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and just because someone knows martials arts means they can beat someone up
people that don’t know martial arts have easily taken down martial artists single handedly
and plus Goku is way faster and stronger than batman without going super sayain
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actually
as for gadgets batman probably has the advantage but hand to hand he’d get owned
MC’s not big on gadgets.
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he doesn’t need em
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and just because someone knows martials arts means they can beat someone up
people that don’t know martial arts have easily taken down martial artists single handedly
and plus Goku is way faster and stronger than batman without going super sayain
Okay yet again I’m saying that if they fought with no gadgets no powers(basically lets pretend Goku loses his powers and is a normal human like Batman), then Batman’s martial arts is superior as well as his intelluct.
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he doesn’t need em
Well thats true. He does fine without em.
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and just because someone knows martials arts means they can beat someone up
people that don’t know martial arts have easily taken down martial artists single handedly
and plus Goku is way faster and stronger than batman without going super sayain
Okay yet again I’m saying that if they fought with no gadgets no powers(basically lets pretend Goku loses his powers and is a normal human like Batman), then Batman’s martial arts is superior as well as his intelluct.
i get ur point, he better in martial arts against average human beings
yet, Goku ain’t average and martial arts is’t the only thing that wins a fight
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strength, speed, mind and so on can easily surpass martial arts
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From what I remember a blast killed Freeza.
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and it can kill Batman no problem
poor Batman
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Poor Batman. He’s the weakest superhero.
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Huh, I understand what your saying that Goku would beat Batman if he fought him. Thats why to help you get what I’m saying imagine that Goku was a normal human. He is completely normal and can only use his martial arts skills against Batman. Like you said it takes strength,speed, and mind to surpass martial arts. Well pretend they are fighting with equal speed and strength, now I’m sure everyone remembers Goku ain’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. Batman is the close to being a perfect human and his smartness is high above Gokus so he wins. But enough of this how about we get back on topic.
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yes, but that’s not Goku
anyways i still stand by Goku
bye bye Superman
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Could you tell me why you stand by Goku please?
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because i think he would win
but i like Superman better
partly because he can fly faster but if u wanna get all teh details just look at the past 8 or so pages
because there’s too much stuff to repost
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Wait partly because Goku or Superman can fly faster? Because current Superman flys close to the speed of light and if angered can even exceed it, Goku on the other hand isn’t anywhere close. The reason is because if he moved at the speed of light he wouldn’t need IT and he would have been able to save his family when kidbuu fired that blast and blew up the planet.
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yeah, because he flies faster
plus i like red and blue
plus Lois Lane
and he’s Superman
as for Goku he cant' fly as fast but he can do his teleportation thingy in battle and is faster when it comes to punching and kicking, combat stuff
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Maybe for weak cartoon Superman but not for comic Superman who can punch at the speed of light.
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By Ssj2-3 Goku can easily surpass the speed of light. While returning from snakeway Goku was travelling at mach 17.
By transforming to Ssj3, he grown more than a million times stronger than his base from when he was on the snakeway.
And without a single doubt, anyone who’s watched DBZ know’s Goku’s brute, physical, mental, and spiritual energy. He will crush Superman without even trying.
Doomsday is nothing compared to even Tien at the end of Dragonball! Please, i’ve read JLA a least the whole Doomsday scenario.
However, i still think toriyami hasnt given much details on the eaxct speed and strength of Goku. Goku lifting 40ton thing was mean for comidic reasons and its horribly inaccurate. Goku was lifting 7 tons on 1 finger 1000 times when travelling to Namek on his spaceship.
So no, 40ton thing can’t be taken as measurement for Goku’s strength.
Coming back to the supes vs goku, its upto what you want to believe. like i said before toriyami hasn’t provided enough info on goku real strength and speed and so its almost impossbile then to pair him up in crossover fights.
There will always be doublee sided arguments on sues vs goku and its of no use really.
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By Ssj2-3 Goku can easily surpass the speed of light. While returning from snakeway Goku was travelling at mach 17.
By transforming to Ssj3, he grown more than a million times stronger than his base from when he was on the snakeway.
And without a single doubt, anyone who’s watched DBZ know’s Goku’s brute, physical, mental, and spiritual energy. He will crush Superman without even trying.
Doomsday is nothing compared to even Tien at the end of Dragonball! Please, i’ve read JLA a least the whole Doomsday scenario.
However, i still think toriyami hasnt given much details on the eaxct speed and strength of Goku. Goku lifting 40ton thing was mean for comidic reasons and its horribly inaccurate. Goku was lifting 7 tons on 1 finger 1000 times when travelling to Namek on his spaceship.
So no, 40ton thing can’t be taken as measurement for Goku’s strength.
Coming back to the supes vs goku, its upto what you want to believe. like i said before toriyami hasn’t provided enough info on goku real strength and speed and so its almost impossbile then to pair him up in crossover fights.
There will always be doublee sided arguments on sues vs goku and its of no use really.
If Goku could travel at the speed of light his sons and friends wouldn’t have died when Kid Buu threw that slow ass energy ball at them. You are another one of those people who overestimates DBZ. Gokus physical strength us nothing compared to superman, who moved the moon. You really must be joking? Doomsday is above all the Z fighters even at the end of DBZ. Your right about the no strength measure but since no actual strength measure has been given everyone who supports DBZ is probably just going to assume its higher than Supermans.
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