pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind.
The same reason environmentalists try to prove to people that global warming is a human made threat, or the same reason that human rights activists push for equality in society. Most people fail to see the evil and stupidity in religion and I point it out with debating and facts. I also like debating, but I’m shit at political and VS debates so I stick to what I’m best with, because I alter my opinions to fit the facts, not the facts to fit my opinion.
You seem to be implying I have some kind of repressed belief in my sub conscious and that I’m trying to convince myself God doesn’t exist by arguing with other people. If this is the contention you’re trying to get across, you can apply the same bullshit reasoning to anyone who debates their opinions with other people. Why are you here? Are you supressing YOUR secret disbelief in God by arguing with us? Nobody is forcing you to come on here.
pola wrote:
Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
Of course! An invisible spirit is manipulating my actions in ways that cannot be proven by any means! And he’s doing it to convince me he doesn’t exist which is the exact opposite of what he wants! Why didn’t I think of that? I’m not being open minded enough. Not only that, but God is externally influencing my thoughts and I somehow have 100% free will in accepting or rejecting him, making me responsible for my own disbelief.
Next time it rains and you’re in bed, listen to the drops bounce off your roof, and consider the fact that it could be aliens who control the weather tapping secret messages to you in morse code from another planet.
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Last edited 14 Aug 2009 02:46 am by Shaun of the Living
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
Fail again....and here is why....again..geesh...
pola wrote:
The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out.
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.
Still thinking up an explination for what you backed yourself into???
Nooooo...don’t run him off Shaun with your critical thinking skills...It’s too much fun...lmao
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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Dammit...it always ends up the same..How many times do I have to say it? It sets the human race back.
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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Well then, talk with someone who isn’t angry..Like me..All I ask is a response to quote #46...
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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Hummmm someone is getting upset
Because you’re being retarded in telling me what I believe and making implications about me when you don’t even know me. But I’m going to guess you don’t really believe in God, you just want to believe in the fairy tale that is the Bible. Come on admit it. You try to escape that it is, but you can’t escape the fact that it’s a fairy tale. Amirite?
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
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pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Hummmm someone is getting upset
Because you’re being retarded in telling me what I believe and making implications about me when you don’t even know me. But I’m going to guess you don’t really believe in God, you just want to believe in the fairy tale that is the Bible. Come on admit it. You try to escape that it is, but you can’t escape the fact that it’s a fairy tale. Amirite?
Not at all. And i dont know you. But i do know you seem to put a lot of time in thinking about god.
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Well, you asked why we debate the bible if it’s a bullshit story, and I told you it was affecting the youth. I gave examples of what we could teach to also affect the youth in such a manner.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Hummmm someone is getting upset
Because you’re being retarded in telling me what I believe and making implications about me when you don’t even know me. But I’m going to guess you don’t really believe in God, you just want to believe in the fairy tale that is the Bible. Come on admit it. You try to escape that it is, but you can’t escape the fact that it’s a fairy tale. Amirite?
Not at all. And i dont know you. But i do know you seem to put a lot of time in thinking about god.
So you get that I think about God a lot based on the fact I post in debate threads about it sometimes? hmmmmm
Rosputin wrote:
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
