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28 May 2009 04:59 pm
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Today I used my right not to stand for the pledge of Allegiance in class. My history teacher got a bit mad, and was like “People died so you can have all these freedoms, and gave you the right to do that." and I responded by “That’s right and I’m asserting that right." and he goes “Not in this class."

So my question is, can a teacher’s classroom guidelines outweigh said rights? Just curious.


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It’s your freedom. You should be allowed to sit during the pledge of allegiance. Can I ask “why”?


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I felt like it. lol. Do I have to have a reason to not stand for a meaningless pledge? The reason I say it’s meaningless is that no one even cares anymore, it’s something you say everyday. It’s become so routine it has lost it’s touch. Then there is the fact that hardly any one says it any more. So that’s the reason why I don’t want to stand. It’s meaningless to today. It’s not that I don’t respect the country and all, but it just seems rather pointless.


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Point well taken! And no you don’t need a reason. smiley


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They don’t care if we did the pledge at the high school I went to.


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some one new wrote: They don’t care if we did the pledge at the high school I went to.


Well, I think my teacher only cares because of the fact his sons are part of the army or some kind of branch. Not sure.


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Indalecio wrote:

some one new wrote: They don’t care if we did the pledge at the high school I went to.


Well, I think my teacher only cares because of the fact his sons are part of the army or some kind of branch. Not sure.


Where do you live? Is your school really conservative?


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some one new wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

some one new wrote: They don’t care if we did the pledge at the high school I went to.


Well, I think my teacher only cares because of the fact his sons are part of the army or some kind of branch. Not sure.


Where do you live? Is your school really conservative?


I live in West Virginia, I think that’s in the outer part of the Bible belt.


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Indalecio wrote:

some one new wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

some one new wrote: They don’t care if we did the pledge at the high school I went to.


Well, I think my teacher only cares because of the fact his sons are part of the army or some kind of branch. Not sure.


Where do you live? Is your school really conservative?


I live in West Virginia, I think that’s in the outer part of the Bible belt.


I live in what they call “a blue berry in a bowl of tomato soup”.


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some one new wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

some one new wrote:

Indalecio wrote:

some one new wrote: They don’t care if we did the pledge at the high school I went to.


Well, I think my teacher only cares because of the fact his sons are part of the army or some kind of branch. Not sure.


Where do you live? Is your school really conservative?


I live in West Virginia, I think that’s in the outer part of the Bible belt.


I live in what they call “a blue berry in a bowl of tomato soup”.


lol. Well my teacher is very conservitive.


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Dude, I can understand..I’m from podunk southern ohio and it is VERY conservative here..But no a teacher really can’t make you stand. Now believe me im all against conformaty, but as you said it doesnt really matter. If it doesn’t really matter then is it worth fighting over to exercise your right to not stand? Like if he’s gonna give you detention or something for not standing, is it worth the effort to fight about it w/ the principal(who will probably take the teacher’s side).


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They can make you do it if they want. Classrooms have there own rules.

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Yes, they can. We have freedom of speech, and yet you can get suspended for excessive swearing.


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School rules=/=National rules

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The Gym Teachers don’t care if I don’t say the Pledge.The other teachers do though.


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Trogdor_the_Burninator wrote: Yes, they can. We have freedom of speech, and yet you can get suspended for excessive swearing.



It’s no secret that constitutional rights can be ignored in a school setting. Probable cause is not required for search/seizure by an employee. You CAN be made to testify against yourself and can face punishment for failure to do so. The list goes on.

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Basically,the Schools Contradict’s most of the 15 Amendments.


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King Boo wrote: They can make you do it if they want. Classrooms have there own rules.


National rules>>>>School rules>>>>>>Class room rules.

ALWAYS.


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Indalecio wrote:

King Boo wrote: They can make you do it if they want. Classrooms have there own rules.


National rules>>>>School rules>>>>>>Class room rules.

ALWAYS.



I’m afraid that’s not the reality.

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Geass wrote: Basically,the Schools Contradict’s most of the 15 Amendments.



How so?


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