some one new wrote:
Exactly, its comedically showing how screwed up society is from his perspective.
Yes, society.... but atheists are not reflected as a general by Brian. Quagmire is suppose to be christian too, if not very casually, and he is probably the most immoral person on the show besides possibly Peter. There are other in the show also depicted as alcoholics and smokers. Everyone on that show is suppose to represent society as a whole through a funhouse mirror. It’s very rare that a single character represents an entire ideology or group.
End point, Brian is not suppose to be the sum of atheists. He is merely, as someone else pointed out, the most human.
Christian’s stereotyping of atheists may be met by Brian, but I think that is only because his character happens to be atheist.
some one new wrote:
Exactly, its comedically showing how screwed up society is from his perspective.
Yes, society.... but atheists are not reflected as a general by Brian. Quagmire is suppose to be christian too, if not very casually, and he is probably the most immoral person on the show besides possibly Peter. There are other in the show also depicted as alcoholics and smokers. Everyone on that show is suppose to represent society as a whole through a funhouse mirror. It’s very rare that a single character represents an entire ideology or group.
End point, Brian is not suppose to be the sum of atheists. He is merely, as someone else pointed out, the most human.
Christian’s sterotyping of atheists may be met by Brian, but I think that is only because his character happens to be atheist.
some one new wrote:
Exactly, its comedically showing how screwed up society is from his perspective.
Yes, society.... but atheists are not reflected as a general by Brian. Quagmire is suppose to be christian too, if not very casually, and he is probably the most immoral person on the show besides possibly Peter. There are other in the show also depicted as alcoholics and smokers. Everyone on that show is suppose to represent society as a whole through a funhouse mirror. It’s very rare that a single character represents an entire ideology or group.
End point, Brian is not suppose to be the sum of atheists. He is merely, as someone else pointed out, the most human.
Christian’s stereotyping of atheists may be met by Brian, but I think that is only because his character happens to be atheist.
In other words, Brian’s drinking, smoking, and cynicism is not a result of his atheism.
Christians and Muslims lose touch to reality that might of work back 1000 years ago but its the 21st century. Look at what they do today they had Pope John Paul II who was a polish resistance fighter then they replace him with a former hitler youth why because there anti-semetic and its happen before n history
Muslims believe in shari-law n there was a cartoon in denmark n they blew that out of proportion I think they killed the cartoonist. In the Philippines there are torture chambers from the inquisition what they did was they put a replica jesus christ statue on the wall then they cover it up n torture the person, hypocrites then they think their forgiven. What christens do more often is they pray to Jesus as if he is a genie let me win the lotto, help me etc etc they rarely say thank u for ur teachings. America pinched the waterboarding technique from the philippines when the spaniards did it to filipinos then the americans took over did the same thing to them and are still using it in Iraq n Guantanamo. And just sickens me when they pray to jesus after they killed ppl
some one new offline wrote:
Isn’t that an insult to Atheists to an extent? Although he is the most rational and down to earth character he has his many characteristic vices, such as his drinking problem, occasional smoking problem, he is impulsive (e.g “Lois my darling *attempts to make out with her*", always quits things (like college, his many novels, relationships etc.) Its really funny, but (from a Christian perspective) it seems that Brian needs Jesus more than the rest of the family. What do you all think? In a show that uses steriotypes in their humor what is the image Family guy is making for Atheists.
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
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Last edited 17 Jul 2009 07:08 am by Shaun of the Living
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
Not really, actually.
Well, you don’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know your not supposed to do something. Even if we go by the idea that they were kids, little children don’t have vast wisdom of good and evil but they do know that they are supposed to listen to their parents. A kid who knows that they aren’t supposed to put a fork in the toaster isn’t automatically endowed with knowledge of electrical engineering, and Eve didn’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know that they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit off of the tree. Both are just doing what they were told.
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
Not really, actually.
Well, you don’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know your not supposed to do something. Even if we go by the idea that they were kids, little children don’t have vast wisdom of good and evil but they do know that they are supposed to listen to their parents. A kid who knows that they aren’t supposed to put a fork in the toaster isn’t automatically endowed with knowledge of electrical engineering, and Eve didn’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know that they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit off of the tree. Both are just doing what they were told.
Kids are brought up to listen to their parents, kids really don’t do anything wrong, more so than do something parents do not like. There was no wrong at that time, if there was it would be sin, since God is supposed to be good and sin is the opposite, therefor sin entered the world before sin. The Bible fails making sense.
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
Not really, actually.
Well, you don’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know your not supposed to do something. Even if we go by the idea that they were kids, little children don’t have vast wisdom of good and evil but they do know that they are supposed to listen to their parents. A kid who knows that they aren’t supposed to put a fork in the toaster isn’t automatically endowed with knowledge of electrical engineering, and Eve didn’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know that they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit off of the tree. Both are just doing what they were told.
Kids are brought up to listen to their parents, kids really don’t do anything wrong, more so than do something parents do not like. There was no wrong at that time, if there was it would be sin, since God is supposed to be good and sin is the opposite, therefor sin entered the world before sin. The Bible fails making sense.
Sin, biblically speaking, is doing something that goes against God’s will. Within the context of the scripture, its like if a parent (God) told the child not to do something and a big kid (the serpent) said it was okay. Like I said before, when Eve told the Serpent that they weren’t supposed to eat of the tree of Knowledge she was just repeating what she was told. You don’t need knowledge of good and evil to know that you need to do what you are told.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
Not really, actually.
Well, you don’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know your not supposed to do something. Even if we go by the idea that they were kids, little children don’t have vast wisdom of good and evil but they do know that they are supposed to listen to their parents. A kid who knows that they aren’t supposed to put a fork in the toaster isn’t automatically endowed with knowledge of electrical engineering, and Eve didn’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know that they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit off of the tree. Both are just doing what they were told.
Kids are brought up to listen to their parents, kids really don’t do anything wrong, more so than do something parents do not like. There was no wrong at that time, if there was it would be sin, since God is supposed to be good and sin is the opposite, therefor sin entered the world before sin. The Bible fails making sense.
Sin, biblically speaking, is doing something that goes against God’s will. Within the context of the scripture, its like if a parent (God) told the child not to do something and a big kid (the serpent) said it was okay. Like I said before, when Eve told the Serpent that they weren’t supposed to eat of the tree of Knowledge she was just repeating what she was told. You don’t need knowledge of good and evil to know that you need to do what you are told.
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
Not really, actually.
Well, you don’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know your not supposed to do something. Even if we go by the idea that they were kids, little children don’t have vast wisdom of good and evil but they do know that they are supposed to listen to their parents. A kid who knows that they aren’t supposed to put a fork in the toaster isn’t automatically endowed with knowledge of electrical engineering, and Eve didn’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know that they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit off of the tree. Both are just doing what they were told.
Kids are brought up to listen to their parents, kids really don’t do anything wrong, more so than do something parents do not like. There was no wrong at that time, if there was it would be sin, since God is supposed to be good and sin is the opposite, therefor sin entered the world before sin. The Bible fails making sense.
Sin, biblically speaking, is doing something that goes against God’s will. Within the context of the scripture, its like if a parent (God) told the child not to do something and a big kid (the serpent) said it was okay. Like I said before, when Eve told the Serpent that they weren’t supposed to eat of the tree of Knowledge she was just repeating what she was told. You don’t need knowledge of good and evil to know that you need to do what you are told.
Why not? How could they have sin before sin?
They were capable of sin, though they didn’t have the desire to do so, until the serpent tempted them. Thats what Satan does (going back to my serpent is satan discussion) tempts people to sin. But he doesn’t make them do anything.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
some one new wrote:
If they didn’t know disobedience was bad Eve wouldn’t have told the Serpent, that they weren’t supposed to eat it. Even then, its interesting to note that Adam is blamed for this and not Eve. Because he received the commandment directly from God and ate it anyways. The apocryphal book of Adam and Eve goes into more depth perhaps into the beliefs of the people who wrote Adam and Eve.
That would mean Adam and Eve would have had a sense of good and evil before they had a sense of good and evil. The reason Eve talked to the serpent as if she understood good and evil is not because there is a solution to this impossible logical paradox, but because the Bible is a load of complete bullshit written by a primitive bronze age tribe and is riddled with mistakes no God would make.
All there is to it, really.
Do you want to continue this some where else?
Not really, actually.
Well, you don’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know your not supposed to do something. Even if we go by the idea that they were kids, little children don’t have vast wisdom of good and evil but they do know that they are supposed to listen to their parents. A kid who knows that they aren’t supposed to put a fork in the toaster isn’t automatically endowed with knowledge of electrical engineering, and Eve didn’t need to have knowledge of good and evil to know that they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit off of the tree. Both are just doing what they were told.
A lot of kids don’t know they’re not supposed to put forks in toasters. But the fact that some of know that, if they do they’ll get electrocuted, means they have a tiny, tiny, tiny piece of knowledge about electricity. The same goes for Adam and Eve. No matter what, to have the indication that they should have obeyed God would not have desired a complete understanding of good and evil, but some idea of right and wrong must have been there.
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, always quits things (like college, his many novels, relationships etc.) Its really funny, but (from a Christian perspective) it seems that Brian needs Jesus more than the rest of the family. What do you all think? In a show that uses steriotypes in their humor what is the image Family guy is making for Atheists.
