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riptorn311 wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.

It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


One of religions biggest deals is that everyone is born with a defect. Doesn’t really matter what religion because in that reguards they are all the same.



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D.W. wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Because faith means making a virtue out of NOT THINKING...


Exactly! In the story of Adam and Eve, eating from the tree of “Knowledge” is the original sin. Blind faith is a virtue and questioning God’s authority is a terrible act.

It also seems like sort of like a sexual metaphor to me... trying to make people feel like shit about their true selves so they get pleasure from God. Christianity is a religion based on guilt, making people feel like shit about who they really are so they turn to God. Anybody who 'worships' someone else has self esteem problems; whether God, a political figure, someone you have a crush on, even a musician or sports star.
Just by being born, you are a sinful being because of an ancient 6000 year old crime you didn’t commit, not worthy to lick God’s ass, and the only way you can be better is to unquestionably do everything God says and worship him as better than you or you will be tortured for all eternity in Hell, and you’ll deserve every fucking second of it.

Why can’t people see the con?


One of religions biggest deals is that everyone is born with a defect. Doesn’t really matter what religion because in that reguards they are all the same.



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At least inbreeding(and slavery) is looked upon as being o.k. in the bible...But shellfish??? You better put that shrimp down or your going to hell!!! Wrap that one around in your mind and rationalize it...


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14 Aug 2009 01:19 am
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riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

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pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.

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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)


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[Quote] #25
14 Aug 2009 01:41 am
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riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.

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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)


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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Fail...And I’ll tell you why.

pola wrote: You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make


If events are preodained then it doesnt matter what we say, do , and believe, what decisions we make, and what “path” we follow. The end result is the same. It’s not that difficult to understand that free will cannot exist while living a subserviant lifestyle.


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14 Aug 2009 01:56 am
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Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.

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pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.


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ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.


Once again proving the validity of the thread’s claim...Jebus


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riptorn311 wrote: Once again proving the validity of the thread’s claim...Jebus


lol.


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14 Aug 2009 02:19 am
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ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.

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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?


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14 Aug 2009 02:25 am
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ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?




You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.

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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


Fail again....and here is why....again..geesh...

pola wrote: The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out.


Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?




You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.


Atheist will stop complaining as soon as you stop bitching about evolution, big bang and the idea that the earth is 6000 years old.


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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?




You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.


Me seemes to think that you forget that this a DEBATE thread..


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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?




You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.


I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?

I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.


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riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

pola wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

The MASK wrote:

pola wrote: Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.


So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?



Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.


And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???



You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.


Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)




An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.


Do you have mental handicaps?

Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)



Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.


Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.



Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.


Fail again....and here is why....again..geesh...

pola wrote: The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out.


Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


Oh PLEASE respond to this...


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