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Personally, I really don’t see the point in homework. All you’re doing is going over the exact same stuff you went over at school. It’s basically school at home.

You look forward to the last bell of the day at school and when it rings you can go home. But right when you get home, you have to worry about homework. School at school and school at home. No free time.

I don’t know what kind of school you go to, but at my school I have to work on homework at LEAST 2 and a half hours at night.

Those of you who like homework, give me a reason to believe that homework has a point.


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Well, Maybe you should try to do the work you have in class when they give you time instead of talking to your friends or wasting time. I go to one of the best schools in my state(Actually, Two students from my school are state student body president and vice president from what I am told)

Anyway, it’s not that bad :\


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homework’s important because it helps you remember what you did in class. it’s been proven that the best way one learns is through repetition. if you go over something a whole bunch of times, you will know it better.

for example, with something like math, you can learn a concept in class and do a few questions with your teacher’s assistance once or twice. however, if you want to learn how to do similar problems, it’s important that do many questions revolving around the same concept so you fully understand how the concept works and that come test time, you can do similar problems with no hesitation.


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Indalecio wrote: Well, Maybe you should try to do the work you have in class when they give you time instead of talking to your friends or wasting time. I go to one of the best schools in my state(Actually, Two students from my school are state student body president and vice president from what I am told)

Anyway, it’s not that bad :\


I do.


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Black Cat wrote:

Indalecio wrote: Well, Maybe you should try to do the work you have in class when they give you time instead of talking to your friends or wasting time. I go to one of the best schools in my state(Actually, Two students from my school are state student body president and vice president from what I am told)

Anyway, it’s not that bad :\


I do.


Do you ask if the teacher can help you? Is that the problem? If you know how to do it and it’s easy, then don’t complain. Anyway, Juicelayer also brings up a good point.


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JuiceLayer wrote: homework’s important because it helps you remember what you did in class. it’s been proven that the best way one learns is through repetition. if you go over something a whole bunch of times, you will know it better.

for example, with something like math, you can learn a concept in class and do a few questions with your teacher’s assistance once or twice. however, if you want to learn how to do similar problems, it’s important that do many questions revolving around the same concept so you fully understand how the concept works and that come test time, you can do similar problems with no hesitation.


Yeah... I guess. Well, with my homework I don’t think it’s the homework that I have a huge problem with, it’s that, with math homework for example, we have so many problems to do. I think that if we didn’t have so many problems to do, I wouldn’t mind it so much.


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There’s one thing I specifically hate about a lot of homework I get, especially in math:
The first few questions are easy, since they serve as sort of an “introduction”. The last questions, however, are hard as hell. At that point, I am at home and in need of help as it is due the next day, because our teacher does not give us enough time to do it all in class. (why it’s called homework and that makes sense)
What makes it worse is that, that is just my predicament. I can mostly figure those questions out with enough head scratching, but I know a lot of students wouldn’t be able to.
THAT is why homework makes no sense. It’s not like our parents are excellent mathematicians. I know my father isn’t. Course I don’t know if it’s that way anywhere else.


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Black Cat wrote: Personally, I really don’t see the point in homework. All you’re doing is going over the exact same stuff you went over at school. It’s basically school at home.

You look forward to the last bell of the day at school and when it rings you can go home. But right when you get home, you have to worry about homework. School at school and school at home. No free time.

I don’t know what kind of school you go to, but at my school I have to work on homework at LEAST 2 and a half hours at night.

Those of you who like homework, give me a reason to believe that homework has a point.


ITS FOR PRACTICE ...but i h8 it 2

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Black Cat wrote: Personally, I really don’t see the point in homework. All you’re doing is going over the exact same stuff you went over at school. It’s basically school at home.

You look forward to the last bell of the day at school and when it rings you can go home. But right when you get home, you have to worry about homework. School at school and school at home. No free time.

I don’t know what kind of school you go to, but at my school I have to work on homework at LEAST 2 and a half hours at night.

Those of you who like homework, give me a reason to believe that homework has a point.



To test your mind and your education at home.


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So that you won’t forget what you learned at school. How old are you, again? 12? You’ll understand as you get older.


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Tha point is, to stop yall from trippin.


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This is exactly why other countries call us stupid.


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Homework makes sure your lessons stick in your head after you leave the class.
We should adopt the Japanese schooling system. Then maybe our student’s standards would catch up with Germany and East Asia...


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Shaun of the Living wrote: We should adopt the Japanese schooling system.



Don’t go weaboo on us. We should just discipline our children again. Which is what all other countries do and why there so obedient.


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D.W. wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote: We should adopt the Japanese schooling system.



Don’t go weaboo on us. We should just discipline our children again. Which is what all other countries do and why there so obedient.



I’m not a weeaboo, it’s just extremely efficient. It doesn’t have to be Japanese, Finland and Germany would do well too, Japan was just the first country that came to mind.

But what they all have in common is that they’re stricter and more performance based, and they all produce good results.


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Hi how are you ^^?

Well I am going to be 100% honest and try to give you my point of view.

First I would say it depends...

For example Maths....
Like any sport you practice if you practice Maths you are goin to improve your skills.

Yea I know it is annoying and sometimes one would prefer to do other stuff than wondering what is the
result of log x^pi.
As well there is some stuff that probably you are not going to use again in your life.

But also I most say that if you improve your general skills in maths, this is going to be very useful in your daily life.
Maths can be very useful even for a lawyer.

Maths in general improve a lot the speed of your mind.

The big problem is when Teachers only help you or give you easy examples and they want you to answer harder problems that you never saw during class(like Ty said). An example they tell you that x plus x = 2X but they do not tell you how to solve a case like log2^x/sec x
Some times there are teachers that even tell you “Use logic and you will find the answer”.... and you think Cooool, but I already tried logic and I do not have idea what to do.The same goes for chemistry and physics.

In the case of physics well at least in my case was that the teacher asked very stupid projects and works.... the kind of works that you probably end needing some help of the fathers lol. For example if you are going to be a psychologist how the hell is going to help you making a damn big scale catapult? Or an Hydraulic Jack that can hold one quarter of ton???

Now lets talk about other homeworks.
Reading and making summaries can be useful because it is going to help you to understand better a text and by that way you can learn more, in less time and in a more efficient way. This is great because you are going to be able to save a lot of time and your knowledge is going to be “more permanent” < — - I mean you are not going to forget what you studied one day after the exam, probably you are going to forget it after some years. This is the good thing about reading and making summaries.

BUT, the problem is when teachers want you to read the most boring stories and make tons and tons of summaries in few days....
And because of this you are going to read super fast and probably you are not going to understand well the story of the book or miss something and your summary is not going to be so cool because you just want to end it just in time.
^Because of this you do not learn how to read properly and your writting skills do not improve at all.
So probably here in this case, theachers have the fault and not the homework at all.

I love reading but I hate when the teachers ask you to read boring books,like the ones that in one million words they only tell you that the guy was sad because he lost his puppy. For example I liked Hamlet, but it is true that you read many lines only to know that Hamlet wanted to revenge the death of his father. He could have just said “I will kill the damn guy who killed my father”, but he gives all a complete and long poetic speech. Well in this case it was ok for me because it is poetry... but there are other old stories that teachers ask you to read and are really boring and sometimes even hard to understand.

Teachers should let you read any book. So you can read what you want, fantasy, science fiction, magic, drama, love, war or whatever you like. By this way one could enjoy more a literature class.

Now what about History and Geography?
It is very important to have some general culture BUT:
1) It is useless to know that the 27 octuber of 1890 the USA president was using a white pajamas or that the 4 of Juli USA president ate 3 burritos.
2) It is useless to try to learn that at random number of degrees to the north and random number of degrees to the south is Botswana. It is also useless to learn all the rivers and lakes of the world. Maybe knowing the important rivers for a talk can be nice, but few people is going to care if you know where to find Dnepr river(Rusia). Or not many people is going to care that in X country there are Y number of people or Z number of minerals. Also few people is going to care if you know all sea ports of your country and stuff like that.

I also hate when the geography teacher ask you to draw a map.... Then why the hell we have geography books with maps? The worse is that probably the weather map you drawed has some mistakes and is missing some details of the original map... so you are not learning well at all.

^What I mean is that sometimes teachers want you to learn.... very useless stuff that you will easily forget after some days.
The horrible part here is that you lose a lot of time making maps and trying to learn all the names and dates, you learn them for the exam and there is a 90% of chance that you forget a lot of what you learned.Making all that hard time of work useless.

Going to museums or having some school trips can be cool. But out of that, in my own experience the way teachers taught me a history and geography was horrible and what I know was not exactly thanks to their class and homewokrs.


Now that I think it better, the problem is not only in homeworks... it is more about a general educational problem.
If you do not like history, geography, maths or whatever you will never learn perfectly that subject. You can study for ages maths or history but if you really hate them you will easily forget what you studied.
But if you study only thins that you like everything is going to be easier and even funny for you.
The ideal probably would be that for example if you like maths :
You only go to a school where maths, literature(sorry but literature is something basic and necessary), physics and chemistry are official academic subjects.

While history, geography, biology or others, would not be valid or part of your academic record. You will have class of those subjects too, but you won’t have homeworks or exams of those signatures. In other words they would be subjects that would not affect you and is only up to you if you want to learn and have some culture.

The problem here is that for many kids is hard to find their vocation and to understand what they really want or like, so it is not something very possible.

I think that maybe the educational system needs some changes.
Maybe it is a crazy idea. What do you think?

I hope I helped you with my opinion. good luck ^^


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Shaun of the Living wrote: Homework makes sure your lessons stick in your head after you leave the class.
We should adopt the Japanese schooling system. Then maybe our student’s standards would catch up with Germany and East Asia...


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The MASK wrote: This is exactly why other countries call us stupid.


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Mike8UN wrote: Hi how are you ^^?

Well I am going to be 100% honest and try to give you my point of view.

First I would say it depends...

For example Maths....
Like any sport you practice if you practice Maths you are goin to improve your skills.

Yea I know it is annoying and sometimes one would prefer to do other stuff than wondering what is the
result of log x^pi.
As well there is some stuff that probably you are not going to use again in your life.

But also I most say that if you improve your general skills in maths, this is going to be very useful in your daily life.
Maths can be very useful even for a lawyer.

Maths in general improve a lot the speed of your mind.

The big problem is when Teachers only help you or give you easy examples and they want you to answer harder problems that you never saw during class(like Ty said). An example they tell you that x plus x = 2X but they do not tell you how to solve a case like log2^x/sec x
Some times there are teachers that even tell you “Use logic and you will find the answer”.... and you think Cooool, but I already tried logic and I do not have idea what to do.The same goes for chemistry and physics.

In the case of physics well at least in my case was that the teacher asked very stupid projects and works.... the kind of works that you probably end needing some help of the fathers lol. For example if you are going to be a psychologist how the hell is going to help you making a damn big scale catapult? Or an Hydraulic Jack that can hold one quarter of ton???

Now lets talk about other homeworks.
Reading and making summaries can be useful because it is going to help you to understand better a text and by that way you can learn more, in less time and in a more efficient way. This is great because you are going to be able to save a lot of time and your knowledge is going to be “more permanent” < — - I mean you are not going to forget what you studied one day after the exam, probably you are going to forget it after some years. This is the good thing about reading and making summaries.

BUT, the problem is when teachers want you to read the most boring stories and make tons and tons of summaries in few days....
And because of this you are going to read super fast and probably you are not going to understand well the story of the book or miss something and your summary is not going to be so cool because you just want to end it just in time.
^Because of this you do not learn how to read properly and your writting skills do not improve at all.
So probably here in this case, theachers have the fault and not the homework at all.

I love reading but I hate when the teachers ask you to read boring books,like the ones that in one million words they only tell you that the guy was sad because he lost his puppy. For example I liked Hamlet, but it is true that you read many lines only to know that Hamlet wanted to revenge the death of his father. He could have just said “I will kill the damn guy who killed my father”, but he gives all a complete and long poetic speech. Well in this case it was ok for me because it is poetry... but there are other old stories that teachers ask you to read and are really boring and sometimes even hard to understand.

Teachers should let you read any book. So you can read what you want, fantasy, science fiction, magic, drama, love, war or whatever you like. By this way one could enjoy more a literature class.

Now what about History and Geography?
It is very important to have some general culture BUT:
1) It is useless to know that the 27 octuber of 1890 the USA president was using a white pajamas or that the 4 of Juli USA president ate 3 burritos.
2) It is useless to try to learn that at random number of degrees to the north and random number of degrees to the south is Botswana. It is also useless to learn all the rivers and lakes of the world. Maybe knowing the important rivers for a talk can be nice, but few people is going to care if you know where to find Dnepr river(Rusia). Or not many people is going to care that in X country there are Y number of people or Z number of minerals. Also few people is going to care if you know all sea ports of your country and stuff like that.

I also hate when the geography teacher ask you to draw a map.... Then why the hell we have geography books with maps? The worse is that probably the weather map you drawed has some mistakes and is missing some details of the original map... so you are not learning well at all.

^What I mean is that sometimes teachers want you to learn.... very useless stuff that you will easily forget after some days.
The horrible part here is that you lose a lot of time making maps and trying to learn all the names and dates, you learn them for the exam and there is a 90% of chance that you forget a lot of what you learned.Making all that hard time of work useless.

Going to museums or having some school trips can be cool. But out of that, in my own experience the way teachers taught me a history and geography was horrible and what I know was not exactly thanks to their class and homewokrs.


Now that I think it better, the problem is not only in homeworks... it is more about a general educational problem.
If you do not like history, geography, maths or whatever you will never learn perfectly that subject. You can study for ages maths or history but if you really hate them you will easily forget what you studied.
But if you study only thins that you like everything is going to be easier and even funny for you.
The ideal probably would be that for example if you like maths :
You only go to a school where maths, literature(sorry but literature is something basic and necessary), physics and chemistry are official academic subjects.

While history, geography, biology or others, would not be valid or part of your academic record. You will have class of those subjects too, but you won’t have homeworks or exams of those signatures. In other words they would be subjects that would not affect you and is only up to you if you want to learn and have some culture.

The problem here is that for many kids is hard to find their vocation and to understand what they really want or like, so it is not something very possible.

I think that maybe the educational system needs some changes.
Maybe it is a crazy idea. What do you think?

I hope I helped you with my opinion. good luck ^^


glare. But I don’t feel like reading all of that... lol.


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