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This is from the King James translation:

Genesis 1:26-“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Genesis 3:22-“And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”

Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.


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Just an interesting find.


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Indalecio wrote: This is from the King James translation:

Genesis 1:26-“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Genesis 3:22-“And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”

Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.


lol dude r u on crack this means that we are supposed to be the dominent speciese of earth and we are learning to know good and evil unlike all other animals. indelecio dont even bother debating leave that to gplex and riptorn they r obviosly more intelegent then you or at least better at debating. vs thread debates r different than religion indelecio.


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lol dude r u on crack this means that we are supposed to be the dominent speciese of earth and we are learning to know good and evil unlike all other animals.


Show me where you get that. It says “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us”

indelecio dont even bother debating leave that to gplex and riptorn they r obviosly more intelegent then you or at least better at debating. vs thread debates r different than religion indelecio.


I’m sorry you can’t see this obvious flaw in your holy book. While I agree that they are more intelligent than me, I also know I am more intelligent than you, and I can see you don’t know what you’re talking about.


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Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote:

Indalecio wrote: This is from the King James translation:

Genesis 1:26-“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Genesis 3:22-“And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”

Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.


lol dude r u on crack this means that we are supposed to be the dominent speciese of earth and we are learning to know good and evil unlike all other animals. indelecio dont even bother debating leave that to gplex and riptorn they r obviosly more intelegent then you or at least better at debating. vs thread debates r different than religion indelecio.



And your debating skills are any better?


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did i ever say that? im pointing out that indelecio had a terrible point. i suck at debating but even some1 as bad as me can c that indelecio totally misread or misunderstood that passage.


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Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote: did i ever say that? im pointing out that indelecio had a terrible point. i suck at debating but even some1 as bad as me can c that indelecio totally misread or misunderstood that passage.


Um it clearly says God said man has become one of US.


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Indalecio wrote:
Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.



Or angels. And it also explains that the “image” is to know good and evil.

Not that this really matters anyway, for anything.


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RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:
Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.



Or angels. And it also explains that the “image” is to know good and evil.

Not that this really matters anyway, for anything.


So he and the ANGELS created man and the angels were also in God’s image?


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Indalecio wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:
Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.



Or angels. And it also explains that the “image” is to know good and evil.

Not that this really matters anyway, for anything.


So he and the ANGELS created man and the angels were also in God’s image?



Probably.

I mean, you can really interpret it just about any way you want. I just think it makes more sense when you think about the angels. That, or God is formed of more than one consciousness.

So, if you want to believe that’s what it says, I guess I don’t give a shit. Sounds to me like you’re just being facetious.


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RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:
Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.



Or angels. And it also explains that the “image” is to know good and evil.

Not that this really matters anyway, for anything.


So he and the ANGELS created man and the angels were also in God’s image?



Probably.

I mean, you can really interpret it just about any way you want. I just think it makes more sense when you think about the angels. That, or God is formed of more than one consciousness.

So, if you want to believe that’s what it says, I guess I don’t give a shit. Sounds to me like you’re just being facetious.


It also doesn’t mention angels. But no I think it’s something valid to bring up.


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Indalecio wrote:

Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote: did i ever say that? im pointing out that indelecio had a terrible point. i suck at debating but even some1 as bad as me can c that indelecio totally misread or misunderstood that passage.


Um it clearly says God said man has become one of US.


after that it cleary says to know good and evil. if people wrote the bibble instead of god then obviosly they wouldnt b so dumb to completly go against what they said


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Indalecio wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:
Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.



Or angels. And it also explains that the “image” is to know good and evil.

Not that this really matters anyway, for anything.


So he and the ANGELS created man and the angels were also in God’s image?



Probably.

I mean, you can really interpret it just about any way you want. I just think it makes more sense when you think about the angels. That, or God is formed of more than one consciousness.

So, if you want to believe that’s what it says, I guess I don’t give a shit. Sounds to me like you’re just being facetious.


It also doesn’t mention angels. But no I think it’s something valid to bring up.



It doesn’t mention anything about other gods either. It just says “we” and “us."


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Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote: did i ever say that? im pointing out that indelecio had a terrible point. i suck at debating but even some1 as bad as me can c that indelecio totally misread or misunderstood that passage.


Um it clearly says God said man has become one of US.


after that it cleary says to know good and evil. if people wrote the bibble instead of god then obviosly they wouldnt b so dumb to completly go against what they said


Well you obviously see the Bible for bullshit then. The point is they were smart enough to write, but, well, they are quite fallible and contradict themselves.


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RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Indalecio wrote:
Not only is there more than one God based on this, but WE, the man is one of them. Gods.



Or angels. And it also explains that the “image” is to know good and evil.

Not that this really matters anyway, for anything.


So he and the ANGELS created man and the angels were also in God’s image?



Probably.

I mean, you can really interpret it just about any way you want. I just think it makes more sense when you think about the angels. That, or God is formed of more than one consciousness.

So, if you want to believe that’s what it says, I guess I don’t give a shit. Sounds to me like you’re just being facetious.


It also doesn’t mention angels. But no I think it’s something valid to bring up.



It doesn’t mention anything about other gods either. It just says “we” and “us.“


Not directly, but unless angels are in the image of God too, why not say “Make them in the image of God, like the angels before them” or something?

It also says “OUR” likeness. Not God’s likeness. Unless God didn’t create the angels and looked like God anyway


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'our' is probably referring to the trinity. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

And I think your looking way to hard into the translations


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Indalecio wrote:
Not directly, but unless angels are in the image of God too, why not say “Make them in the image of God, like the angels before them” or something?

It also says “OUR” likeness. Not God’s likeness. Unless God didn’t create the angels and looked like God anyway



No, it doesn’t say anything directly other than that there are more than just God in this. That could mean either angels OR other gods. I say angels makes more sense because they are mentioned later in the Bible. No other gods are, at least, none that worked with God.

So you can’t say that angels aren’t a possibility when they aren’t “directly” mentioned but accept that other gods are. It’s inconsistent logic.

It can also be assumed angels were just fucking made up for the New Testament, since they really are never referenced in the Old Testament.

Now, I don’t have any scripture for this, but angels are considered by many Christians to have also been made in the image of God.


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Indalecio wrote:
Not directly, but unless angels are in the image of God too, why not say “Make them in the image of God, like the angels before them” or something?

It also says “OUR” likeness. Not God’s likeness. Unless God didn’t create the angels and looked like God anyway



No, it doesn’t say anything directly other than that there are more than just God in this. That could mean either angels OR other gods. I say angels makes more sense because they are mentioned later in the Bible. No other gods are, at least, none that worked with God.

So you can’t say that angels aren’t a possibility when they aren’t “directly” mentioned but accept that other gods are. It’s inconsistent logic.

It can also be assumed angels were just fucking made up for the New Testament, since they really are never referenced in the Old Testament.

Now, I don’t have any scripture for this, but angels are considered by many Christians to have also been made in the image of God.


Well there is the you can’t have any other God before me thing.

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Indalecio wrote:

Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote: did i ever say that? im pointing out that indelecio had a terrible point. i suck at debating but even some1 as bad as me can c that indelecio totally misread or misunderstood that passage.


Um it clearly says God said man has become one of US.


after that it cleary says to know good and evil. if people wrote the bibble instead of god then obviosly they wouldnt b so dumb to completly go against what they said


Well you obviously see the Bible for bullshit then. The point is they were smart enough to write, but, well, they are quite fallible and contradict themselves.


how do i see it as bs? i said if it was writen by people which is the way you see it, not myself


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Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

Mecha Agent Turtle 00T wrote: did i ever say that? im pointing out that indelecio had a terrible point. i suck at debating but even some1 as bad as me can c that indelecio totally misread or misunderstood that passage.


Um it clearly says God said man has become one of US.


after that it cleary says to know good and evil. if people wrote the bibble instead of god then obviosly they wouldnt b so dumb to completly go against what they said


Well you obviously see the Bible for bullshit then. The point is they were smart enough to write, but, well, they are quite fallible and contradict themselves.


how do i see it as bs? i said if it was writen by people which is the way you see it, not myself


So you’re saying people DIDN’T write the Bible?


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