Omni-Man wrote:
Shaun of the Living wrote:
Astro wrote:
God could have made a perfect adam immune to all sin but once again there would be no free will no choice to love god no real authentic relationship and things that are perfect can go unperfect because there not impeckable, which is beyond sin its not even in there system
But free will doesn’t really exist, every action we take is just what we think will give us the most pleasure or avoid the most pain. Give me one example of an action that is not an attempt at boosting one’s own wellbeing (directly or indirectly)
Hunger strikes, for one.
You’re wrong because you’re not taking into consideration of how humans use cost-benefit analysis. A hunger strike gives one suffering by making them hungry, but the person who goes on a hunger strike does it because he feels it’s for an important reason. Doing something for what is considered an important reason makes the person going on a hunger strike feel like they’re doing something that matters. This good feeling is the reason they go on hunger strike in the first place, because they think the feeling they will get from doing something that makes a difference will be more pleasurable than the pain suffered from starving themselves. It’s the same with every deliberate action. Ever. The problem when arguing about things like this is that people forget that a good feeling or false expectation of good karma can be just as much of a reward psychological as more primal pleasures are physically; like food, sex, sleep, comfort etc. People get pleasure from helping others or they wouldn’t do it.