord and savior.
Man complicates things.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
some one new offline wrote:
I would say he is angry about things other than his living arrangements, one thing I notice about his character which parallels with the “atheist steriotype” he has an implied hatred of himself. So he blames God for his flaws, he shows this logic to Meg in the episode when he debutes his beliefs, if God was real and loving she would be good looking like Lois. Although that was a joke there was more to that statement than just comedy, almost philosophical. Perhaps I am looking too far into this but it lines up pretty well.
He blames god for his flaw? Hatred of himself? You’re a moron.
some one new wrote:
Notice I said from a Christian perspective and from that outlook everyone needs Jesus. Brian represents a steriotype seen in Christian medias.
Yea, “If you don’t believe, then you need to believe”. I think you still need a pink unicorn.
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Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
some one new wrote:
You use the term christian fairly liberally Khorib, just saying.
I merely use the term to describe those that use it earnestly to describe themselves, simple as that. Liberal or not, it’s fair.
But is it right?
Is what right?
To call someone something they want to be called even if they aren’t.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2 : the hero in Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress
Basically, if the person believes Jesus is their messiah... then they are Christian.
Using websters as opposed to a Bible to define what a christian is.
yes, because this explanation is what truly defines what is christian. The reason behind this is because there are now hundreds of sects of christianity alongside many completely independent personal beliefs.
Christianity has completely failed as a whole to hold itself together. They all think they are the correct idea, so there is now no “true” christianity in the eyes of the world. Only one important detail remains in common, and that is that Jesus is their lord and savior.
Man complicates things.
Yes, we are pretty complicated and we further complicate the matters we see as important. Likewise, it should be remembered that we also wrote the bible.
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
Emos aren’t sad. They’re ungrateful attention whores who pretend to be sad. And the fact that Christians think they are right in being the the special people who are going to spend eternity in paradise doesn’t mean their gamble is any more likely to pay off.
Christians don’t feel that their gambling, they don’t see all religions as being equal (usually).
But you have no real scientific proof for what you believe, just like every other religion out there. So, in a sense, by following any religion you are taking the risk that you could be wasting your life obeying extra laws for a promise you might not get. Not to mention you could worship the wrong God and end up in Hell... although I guess atheists take the same risk in that respect, but it doesn’t really matter to me because I think Hell is a ridiculous idea. If it were more believable it wouldn’t have to be so extremely horrifying to get people to be afraid of it...
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
Emos aren’t sad. They’re ungrateful attention whores who pretend to be sad. And the fact that Christians think they are right in being the the special people who are going to spend eternity in paradise doesn’t mean their gamble is any more likely to pay off.
Christians don’t feel that their gambling, they don’t see all religions as being equal (usually).
But you have no real scientific proof for what you believe, just like every other religion out there. So, in a sense, by following any religion you are taking the risk that you could be wasting your life obeying extra laws for a promise you might not get. Not to mention you could worship the wrong God and end up in Hell... although I guess atheists take the same risk in that respect, but it doesn’t really matter to me because I think Hell is a ridiculous idea. If it were more believable it wouldn’t have to be so extremely horrifying to get people to be afraid of it...
Its not about science though, it personal experience (you’ve heard this before) but lets not get off topic here. Our arguments about heaven, hell, and what God could have done better (according to an atheist) go no where fast.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
some one new wrote:
You use the term christian fairly liberally Khorib, just saying.
I merely use the term to describe those that use it earnestly to describe themselves, simple as that. Liberal or not, it’s fair.
But is it right?
Is what right?
To call someone something they want to be called even if they aren’t.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2 : the hero in Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress
Basically, if the person believes Jesus is their messiah... then they are Christian.
Using websters as opposed to a Bible to define what a christian is.
yes, because this explanation is what truly defines what is christian. The reason behind this is because there are now hundreds of sects of christianity alongside many completely independent personal beliefs.
Christianity has completely failed as a whole to hold itself together. They all think they are the correct idea, so there is now no “true” christianity in the eyes of the world. Only one important detail remains in common, and that is that Jesus is their lord and savior.
Man complicates things.
Yes, we are pretty complicated and we further complicate the matters we see as important. Likewise, it should be remembered that we also wrote the bible.
People who weren’t (and at times thought they were) divinely inspired made the faith more complicated than it was supposed to be.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
Most stuck up preppy people are Christians. What are you getting at?
Emos are sad people, its rare to find a christian emo, since christians tend to be more happy because of their beliefs. I’m not christian, but honestly, if I was I’d be pretty happy that I would be living in paradise for eternity and this dark, dreary life was not the entirety of my existence.
Emos aren’t sad. They’re ungrateful attention whores who pretend to be sad. And the fact that Christians think they are right in being the the special people who are going to spend eternity in paradise doesn’t mean their gamble is any more likely to pay off.
Christians don’t feel that their gambling, they don’t see all religions as being equal (usually).
But you have no real scientific proof for what you believe, just like every other religion out there. So, in a sense, by following any religion you are taking the risk that you could be wasting your life obeying extra laws for a promise you might not get. Not to mention you could worship the wrong God and end up in Hell... although I guess atheists take the same risk in that respect, but it doesn’t really matter to me because I think Hell is a ridiculous idea. If it were more believable it wouldn’t have to be so extremely horrifying to get people to be afraid of it...
Its not about science though, it personal experience (you’ve heard this before) but lets not get off topic here. Our arguments about heaven, hell, and what God could have done better (according to an atheist) go no where fast.
Well, I won’t debate physical evidence then. The reasons I have for not believing in Hell are more argument-based than proof based anyway.
What I don’t understand is why God giving us the freedom to sin was a just decision. If everybody was happy freedom wouldn’t matter anyway. A good parent would try to prevent their kid from hitting people, a good policeman would try and prevent people from shooting each other up, a good citizen would try and defend the innocent if the law was unable to do so. Why does God wait until decades after people have commited crimes to punish them? Why give them the freedom to commit crimes in the first place? If I were God, I would make it impossible for anything to be wrong, ever. Not only would it save victims of criminal behaviour from hurt, it would save the criminal from being punished. To me, it feels like humans on earth have a higher moral code than the Christian god.
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Last edited 15 Jul 2009 08:46 am by Shaun of the Living
Shaun of the Living wrote:
Well, I won’t debate physical evidence then. The reasons I have for not believing in Hell are more argument-based than proof based anyway.
What I don’t understand is why God giving us the freedom to sin was a just decision. If everybody was happy freedom wouldn’t matter anyway. A good parent would try to prevent their kid from hitting people, a good policeman would try and prevent people from shooting each other up, a good citizen would try and defend the innocent if the law was unable to do so. Why does God wait until decades after people have commited crimes to punish them? Why give them the freedom to commit crimes in the first place? If I were God, I would make it impossible for anything to be wrong, ever. Not only would it save victims of criminal behaviour from hurt, it would save the criminal from being punished. To me, it feels like humans on earth have a higher moral code than the Christian god.
A theist made a good point here.
A theist wrote:
My first part got cut off, I said he also could have been talking to angels. Pain and Suffering came from God, death was the fault of Adam, he made himself mortal. Its also interesting that Adam received the blame (rather than Eve) he received the commandment directly from God to not eat it, disobeying him it wasn’t merely eating the fruit. Rageoverdose made a good point in an earlier thread when he stated that God isn’t Omnipotent, but not completely correct (I think he goes to far with that idea). God is Almighty and can do all things for those who call on him and try to follow his will (but thats just it), but he can’t work with those who don’t follow his will. Before they ate the fruit they were pure and without sin (although they had the capacity). Living in paradise with a certain pureness to them, after they ate the fruit like I said before, sin contaminated (as so to speak) mankind, thats why its said that after God destroys this world he will give us new perfect bodies because the ones we have are “damaged goods”. Now Adam and Eve were outside of God’s will (his hedge of protection if you will) which eventually led to their demise.
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