maybe showing what Jeanne does to raise her mana will help him realize how high hao’s mana is...
cause even with all of her training, she is only still a small fraction of hao’s strength...
show her first battle in the shaman fight too
where she used all of her torture devices to kill those guys in no time flat in the most gruesome way possible...
Archangel Azrael wrote:
maybe showing what Jeanne does to raise her mana will help him realize how high hao’s mana is...
cause even with all of her training, she is only still a small fraction of hao’s strength...
show her first battle in the shaman fight too
where she used all of her torture devices to kill those guys in no time flat in the most gruesome way possible...
Archangel Azrael wrote:
maybe showing what Jeanne does to raise her mana will help him realize how high hao’s mana is...
cause even with all of her training, she is only still a small fraction of hao’s strength...
show her first battle in the shaman fight too
where she used all of her torture devices to kill those guys in no time flat in the most gruesome way possible...
Do you know what chapter that is?
im pretty sure its mid hundreds... maybe around 120-130 or something...
ya
and thats why Lady Jeanne, the Iron Maiden, is my 3rd favorite in the series..
she lives in an iron maiden!!!
underwater!!!
she tortures herself 24/7
There outside the bogus LS claim I matched your feats. The only thing different is that the speed feats are Ichigo, unlike the Hao feat which is a masked man >.>
And all in the first 50 chapters
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There outside the bogus LS claim I matched your feats. The only thing different is that the speed feats are Ichigo, unlike the Hao feat which is a masked man >.>
And all in the first 50 chapters
You havn’t matched the Hao feats AT ALL. lol. The last one was the closest the other ones were largly unimpressive when compared to what I showed.
Chaos Theory wrote:
No, my scans were just as impressive as the ones you showed. And all before they entered the Soul Society.
lul what? You’re kidding right? Those scans are not even close to what Hao did. Luchist showed better speed when he took out 3 angels in a moment, and he was fighting Marco, well his after image was and he was behind Marco. Luchist is nothing in any stat whatsoever compared to Hao. Also I didn’t see nearly as good as speed as lightning speed. Since we do know Hao oversouls at lightning speed, it requires thought to do that meaning he thinks at lightning speed. Besides that, Hao killed an island busting Angel in that navy scan. You can say it’s hyperbole but the fact that everything the guy said about the three seconds and him going to die was true, so it’s most likely true he can island bust. Other than that they stated it not to Hao but to themselves. No reason to lie amongst team mates. Seriously, dude, I have seen more impressive stuff from Luchist so you need to seriously get better scans.
*Yawn* then instead of typing about 'feats' post more scans about Hao, you should know Circular logic rarely holds water everything I posted was about Ichigo with his abilities. You 'speed' is others then you base it on Circular Logic. Prove your claims or bow out. Simple as that Edit
And now you claiming lightning speed, the ball is in your court to prove that too
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Chaos Theory wrote:
*Yawn* then instead of typing about 'feats' post more scans about Hao, you should know Circular logic rarely holds water everything I posted was about Ichigo with his abilities. You 'speed' is others then you base it on Circular Logic. Prove your claims or bow out. Simple as that
Ummmm In Shaman King they use their Furiyoku to increase their stats. So I CAN use other’s feats to prove Hao’s. Dude, if we go by feats of Hao alone, then this is inconclusive as he has NEVER been beaten, and he has NEVER really been serious. So this fight is inconclusive at best since I can’t use feats like that, even though it makes sense. Either way, Hao killed an island busting angel. It’s in the scans I posted before. Call it hyperbole if you will, but you’d have to prove it was over estimation when:
Everything stated about the angel was true, it could only be out 3 seconds, and it would kill the dude probably, it didn’t island bust but Hao killed it’s ass before hand.
The people were talking amongst themselves btw, so no reason to over estimate.
Either way, with highest end feats for Hao this can not be concluded. You can’t say Ichigo wins AT ALL based on ANYTHING because guess what? Hao has never been serious and saying Ichigo is strong enough would be making assumptions.
Saying that Hao would beat Ichigo is a large assumption as well. I mean you have actually provided no proof of anything.
LS is a bust because it has only happened once.
The speed feat you showed was of Hao getting attacked by a masked man.
The power feat was him attacking ships.
My speed feats were based on Ichigo in early BLEACH before the SS arc, sure the speed wasn’t flashy but he did travel good distances vertically, quickly.
And BLAH, BLAH I’ve never read Shamen King but with the stuff that you’ve posted thus far, I really would care to start reading it, unless you provide something that is debatable.
Secondly if you want to use circular logic that is fine you can but that means I can as well.
Chaos Theory wrote:
*Yawn* then instead of typing about 'feats' post more scans about Hao, you should know Circular logic rarely holds water everything I posted was about Ichigo with his abilities. You 'speed' is others then you base it on Circular Logic. Prove your claims or bow out. Simple as that
Ummmm In Shaman King they use their Furiyoku to increase their stats. So I CAN use other’s feats to prove Hao’s. Dude, if we go by feats of Hao alone, then this is inconclusive as he has NEVER been beaten, and he has NEVER really been serious. So this fight is inconclusive at best since I can’t use feats like that, even though it makes sense. Either way, Hao killed an island busting angel. It’s in the scans I posted before. Call it hyperbole if you will, but you’d have to prove it was over estimation when:
Everything stated about the angel was true, it could only be out 3 seconds, and it would kill the dude probably, it didn’t island bust but Hao killed it’s ass before hand.
The people were talking amongst themselves btw, so no reason to over estimate.
Either way, with highest end feats for Hao this can not be concluded. You can’t say Ichigo wins AT ALL based on ANYTHING because guess what? Hao has never been serious and saying Ichigo is strong enough would be making assumptions.
Chaos Theory wrote:
Saying that Hao would beat Ichigo is a large assumption as well. I mean you have actually provided no proof of anything.
LS is a bust because it has only happened once.
The speed feat you showed was of Hao getting attacked by a masked man.
The power feat was him attacking ships.
My speed feats were based on Ichigo in early BLEACH before the SS arc, sure the speed wasn’t flashy but he did travel good distances vertically, quickly.
And BLAH, BLAH I’ve never read Shamen King but with the stuff that you’ve posted thus far, I really would care to start reading it, unless you provide something that is debatable.
Secondly if you want to use circular logic that is fine you can but that means I can as well.
Considering he devours souls and anywhere there is oxygen could equal death for Ichigo? Not really. All Hao would have to do is spawn fire everywhere around and on Ichigo and he is as good as dead.
That was Ren and his oversoul. Hardly human AT ALL. Those guys cut through steel pretty easily. Like cars and shit, and I think there is another impressive feat he did but I’d have to find it. So it’s not just a normal man.
That’s cool if that’s how it works in Bleach. If Ichigo’s enemy that he defeated before can up his spiritual power to make him like idk 100 mph or something, then Ichigo could do it too. It’s pretty simple logic dude. I mean Goku has never busted a planet, but Frieza can. It’s called power scaling, you do that for Aizen as well.
Chaos Theory wrote:
Saying that Hao would beat Ichigo is a large assumption as well. I mean you have actually provided no proof of anything.
LS is a bust because it has only happened once.
The speed feat you showed was of Hao getting attacked by a masked man.
The power feat was him attacking ships.
My speed feats were based on Ichigo in early BLEACH before the SS arc, sure the speed wasn’t flashy but he did travel good distances vertically, quickly.
And BLAH, BLAH I’ve never read Shamen King but with the stuff that you’ve posted thus far, I really would care to start reading it, unless you provide something that is debatable.
Secondly if you want to use circular logic that is fine you can but that means I can as well.
Considering he devours souls and anywhere there is oxygen could equal death for Ichigo? Not really. All Hao would have to do is spawn fire everywhere around and on Ichigo and he is as good as dead.
That was Ren and his oversoul. Hardly human AT ALL. Those guys cut through steel pretty easily. Like cars and shit, and I think there is another impressive feat he did but I’d have to find it. So it’s not just a normal man.
That’s cool if that’s how it works in Bleach. If Ichigo’s enemy that he defeated before can up his spiritual power to make him like idk 100 mph or something, then Ichigo could do it too. It’s pretty simple logic dude. I mean Goku has never busted a planet, but Frieza can. It’s called power scaling, you do that for Aizen as well.
Well get up some more scans, seems like this debate might actually go some where.
Chaos Theory wrote:
*Yawn* then instead of typing about 'feats' post more scans about Hao, you should know Circular logic rarely holds water everything I posted was about Ichigo with his abilities. You 'speed' is others then you base it on Circular Logic. Prove your claims or bow out. Simple as that
Ummmm In Shaman King they use their Furiyoku to increase their stats. So I CAN use other’s feats to prove Hao’s. Dude, if we go by feats of Hao alone, then this is inconclusive as he has NEVER been beaten, and he has NEVER really been serious. So this fight is inconclusive at best since I can’t use feats like that, even though it makes sense. Either way, Hao killed an island busting angel. It’s in the scans I posted before. Call it hyperbole if you will, but you’d have to prove it was over estimation when:
Everything stated about the angel was true, it could only be out 3 seconds, and it would kill the dude probably, it didn’t island bust but Hao killed it’s ass before hand.
The people were talking amongst themselves btw, so no reason to over estimate.
Either way, with highest end feats for Hao this can not be concluded. You can’t say Ichigo wins AT ALL based on ANYTHING because guess what? Hao has never been serious and saying Ichigo is strong enough would be making assumptions.
Chaos Theory wrote:
*Yawn* then instead of typing about 'feats' post more scans about Hao, you should know Circular logic rarely holds water everything I posted was about Ichigo with his abilities. You 'speed' is others then you base it on Circular Logic. Prove your claims or bow out. Simple as that
Ummmm In Shaman King they use their Furiyoku to increase their stats. So I CAN use other’s feats to prove Hao’s. Dude, if we go by feats of Hao alone, then this is inconclusive as he has NEVER been beaten, and he has NEVER really been serious. So this fight is inconclusive at best since I can’t use feats like that, even though it makes sense. Either way, Hao killed an island busting angel. It’s in the scans I posted before. Call it hyperbole if you will, but you’d have to prove it was over estimation when:
Everything stated about the angel was true, it could only be out 3 seconds, and it would kill the dude probably, it didn’t island bust but Hao killed it’s ass before hand.
The people were talking amongst themselves btw, so no reason to over estimate.
Either way, with highest end feats for Hao this can not be concluded. You can’t say Ichigo wins AT ALL based on ANYTHING because guess what? Hao has never been serious and saying Ichigo is strong enough would be making assumptions.
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everything I posted was about Ichigo with his abilities. You 'speed' is others then you base it on Circular Logic. Prove your claims or bow out. Simple as that
Drop all three at the same time