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#21
14 Oct 2009 04:38 pm
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All those numbers are cute and such, but Nappa beats out a nuke with two fingers and a lol.


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pal we are underestimating nuke power level

dbz episode 22
Minute 2:11 to minute 2:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K58sdhgOWUM&feature=related

That was city buster power level
Hiroshima was stronger than this.

If you saw the picture you will realize that
Hiroshima has nothing to do with modern nuclear bombs.


And KI is >>>>>physical body.



And KI is not equal heat ( it should be but in dragonball KI has nothing to do with heat)

Goku ssj4 had trouble with 6000ºC

It is not my fault it was the decission of Toe Animation Studios and even Toriyama.

But we also know that
Anime is >>>manga

And anime has plotholes.


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Hmmm, interesting, a bomb far less devastating than Nappa’s attack is, somehow, more powerful.

How does that work?


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Nappa’s attack far outweighs Hiroshima. Moon buster far outweighs all the nukes on this planet combined. Saiyan saga Piccolo, pre Nappa destroyed the moon casually. Nappa>>>>>>>>>>Piccolo.
So really, a nukes level of power is not being underestimated.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Hmmm, interesting, a bomb far less devastating than Nappa’s attack is, somehow, more powerful.

How does that work?




Well now that I think it there is no info that tells which city is bigger if the city that Nappa destroyed or Hiroshima.
So lets say that Maybe Nappas attack was stronger than Hiroshima.

Hiroshima is less than a dot compared to modern nuclear bombs.


Ok the manga says that the city was destroyed... but not a country.

I agree that moon buster is more than all nukes on this planet.

But still we can not ignore the fact that Goku ssj4 had trouble with 6000ºC


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Maybe Nappa’s attack was stronger?

Thousands upon thousands of people survived Hiroshima and buildings actually remained upright/somewhat intact.

NOBODY survived Nappa’s attack, there was no evidence that there even was a city in the first place, and the explosion reached out to space.

Nappa’s attack was significantly more powerful.


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Mike8UN wrote:

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Hmmm, interesting, a bomb far less devastating than Nappa’s attack is, somehow, more powerful.

How does that work?




Well now that I think it there is no info that tells which city is bigger if the city that Nappa destroyed or Hiroshima.
So lets say that Maybe Nappas attack was stronger than Hiroshima.

Hiroshima is less than a dot compared to modern nuclear bombs.


Ok the manga says that the city was destroyed... but not a country.

I agree that moon buster is more than all nukes on this planet.

But still we can not ignore the fact that Goku ssj4 had trouble with 6000ºC


SSJ4 Goku is non canon and has nothing to do with this debate, regardless, I hope you realize 6000 degrees C, is as hot as the sun.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Maybe Nappa’s attack was stronger?

Thousands upon thousands of people survived Hiroshima and buildings actually remained upright/somewhat intact.

NOBODY survived Nappa’s attack, there was no evidence that there even was a city in the first place, and the explosion reached out to space.

Nappa’s attack was significantly more powerful.



Ok Nappa’s attack>> hiroshima but actually they said something about EAST CITY.

Anyway remember Buu?

His skin was easily wounded even by bullets.

But it was not relevant because he had super fast regenerartion.

If buu was difficult to kill but his skin was bullet level resistance
Imagine a guy who has hundreds of nuke level shields that regenerate even faster than Buu and his body has even greater resistance.


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Indalecio wrote:

Mike8UN wrote:

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Hmmm, interesting, a bomb far less devastating than Nappa’s attack is, somehow, more powerful.

How does that work?




Well now that I think it there is no info that tells which city is bigger if the city that Nappa destroyed or Hiroshima.
So lets say that Maybe Nappas attack was stronger than Hiroshima.

Hiroshima is less than a dot compared to modern nuclear bombs.


Ok the manga says that the city was destroyed... but not a country.

I agree that moon buster is more than all nukes on this planet.

But still we can not ignore the fact that Goku ssj4 had trouble with 6000ºC


SSJ4 Goku is non canon and has nothing to do with this debate, regardless, I hope you realize 6000 degrees C, is as hot as the sun.



I know that is hot as sun (surface, core is hotter) read my posts of the first page.


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Pals.... I think you most read this

“After WWII the US did a study and calculated it would take 10 Megatons (400 Hiroshima-size bombs) to destroy the US. There are now tens of thousands of bombs of 10 Megatons.
There is NO LIMIT to the size of a Hydrogen (Fusion) bomb. The Russians tested a bomb of 50 Megatons that had been “reduced” from a 100 Megaton bomb.
Many bombs of smaller size are more effective at destroying wider areas, so we can surmise a few thousand 1-Megaton bombs would be more than enough.
What madness....
7, one for each contintent."

Superman Survived an explosion that was = to 1 million nuclear bombs

And DS with one finger in his base form stopped easily a nuclear level punch.
WIth judas Pain he is millions of times stronger so you could say that at least
With one finger he coulds stop the force of 1million nuclear bombs.


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Tsar Bomb was 50 megatons. So cool.


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Damn... humans create some crazy and unnecessary stuff.


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Having hundreds of nuke level shields really doesn’t mean anything to someone like Frieza. Who could instantly crush them with a single deathball.

In fact, I’d say if Frieza pointed his finger at Schneider it shatter his shields and destroy whatever part of his body connects with.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Having hundreds of nuke level shields really doesn’t mean anything to someone like Frieza. Who could instantly crush them with a single deathball.

In fact, I’d say if Frieza pointed his finger at Schneider it shatter his shields and destroy whatever part of his body connects with.




Ok lets say that would happen as I said Buu’s skin was bullet resistance.
But even if it was “easy to wound him” it was a hell of trouble to kill him.
And DS has shields that have faster regeneration than Buu and his shields are more resistant than the body of buu, plus he is strong enought to stop easily with one finger the force of 1 million nuclear bombs.


Ok I buy you the idea that goku can destroy all the shields of Schneider in one blast. But the body of Schneider is far much stronger than the shields.

And he defeated a multigalaxy buste level. And DS is immortal unless you destroy his body, soul and body at exactly the same time.


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Some of his shields are not in the same dimention iirc. Goku couldn’t destroy all his shields.


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Indalecio wrote: Some of his shields are not in the same dimention iirc. Goku couldn’t destroy all his shields.




Exactly thanks T-T you rule man.


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I honestly don’t see the big deal about Dark Schneider.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: I honestly don’t see the big deal about Dark Schneider.


He gets more women in 1 hour than a male porn star gets in his life. That’s what the big deal is. Plus he is broken with his dispell bound.


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Indalecio wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I honestly don’t see the big deal about Dark Schneider.


He gets more women in 1 hour than a male porn star gets in his life. That’s what the big deal is. Plus he is broken with his dispell bound.

Huh.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: I honestly don’t see the big deal about Dark Schneider.



Pal judas Pain by itself has the power to destroy the galaxy if i am not wrong it is reality by itself too.

DS who is already very powerful uses the judas pain...
DS is immortal

And DS can use the Dragon Knight lucifer who is much much much stronger than the Majin Dark Schneider (who uses the judas pain).

Defeated a multigalaxy buster level guy
In his weakest days he was capable of using an spell that produced a temperature around the 20,000 ºC (hotter than Sun surface)
And judas pain increases all powers by millions.


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