Today I used my right not to stand for the pledge of Allegiance in class. My history teacher got a bit mad, and was like “People died so you can have all these freedoms, and gave you the right to do that." and I responded by “That’s right and I’m asserting that right." and he goes “Not in this class."
So my question is, can a teacher’s classroom guidelines outweigh said rights? Just curious.
I felt like it. lol. Do I have to have a reason to not stand for a meaningless pledge? The reason I say it’s meaningless is that no one even cares anymore, it’s something you say everyday. It’s become so routine it has lost it’s touch. Then there is the fact that hardly any one says it any more. So that’s the reason why I don’t want to stand. It’s meaningless to today. It’s not that I don’t respect the country and all, but it just seems rather pointless.
Dude, I can understand..I’m from podunk southern ohio and it is VERY conservative here..But no a teacher really can’t make you stand. Now believe me im all against conformaty, but as you said it doesnt really matter. If it doesn’t really matter then is it worth fighting over to exercise your right to not stand? Like if he’s gonna give you detention or something for not standing, is it worth the effort to fight about it w/ the principal(who will probably take the teacher’s side).
--- "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
Trogdor_the_Burninator wrote:
Yes, they can. We have freedom of speech, and yet you can get suspended for excessive swearing.
It’s no secret that constitutional rights can be ignored in a school setting. Probable cause is not required for search/seizure by an employee. You CAN be made to testify against yourself and can face punishment for failure to do so. The list goes on.