pola wrote:
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
If someone kept thinking about Alice in Wonderland it wouldn’t mean they believed in it.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Well, you asked why we debate the bible if it’s a bullshit story, and I told you it was affecting the youth. I gave examples of what we could teach to also affect the youth in such a manner.
So we should just stop teaching history. Becuase that is what you are basicly saying. If we dont teach about the holocuast then why not stop teaching about ww2 in general. And any other war at that or anything that involved or didnt involve religion
Rosputin wrote:
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
Or Schizophrenia
Or Delusional...
__________________
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
Rosputin wrote:
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
Fail again....and here is why....again..geesh...
pola wrote:
The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out.
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Well, you asked why we debate the bible if it’s a bullshit story, and I told you it was affecting the youth. I gave examples of what we could teach to also affect the youth in such a manner.
So we should just stop teaching history. Becuase that is what you are basicly saying. If we dont teach about the holocuast then why not stop teaching about ww2 in general. And any other war at that or anything that involved or didnt involve religion
Obviously you just missed the point. I am not honestly suggesting you do that. I am telling you why I argue against BULLSHIT like the Bible and giving you examples of other bullshit things we could teach kids.
Rosputin wrote:
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
Or Schizophrenia
Or Delusional...
Or stoned like a muddafugga
Weed is the key to jebus!!! Smoke the dank and become enlightened!!!
__________________
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Well, you asked why we debate the bible if it’s a bullshit story, and I told you it was affecting the youth. I gave examples of what we could teach to also affect the youth in such a manner.
So we should just stop teaching history. Becuase that is what you are basicly saying. If we dont teach about the holocuast then why not stop teaching about ww2 in general. And any other war at that or anything that involved or didnt involve religion
He doesn’t think they shouldn’t teach about the Holocaust, he’s pointing out a faulty conclusion that can be reached with YOUR type of reasoning. I hate it when I point out the stupidity of someone’s argument and they go along with it, proving my point and not realising it.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Hummmm someone is getting upset
Because you’re being retarded in telling me what I believe and making implications about me when you don’t even know me. But I’m going to guess you don’t really believe in God, you just want to believe in the fairy tale that is the Bible. Come on admit it. You try to escape that it is, but you can’t escape the fact that it’s a fairy tale. Amirite?
Not at all. And i dont know you. But i do know you seem to put a lot of time in thinking about god.
So you get that I think about God a lot based on the fact I post in debate threads about it sometimes? hmmmmm
Sometimes. Dont try and sound like you come here very few. Heck you have choose to be on here now for hours.
Rosputin wrote:
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
Or Schizophrenia
Or Delusional...
Or stoned like a muddafugga
Weed is the key to jebus!!! Smoke the dank and become enlightened!!!
Funny thing, me and my friend made this “70’s Jesus” character. He is basically Jesus looking as if he is from the 70s and instead of performing miracles he makes people stoned and instead of getting crucified for sins, he ODs for our right to fight the MAN.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Hummmm someone is getting upset
Because you’re being retarded in telling me what I believe and making implications about me when you don’t even know me. But I’m going to guess you don’t really believe in God, you just want to believe in the fairy tale that is the Bible. Come on admit it. You try to escape that it is, but you can’t escape the fact that it’s a fairy tale. Amirite?
Not at all. And i dont know you. But i do know you seem to put a lot of time in thinking about god.
So you get that I think about God a lot based on the fact I post in debate threads about it sometimes? hmmmmm
Sometimes. Dont try and sound like you come here very few. Heck you have choose to be on here now for hours.
Unlike you god’s making you type while the rest us chose freely to stay and laugh at you.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
I think it’s rather funny, This is a DEBATE thread. Also a “true” atheist. What the hell is a “true” atheist?
I do not believe in your skydaddy. Sorry. But if you wanna play “I know you more than you know you” game, then I’m going to say you just like to believe Fairy Tales, like the Bible. See? I can make assumptions about you too.
Play what ever game you want. The fact is debate thread or not you still have god so strongly on your mind you came to this thread. You cant excape it. You could choose to just not believe in god and get on with your life but you dont.
Again, do you have mental handicaps?
What the hell does this have to do with reality? Seriously. God is hardly EVER EVER on my mind. Only when I am in a religious debate.
Just stop right now because you’re talking as if I do believe but don’t want to be judged or something. Right? That’s what you think right?
Hummmm someone is getting upset
Because you’re being retarded in telling me what I believe and making implications about me when you don’t even know me. But I’m going to guess you don’t really believe in God, you just want to believe in the fairy tale that is the Bible. Come on admit it. You try to escape that it is, but you can’t escape the fact that it’s a fairy tale. Amirite?
Not at all. And i dont know you. But i do know you seem to put a lot of time in thinking about god.
So you get that I think about God a lot based on the fact I post in debate threads about it sometimes? hmmmmm
Sometimes. Dont try and sound like you come here very few. Heck you have choose to be on here now for hours.
I was idle most of that time. I don’t close my windows on the computer all the time.
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Well, you asked why we debate the bible if it’s a bullshit story, and I told you it was affecting the youth. I gave examples of what we could teach to also affect the youth in such a manner.
So we should just stop teaching history. Becuase that is what you are basicly saying. If we dont teach about the holocuast then why not stop teaching about ww2 in general. And any other war at that or anything that involved or didnt involve religion
He doesn’t think they shouldn’t teach about the Holocaust, he’s pointing out a faulty conclusion that can be reached with YOUR type of reasoning. I hate it when I point out the stupidity of someone’s argument and they go along with it, proving my point and not realising it.
Facepalm after facepalm...pola...I’m asking you politely to answer quote 46..I’ve asked 4 times and it has been seconded once...why are you avoiding it?
__________________
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
Rosputin wrote:
Religion is such a touchy topic. I really don’t have much to say besides what i previously stated “What you see is what you get”. If you see a ghost, it’s a ghost, if you see a god, it’s a god, if you don’t then it’s not.
Or Schizophrenia
Or Delusional...
Or stoned like a muddafugga
Weed is the key to jebus!!! Smoke the dank and become enlightened!!!
Funny thing, me and my friend made this “70’s Jesus” character. He is basically Jesus looking as if he is from the 70s and instead of performing miracles he makes people stoned and instead of getting crucified for sins, he ODs for our right to fight the MAN.
To OD on weed, Jesus would have to smoke 680kg in 15 minutes
LOL that explains a lot
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Last edited 14 Aug 2009 03:11 am by Shaun of the Living
pola wrote:
Why are you so determined to prove he doesnt exist. Constintly trying again and again to give proof. It seems to me the thought of god is constintly on your mind. Could it be that god is pursuing you. God is pushing the issue on you so that one day you will see.
So “God” is pushing him to disprove his existence... are you high?
Nice try attempting to flip what i said. God is pushing the idea. What he does with the idea is his choice.
And how exactly does that “free choice” fit in with god’s plan??? I still love how people think that there is free will when things have been preordained by god himself...See the fallacy there???
You mean events have been preordained. Not the choices we make.
Thank you for proving the validity of the claim that this thread makes....(Facepalm)
An event and a choice are seperate. As in not the same thing.
Do you have mental handicaps?
Making a choice IS an event, and what happens after said choice is the event as a result of the choice(Which is also an event)
Never mind internet debating makes it to difficult to show you what im acctualy trying to say. For instance your use of the word event is for litteraly everything. I was using a less defined meaning for the word event. Both are perfectly acceptable.
Yeah you’re not making any sense sir. An event is everything. Weather it is big or small. It doesn’t matter. A choice is not any different from an event, and I have no idea how you could even think that if events are preordained that the choices would not have been either.
Look im not using the word event like you guys are.
Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.
So God actually has no plan for anyone. Correct? He just influences. That isn’t preordination. That is just influencing, and if he did that how come I felt better when I became an atheist?
You felt so good about it you still cant stop talking about religion huu??
A true atheist would just stop even thinking about god in general and get on with their life. Most atheist here on the other hand cant seem excape the thought of god even if its denial.
The reason we talk about it, is because it’s such a (pardon my french) BULLSHIT story...
Its such a bullshit story that you cannot stop thinking about it. Shouldnt it just be that a bullshit story to you. Not something to acctualy waist time on thinking about.
Because the children of today are being taught BULLSHIT. Let’s teach kids that sin and not gravity is what holds us on earth! Let’s also teach them that the holocaust never happened too!
Lol gravity is obviously what keeps us on the ground. Christian schools teach that. And i hope the holocause thing was just a joke
Well, you asked why we debate the bible if it’s a bullshit story, and I told you it was affecting the youth. I gave examples of what we could teach to also affect the youth in such a manner.
So we should just stop teaching history. Becuase that is what you are basicly saying. If we dont teach about the holocuast then why not stop teaching about ww2 in general. And any other war at that or anything that involved or didnt involve religion
He doesn’t think they shouldn’t teach about the Holocaust, he’s pointing out a faulty conclusion that can be reached with YOUR type of reasoning. I hate it when I point out the stupidity of someone’s argument and they go along with it, proving my point and not realising it.
My type of reasoning. And what would that be.
If it’s just bullshit we shouldn’t waist time on it. But if we taught kids other bullshit stories and ideas, I bet you would waist time on it wouldn’t you? This is what we are getting at.
riptorn311 wrote:
Facepalm after facepalm...pola...I’m asking you politely to answer quote 46..I’ve asked 4 times and it has been seconded once...why are you avoiding it?
O im sorry i didnt realize i had to go and look at every individual post. By the time you post that its lost in 4 other quote posts.
Goddamn people and the huge-ass quote boxes...>.> Sorry, I just had to point it out in the hopes that people would cut down. (really, can’t you just like, delete the other stuff and keep the one quoted message? Makes it more understandable and less lengthy)
Anyway...
Pola, this whole thing about Chibi “thinking about God a lot”...just, honestly, drop it. It isn’t something where you can say “zomg he thinks about God so he must secretly believe in God!"
You think about atheism so you must secretly be atheist. >.> See how stupid that is?
“Yes Ty that is a very stupid thing to say because I am not an atheist I am a christian. -nod nod-"
(side note: I just realized google spellcheck says that christian should be capitalized but lowercase atheism is fine. xD ANYWAY)
You’re basically pulling at straws, trying to make him out to be some secret christian thing. There’s not only no point in that, it really makes you out to be a bit/really disrespectful and assumptive, up to the point of people potentially calling you a prick.
Now I know this response is a LITTLE long, and will probably get lost in the quote-lengths (-side glance-) but I’d be a happy as hell dragon if you could pretty pwease stop trying to make Chibi look like what he isn’t. (and pretty much failing at that)
EDIT: Or better yet it’s going to go to the next page and nobody will even know this post exists. xD
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