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[Quote] #81
14 Aug 2009 03:18
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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Facepalm after facepalm...pola...I’m asking you politely to answer quote 46..I’ve asked 4 times and it has been seconded once...why are you avoiding it?



O im sorry i didnt realize i had to go and look at every individual post. By the time you post that its lost in 4 other quote posts.


So...you answer this post but not my request.I love it!!!! You guys see that??? I gave him the post number and he STILL refuses to speak about it..Common dude...Whatcha got to lose???


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14 Aug 2009 03:18
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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Goddamn people and the huge-ass quote boxes...>.> Sorry, I just had to point it out in the hopes that people would cut down. (really, can’t you just like, delete the other stuff and keep the one quoted message? Makes it more understandable and less lengthy)

Anyway...

Pola, this whole thing about Chibi “thinking about God a lot”...just, honestly, drop it. It isn’t something where you can say “zomg he thinks about God so he must secretly believe in God!"
You think about atheism so you must secretly be atheist. >.> See how stupid that is?
“Yes Ty that is a very stupid thing to say because I am not an atheist I am a christian. -nod nod-"
(side note: I just realized google spellcheck says that christian should be capitalized but lowercase atheism is fine. xD ANYWAY)
You’re basically pulling at straws, trying to make him out to be some secret christian thing. There’s not only no point in that, it really makes you out to be a bit/really disrespectful and assumptive, up to the point of people potentially calling you a prick.
Now I know this response is a LITTLE long, and will probably get lost in the quote-lengths (-side glance-) but I’d be a happy as hell dragon if you could pretty pwease stop trying to make Chibi look like what he isn’t. (and pretty much failing at that)

EDIT: Or better yet it’s going to go to the next page and nobody will even know this post exists. xD


I noticed it


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[Quote] #83
14 Aug 2009 03:20
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riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Facepalm after facepalm...pola...I’m asking you politely to answer quote 46..I’ve asked 4 times and it has been seconded once...why are you avoiding it?



O im sorry i didnt realize i had to go and look at every individual post. By the time you post that its lost in 4 other quote posts.


So...you answer this post but not my request.I love it!!!! You guys see that??? I gave him the post number and he STILL refuses to speak about it..Common dude...Whatcha got to lose???




just post the damn thing again

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14 Aug 2009 03:22
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nevermind.


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Edited 14 Aug 2009 03:23 by ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth
[Quote] #85
14 Aug 2009 03:22
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pola wrote: Look im not using the word event like you guys are.

Yes a event is everything we do. But that is not the point i was trying to make and that is why i was using a less defined meaning. What i was saying is that we make a choice these choices are not predetermined. The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out. What is predetermined is a event made by god to help up keep on track or help us know that are choices we make are not always so good. These predetermined events made by god still have no affect on the choices you still choose to make or even affter.



Fail again....and here is why....again..geesh...

pola wrote: The choices/events in my life are not allready maped out.



Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


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[Quote] #86
14 Aug 2009 03:24
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ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


This. Explain the verse with what you believe.



Yeah everyday was laid out with gods guiding and influence to the path of heaven.

[Quote] #87
14 Aug 2009 03:25
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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


This. Explain the verse with what you believe.



Yeah everyday was laid out with gods guiding and influence to the path of heaven.


That’s not what the Bible is saying. :\


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[Quote] #88
14 Aug 2009 03:26
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pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


This. Explain the verse with what you believe.



Yeah everyday was laid out with gods guiding and influence to the path of heaven.


First...it doesn’t say that..
Second ...Are you actually trying to add words to an infallible book?


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[Quote] #89
14 Aug 2009 03:27
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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Goddamn people and the huge-ass quote boxes...>.> Sorry, I just had to point it out in the hopes that people would cut down. (really, can’t you just like, delete the other stuff and keep the one quoted message? Makes it more understandable and less lengthy)

Anyway...

Pola, this whole thing about Chibi “thinking about God a lot”...just, honestly, drop it. It isn’t something where you can say “zomg he thinks about God so he must secretly believe in God!"
You think about atheism so you must secretly be atheist. >.> See how stupid that is?
“Yes Ty that is a very stupid thing to say because I am not an atheist I am a christian. -nod nod-"
(side note: I just realized google spellcheck says that christian should be capitalized but lowercase atheism is fine. xD ANYWAY)
You’re basically pulling at straws, trying to make him out to be some secret christian thing. There’s not only no point in that, it really makes you out to be a bit/really disrespectful and assumptive, up to the point of people potentially calling you a prick.
Now I know this response is a LITTLE long, and will probably get lost in the quote-lengths (-side glance-) but I’d be a happy as hell dragon if you could pretty pwease stop trying to make Chibi look like what he isn’t. (and pretty much failing at that)

EDIT: Or better yet it’s going to go to the next page and nobody will even know this post exists. xD




dude i was messing with that guy. Im basicly being demanded by these guys to relpy to every post they make. Yeah givin the rush of post i have to keep up with i sort of have to type what ever comes to mind. Even if it look retarded but anyone being rushed like this would look stupid when everyone is against him.

[Quote] #90
14 Aug 2009 03:30
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riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


This. Explain the verse with what you believe.



Yeah everyday was laid out with gods guiding and influence to the path of heaven.


First...it doesn’t say that..
Second ...Are you actually trying to add words to an infallible book?



Well thats what it means or close to it. Dont know what to tell you. I gess im sorry it didnt mean what you want it to.

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14 Aug 2009 03:30
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Let me ask you pola(when you get time)...Does god know how people turn out in the end?


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[Quote] #92
14 Aug 2009 03:31
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pola wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Goddamn people and the huge-ass quote boxes...>.> Sorry, I just had to point it out in the hopes that people would cut down. (really, can’t you just like, delete the other stuff and keep the one quoted message? Makes it more understandable and less lengthy)

Anyway...

Pola, this whole thing about Chibi “thinking about God a lot”...just, honestly, drop it. It isn’t something where you can say “zomg he thinks about God so he must secretly believe in God!"
You think about atheism so you must secretly be atheist. >.> See how stupid that is?
“Yes Ty that is a very stupid thing to say because I am not an atheist I am a christian. -nod nod-"
(side note: I just realized google spellcheck says that christian should be capitalized but lowercase atheism is fine. xD ANYWAY)
You’re basically pulling at straws, trying to make him out to be some secret christian thing. There’s not only no point in that, it really makes you out to be a bit/really disrespectful and assumptive, up to the point of people potentially calling you a prick.
Now I know this response is a LITTLE long, and will probably get lost in the quote-lengths (-side glance-) but I’d be a happy as hell dragon if you could pretty pwease stop trying to make Chibi look like what he isn’t. (and pretty much failing at that)

EDIT: Or better yet it’s going to go to the next page and nobody will even know this post exists. xD




dude i was messing with that guy. Im basicly being demanded by these guys to relpy to every post they make. Yeah givin the rush of post i have to keep up with i sort of have to type what ever comes to mind. Even if it look retarded but anyone being rushed like this would look stupid when everyone is against him.


Perhaps you need to be more clear that you are joking next time and you should also get to know who you are messing with.(This isn’t meant to come off as a tough guy thing, more like a “You need to get to know me before you think I will see this or be cool with it” type thing)

See, one thing I dislike is people telling me what I believe and what I think and such.


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[Quote] #93
14 Aug 2009 03:32
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riptorn311 wrote: Let me ask you pola(when you get time)...Does god know how people turn out in the end?



In the end. Like end of that persons life??

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14 Aug 2009 03:33
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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

ChibiDiscoDhaosRebirth wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:
Ps 139: 15-16
15. You watched me as I wa being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was laid out before a single day had passed.


This. Explain the verse with what you believe.



Yeah everyday was laid out with gods guiding and influence to the path of heaven.


First...it doesn’t say that..
Second ...Are you actually trying to add words to an infallible book?



Well thats what it means to me or close to it . Dont know what to tell you. I gess im sorry it didnt mean what you want it to.


Fixed...Perception is 90 % of religion pola...Perception is not truth pola...


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14 Aug 2009 03:33
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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Let me ask you pola(when you get time)...Does god know how people turn out in the end?



In the end. Like end of that persons life??


yes


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[Quote] #96
14 Aug 2009 03:35
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pola wrote: dude i was messing with that guy. Im basicly being demanded by these guys to relpy to every post they make. Yeah givin the rush of post i have to keep up with i sort of have to type what ever comes to mind. Even if it look retarded but anyone being rushed like this would look stupid when everyone is against him.



Well I can offer two solutions:
1. Respond slowly and with care. You’re making sidetracked posts such as this, which will make people frustrated because it makes you out to be like you aren’t caring or have just ignored it. It’s a forum, not instant messaging, you CAN take your time replying and whatnot. If you reply to messages in order and don’t deviate from that order people will, most likely, understand you ARE replying, it just takes time.

2. You can leave. Do as you said before, not bother with this, just believe in God and live your life. I’m being dead serious; nobody has forced you here, nor has forced you to post, nor are you restricted to one part of the site.

Either way, posting one response and then skipping a few other posts directed at you and posting a response to THAT will make you look like you’re ignoring the other parts.


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[Quote] #97
14 Aug 2009 03:39
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riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Let me ask you pola(when you get time)...Does god know how people turn out in the end?



In the end. Like end of that persons life??


yes




I would say yes and no. While some people make drastic changes in thier life and even pull a 180. Some stay the exact same either good or bad. Staying how we are is up to us. I woulnt say god knows but i wouldnt say god doenst.
Lets say this. If it is possible to travel into the future then everything that we have ever done has already happend. And god would know how we trun out since we would just be reinacting everything we have already done before.

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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Let me ask you pola(when you get time)...Does god know how people turn out in the end?



In the end. Like end of that persons life??


yes




I would say yes and no. While some people make drastic changes in thier life and even pull a 180. Some stay the exact same either good or bad. Staying how we are is up to us. I woulnt say god knows but i wouldnt say god doenst.
Lets say this. If it is possible to travel into the future then everything that we have ever done has already happend. And god would know how we trun out since we would just be reinacting everything we have already done before.


But he is supposed to be the Alpha and the Omega and omniscient.


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pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

pola wrote:

riptorn311 wrote: Let me ask you pola(when you get time)...Does god know how people turn out in the end?



In the end. Like end of that persons life??


yes




I would say yes and no. While some people make drastic changes in thier life and even pull a 180. Some stay the exact same either good or bad. Staying how we are is up to us. I woulnt say god knows but i wouldnt say god doenst.
Lets say this. If it is possible to travel into the future then everything that we have ever done has already happend. And god would know how we trun out since we would just be reinacting everything we have already done before.


Thank you...so if god knows..“we would just be reinacting everything we have already done before” thats predestination...And if the answer is no then he cannot be called god because of the lack of omniscience....See that???


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Edited 14 Aug 2009 03:46 by Sleazy P. Martini
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14 Aug 2009 03:51
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If it’s possible to travel to the future things would only have happened in a scenario where we weren’t there...lol
As for other people, there’s also the thing on alternate timelines, which would especially be true since you weren’t there in between the time you left the “present” and arrived into the “future." Different things happen when circumstances are changed after all.

EDIT: lolshit, see, end of the fucking page AGAIN. xD


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Edited 14 Aug 2009 03:52 by Tyreaus Dreacon

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