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Why can’t people of faith understand this.. Oh wait...


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no duh you cant reason with it.


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Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


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riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.
It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.

It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


One of religions biggest deals is that everyone is born with a defect. Doesn’t really matter what religion because in that reguards they are all the same.


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riptorn311 wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.

It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


One of religions biggest deals is that everyone is born with a defect. Doesn’t really matter what religion because in that reguards they are all the same.



Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Scientology... huh, I think you’re right.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.
It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


QFW.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.

It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


One of religions biggest deals is that everyone is born with a defect. Doesn’t really matter what religion because in that reguards they are all the same.



Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Scientology... huh, I think you’re right.


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The only differences in religion are aesthetic when you look at the core doctrine...They all share traits of one another simply because they were all founded on the same principal...Answers for questions we don’t have explinations for at this time.


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Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.

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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


Simply because there are people who make millions of dollrs trying to prove he does. I don’t fleece the people out of their hard earned money for fear of the afterlife. I just present evidence(often citing the infallible word of god) and let people decide for themselves. If they state something erroneous I refute them. Simple enough. There are people who listen. This very forum proves that.


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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?


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The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?


I’m on a mission from Jebus himself!!! He told me (in a dream no less) to disprove his daddy!!!


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riptorn311 wrote:

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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?


I’m on a mission from Jebus himself!!! He told me (in a dream no less) to disprove his daddy!!!


Your a Champion grin


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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.



Well, everyone needs to realize that that the bible was written by a man, not a god...some man in some cave is said to have written it or something. Did you know that man sins? In this case it’s obvious he could have written a lot of lies or maybe distorted it. We don’t know, and we probably won’t ever know, the universe is huge, you don’t know what’s out there, earth is just a tiny little planet. I believe people should believe what they see, what they think is right by logic and not what they WANT to believe. There can only be fact and fiction.


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The MASK wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?


I’m on a mission from Jebus himself!!! He told me (in a dream no less) to disprove his daddy!!!


Your a Champion grin


I always knew that. I was just waiting for you to realize it too..lmao


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The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.

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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.



Well, everyone needs to realize that that the bible was written by a man, not a god...some man in some cave is said to have written it or something. Did you know that man sins? In this case it’s obvious he could have written a lot of lies or maybe distorted it. We don’t know, and we probably won’t ever know, the universe is huge, you don’t know what’s out there, earth is just a tiny little planet. I believe people should believe what they see, what they think is right by logic and not what they WANT to believe. There can only be fact and fiction.


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pola wrote:

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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???


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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.



Well, everyone needs to realize that that the bible was written by a man, not a god...some man in some cave is said to have written it or something. Did you know that man sins? In this case it’s obvious he could have written a lot of lies or maybe distorted it. We don’t know, and we probably won’t ever know, the universe is huge, you don’t know what’s out there, earth is just a tiny little planet. I believe people should believe what they see, what they think is right by logic and not what they WANT to believe. There can only be fact and fiction.


Said the all wise triracial Jamaican



“What you see is what you get”, I take that quite literally as it is 90% accurate in almost all cases.


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God (By that I mean the christian god because he’s the “REAL” one) and free will don’t mix.


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