Why Biochemical Evolution fails

I am posting a series of questions, that have never been answered by any atheist i have ever preposed them to.

1. Information: Information is a massless quantity, it is not reducable to matter or energy, how can matter and energy account for the very existence of Information when it is not reducable to either?

2. DNA: Natural selection can only act upon a cell capable of self replication, since that is true, you would have to presuppose the very existence of DNA before natural selection can go to work. How can you suppose the very existence of the very thing which you are trying to prove?

3. Backs of Crystals? The leading hypothosis is, that evolution started on the backs of crystals. Tell me, how can a crystal with a repetative molecular structure like 123,123,123 produce a cell with 280 base pairs of proteins?

Welcome Will4Jesus, hope you make a account.

Information is keep in a patten, just as a rock that I find, will hold a patten of atoms, we could call information.

We can think of the path leading to modern living species as consisting of stages, although it is important to keep in mind that these stages were almost certainly not as distinct as presented here. The first stage was the initial generation of some of the key molecules of life—nucleic acids, proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids—by nonbiological processes. The second stage was fundamental—the transition from prebiotic chemistry to replicating systems. With the passage of time, these systems became increasingly sophisticated, enabling the formation of living cells. In the third stage, mechanisms evolved for interconverting energy from chemical sources and sunlight into forms that can be utilized to drive biochemical reactions. Intertwined with these energy-conversion processes are pathways for synthesizing the components of nucleic acids, proteins, and other key substances from simpler molecules. With the development of energy-conversion processes and biosynthetic pathways, a wide variety of unicellular organisms evolved. The fourth stage was the evolution of mechanisms that allowed cells to adjust their biochemistry to different, and often changing, environments. Organisms with these capabilities could form colonies comprising groups of interacting cells, and some eventually evolved into complex multicellular organisms.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

That looked professional Gplex.

I couldnt remember all the names, so I had to copy and paste it.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Oh I see.

It looked professional because i am guessing he didnt write it on the basis of other replies i have gotten from him. Your entire speech is based upon assumptions. Nature cannot produce coded information, it only produces patterns. Natural selection is insufficient to explaine the induction of massless information into a cell, simply because mutations are 99.9% destructive to the genome, and they 99.9% of the time loose information. Mutations do not add information to the genome, take antibiotic resistance into account, it stopps producing the catalyst protein to ensure survival. again, this answer is not yours, and still is totally inadadquate.

Will4Jesus wrote: It looked professional because i am guessing he didnt write it on the basis of other replies i have gotten from him. Your entire speech is based upon assumptions. Nature cannot produce coded information, it only produces patterns. Natural selection is insufficient to explaine the induction of massless information into a cell, simply because mutations are 99.9% destructive to the genome, and they 99.9% of the time loose information. Mutations do not add information to the genome, take antibiotic resistance into account, it stopps producing the catalyst protein to ensure survival. again, this answer is not yours, and still is totally inadadquate.

Where are you getting this information?

His mind.

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Chilly man wrote: WTF I ain’t got no sound anymore. And I don’t see anything funny about child abuse.

Obviously from first hand experience you find it quite enjoyable.

Zero Gravity

lol

i get my information from studying all aspects of science exhaustivly for the past 8 years of my life. My main field is astrophysics, but biochemistry has become my main dish for the moment

Will4Jesus wrote: It looked professional because i am guessing he didnt write it on the basis of other replies i have gotten from him. Your entire speech is based upon assumptions. Nature cannot produce coded information, it only produces patterns. Natural selection is insufficient to explaine the induction of massless information into a cell, simply because mutations are 99.9% destructive to the genome, and they 99.9% of the time loose information. Mutations do not add information to the genome, take antibiotic resistance into account, it stopps producing the catalyst protein to ensure survival. again, this answer is not yours, and still is totally inadadquate.

.. I said that...
I would like you to tell me where you got this figure of 99.9%?
Coded information now? Can you give a example of this coded information that nature couldnt natural make.
The answer I copy answer everything you asked...

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Dr. Georgia Purdum, Doctrorate in molecular genetics, ohio state university. Crystals for instance, are produced naturally, it has a repetative molecular structure such as everything else produced naturally, like wavey lines in the sand from the tide. if you were to come across harry loves jean written in the sand, you would logically deduce that that information was given by an intelligent source, its too intrricate to be produced by a natural mindless process

Dr. Georgia Purdum, Doctrorate in molecular genetics, ohio state university. Crystals for instance, are produced naturally, it has a repetative molecular structure such as everything else produced naturally, like wavey lines in the sand from the tide. if you were to come across harry loves jean written in the sand, you would logically deduce that that information was given by an intelligent source, its too intrricate to be produced by a natural mindless process

Will4Jesus wrote: Dr. Georgia Purdum, Doctrorate in molecular genetics, ohio state university. Crystals for instance, are produced naturally, it has a repetative molecular structure such as everything else produced naturally, like wavey lines in the sand from the tide. if you were to come across harry loves jean written in the sand, you would logically deduce that that information was given by an intelligent source, its too intrricate to be produced by a natural mindless process

lol intelligent design argument. Okay you know what you are forgetting? You are comparing non living things to living things. If you look a field of weeds, do you assume someone grew the weeds? No you assume they grew NATURALLY.

look at the molecular structure of weeds verses the complexity of DNA, tell me, what is the compairison?

Will4Jesus wrote: Dr. Georgia Purdum, Doctrorate in molecular genetics, ohio state university. Crystals for instance, are produced naturally, it has a repetative molecular structure such as everything else produced naturally, like wavey lines in the sand from the tide. if you were to come across harry loves jean written in the sand, you would logically deduce that that information was given by an intelligent source, its too intrricate to be produced by a natural mindless process

Or if you came across a face in another planet, someone must have made it right?

What about a statue of bigfoot?

Of course nature can produce complex things.
Are you just dropping the other 2 arguments?

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

lol... you guys still havent answered my questions, you just scoff at ID arguments. You take the focus off the issue, like most self proclaimed scientifically endoud atheists.... come on guys.. you can do much better

Will4Jesus wrote: look at the molecular structure of weeds verses the complexity of DNA, tell me, what is the compairison?

So because something is complex means it couldn’t have been formed naturally? By that logic God is infinitly complex meaning he logically has to have had a infinitly larger complex being create him and one for that creator and the next and the next. By your “Oh it’s to complex to be natural” argument.

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Will4Jesus wrote: Dr. Georgia Purdum, Doctrorate in molecular genetics, ohio state university. Crystals for instance, are produced naturally, it has a repetative molecular structure such as everything else produced naturally, like wavey lines in the sand from the tide. if you were to come across harry loves jean written in the sand, you would logically deduce that that information was given by an intelligent source, its too intrricate to be produced by a natural mindless process

lol intelligent design argument. Okay you know what you are forgetting? You are comparing non living things to living things. If you look a field of weeds, do you assume someone grew the weeds? No you assume they grew NATURALLY.

You notice that too.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

you know full well that the face on mars was a shadow, and photoshop to make “Bigfoot on mars”