Verses that Atheists don't like to quote

Gplex wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

Because they think they can pick and choose, if you think your holy book is the word of your god, then you can not pick and choose! You must follow it all or not, pick one.
How would you like it if I had a book telling me to kill you but it also had a contradiction in it to say to love you, Then I told you I believe every word in this book, would you feel safe? Wouldnt you think I was mad?

I thought you said what people think didn’t matter...

Gplex wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Which one do you think was the start of life?

Thats like giving you a photo of a bunny and asking you to tell me what sex you “think” it is. Its doesn’t matter what I think, it can only be left as a bunny till any evidence points either way...

^ That is all I was pointing out in his post, and now we have a shit load of debating after that.

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Gplex wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

No one is denying that there is some good in scriptures, but you dont get away for calling us hyprocrites for not following the whole thing, no you dont get away with stuff like that.

If you think your holy book is the word of god,then you can not pick and choose what you want to follow

we cant... we must follow it all... and the harsh lines you mentions... thats for war...

we cant kill someone in peace region... but in war... its allowed...

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Gplex wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

No one is denying that there is some good in scriptures, but you dont get away for calling us hyprocrites for not following the whole thing, no you dont get away with stuff like that.

If you think your holy book is the word of god,then you can not pick and choose what you want to follow

we cant... we must follow it all... and the harsh lines you mentions... thats for war...

we cant kill someone in peace region... but in war... its allowed...

Seem....u sound like ... i have to....!!! U ever tried...? or saying without trying..? Like...why we must follow..? Or what if we don`t follow??

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Sean of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

I think you pretty much answered your own question they choose those verses,because they do CONTRADICT the good verses. So saying Thou Shall Not Kill in one verse,then saying slay false prophets strictly contradict each other thus IMO not making the source material reliable.

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Shaun of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

The problem? The verses are being picked apart, taken out of context, and classified into something that no one said in the first place!

Matthew 13:42- They will throw them [all things that offend, and them which do iniquity] into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Deuteronomy 18:19- If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.

Sura 9:123- O you who believe, you shall fight the disbelievers who attack you - let them find you stern - and know that GOD is with the righteous.

Matthew 13:42 is self-explanitory. (Iniquity being “gross immorality or injustice; wickedness”.)

Deuteronomy 18:19- This may be saying that if you don’t listen to the word of God, He will punish you on judgement day.

Sura 9:123 never says if the “fighting” mentioned is physical. It could mean spiritual fighting (read “This Present Darkness”.

Ok, all of you people out there that are going to belittle me for what I am saying, but I’m 14, for crying out loud! You can’t really expect me to know everything. I’m human, I make mistakes. (Only one person could have claimed any different, and he’ll be back. Cooky for those of you who got that.) These are just my thoughts on the matter.

“Don’t let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity." ~1 Timothy 4:12

Rebelutionary_for_the_Cross wrote:
The problem? The verses are being picked apart, taken out of context, and classified into something that no one said in the first place!

Matthew 13:42- They will throw them [all things that offend, and them which do iniquity] into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Deuteronomy 18:19- If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.

Sura 9:123- O you who believe, you shall fight the disbelievers who attack you - let them find you stern - and know that GOD is with the righteous.

Matthew 13:42 is self-explanitory. (Iniquity being “gross immorality or injustice; wickedness”.)

Deuteronomy 18:19- This may be saying that if you don’t listen to the word of God, He will punish you on judgement day.

Sura 9:123 never says if the “fighting” mentioned is physical. It could mean spiritual fighting (read “This Present Darkness”.

Ok, all of you people out there that are going to belittle me for what I am saying, but I’m 14, for crying out loud! You can’t really expect me to know everything. I’m human, I make mistakes. (Only one person could have claimed any different, and he’ll be back. Cooky for those of you who got that.) These are just my thoughts on the matter.

I made this thread long before I changed my opinion on the matter.

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

Because they think they can pick and choose, if you think your holy book is the word of your god, then you can not pick and choose! You must follow it all or not, pick one.
How would you like it if I had a book telling me to kill you but it also had a contradiction in it to say to love you, Then I told you I believe every word in this book, would you feel safe? Wouldnt you think I was mad?

I thought you said what people think didn’t matter...

Gplex wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Which one do you think was the start of life?

Thats like giving you a photo of a bunny and asking you to tell me what sex you “think” it is. Its doesn’t matter what I think, it can only be left as a bunny till any evidence points either way...

That has been taken way out of context.
Edit: I was explaining to chibi why what someone thinks does not change what really is.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Shaun of the Living wrote: The problem? The verses are being picked apart, taken out of context, and classified into something that no one said in the first place!

How did we take stoning children out of context?

What the Bible says about Children

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote: The problem? The verses are being picked apart, taken out of context, and classified into something that no one said in the first place!

How did we take stoning children out of context?

What the Bible says about Children

I did not mean to say that. I was trying to quote Revolutionary For the Cross and I forgot to put a quote box.

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Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: So many times I have heard Atheists quote verses such as “disbelievers will go to Hell”(Mat 13:42), “slay false prophets”(Deu 18:19) or “Make war on the infidels around you (Sura 9:123). Never have I head you quote “thou shalt not kill”(Exo 20:13), “love thy neighbour”(Mat 19:19) or “Do not agress." (Quran 2:190)

Why is this? Why do you simply ignore all the peaceful verses in the Quran and Bible? The fact that there are violent verses also is a contradiction, but it doesn’t favour the violent side. Even if there’s more verses, might does not equal right. You always rave on about Christians and Muslims choosing which parts of the scriptures they think canon and which aren’t, when you are doing the same things yourselves you hypocrites. Does that not bear at least an ounce of wishful thinking? Perhaps because you feel pissed of and betrayed that you think your religion lied to you?

Because they think they can pick and choose, if you think your holy book is the word of your god, then you can not pick and choose! You must follow it all or not, pick one.
How would you like it if I had a book telling me to kill you but it also had a contradiction in it to say to love you, Then I told you I believe every word in this book, would you feel safe? Wouldnt you think I was mad?

I thought you said what people think didn’t matter...

Gplex wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Which one do you think was the start of life?

Thats like giving you a photo of a bunny and asking you to tell me what sex you “think” it is. Its doesn’t matter what I think, it can only be left as a bunny till any evidence points either way...

That has been taken way out of context.
Edit: I was explaining to chibi why what someone thinks does not change what really is.

Yeah, that post was made last year, incase you didn’t notice, when I was still a theist.

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote: The problem? The verses are being picked apart, taken out of context, and classified into something that no one said in the first place!

How did we take stoning children out of context?

What the Bible says about Children

I didn’t mean to say that. I was trying to quote Revolutionary For the Cross and I forgot to put a quote box.

The bible is one of the most flaw and evil books I have ever read. Why are you trying to justify anything that is in it.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote: The problem? The verses are being picked apart, taken out of context, and classified into something that no one said in the first place!

How did we take stoning children out of context?

What the Bible says about Children

I didn’t mean to say that. I was trying to quote Revolutionary For the Cross and I forgot to put a quote box.

The bible is one of the most flaw and evil books I have ever read. Why are you trying to justify anything that is in it.

I’M NOT. I tried to quote another user and forgot to put a quote box, so it looked like I said what he said.

Nevertheless, if you genuinely took something out of context, I would point it out. Whether it’s in the Bible or not.

Shaun of the Living wrote: if you genuinely took something out of context, I would point it out. Whether it’s in the Bible or not.

That’s what I like to hear.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

It’s likely that Atheists do not quote these phrases because it is what is already expected. We are expected to be kind to one another and the like, so it’s likely that they find no need to quote them rather than avoiding them.

NeonMan5 wrote: It’s likely that Atheists do not quote these phrases because it is what is already expected. We are expected to be kind to one another and the like, so it’s likely that they find no need to quote them rather than avoiding them.

Again, this is an old thread of an opinion that I do not hold anymore. Let it die.

Shaun of the Living wrote:

NeonMan5 wrote: It’s likely that Atheists do not quote these phrases because it is what is already expected. We are expected to be kind to one another and the like, so it’s likely that they find no need to quote them rather than avoiding them.

Again, this is an old thread of an opinion that I do not hold anymore. Let it die.

Oh I wasn’t even paying attention, I just wanted to state my own opinion.