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T.L.O.Z.R. wrote: OH WELL GUESS YOU LOST because

1st You never proved Samus can travel at the Speed of light.



Link can’t travel at the speed of light, either. Provide proof of that, please. Meanwhile, if you would bother to read the thread, you would have found my evidence that Samus is supersonic or beyond supersonic. Read my response to Engine. Samus does not need to be lightspeed to kill Link.

2ND 'Gamma-rays have the smallest wavelengths and the most energy of any other wave in the electromagnetic spectrum. These waves are generated by radioactive atoms and in nuclear explosions. Gamma-rays can kill living cells, a fact which medicine uses to its advantage, using gamma-rays to kill cancerous cells'.
http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/gamma.html



Your ignorance astounds me. Do you know what phazon is? It is a highly radioactive substance that can kill instantly. It is more powerful than gamma rays. You touch it, instant death, mutation, insanity, and several other unpleasant symptoms. Samus eats it. Gamma radiation will do nothing.
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Phazon

3rd The Omega Cannon [...] fires a powerful but slow-moving ball of radioactive energy that has a timed detonation, traveling a significant distance before exploding, unless it comes into contact with an object, in which case it will detonate immediately.
@ metroid.wikia.com
This means that link can shoot something at it causing it to detonate before it touches him, and i did not find any info about it containing gamma rays.



The blast does 60 damage to Samus' 1499 HP shields. That detonation, even if it doesn’t hit, will kill Link with the explosion alone.

and 4th “It’s one of the abilities of the Light Suit: to MOVE THROUGH LIGHT to get somewhere instantly”(Scenario).
Link can easily warp her to the twilight, where is all darkness not light.


And she uses a Sol (twili light source) or the mirror to get back. But I’m curious, how will Link send her there? Not even Midna could open a portal to the twilight realm.


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-link can’t either. unless you mean warping. which is only to certain preset places. so unless he’s gonna warp to kokiri forest in the middle of the fight or something......

-she has a suit. you don’t think it’s gonna shield her?

-it’ll still blow him up

-wut


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So did samus resist the phazon,or did dark samus leave her with the phazon on purpose?


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The Surfer wrote: So did samus resist the phazon,or did dark samus leave her with the phazon on purpose?


Dark Samus corrupted her in an attempt to turn her into DS' new body. This backfired so hard it’s not even funny. Samus ended up resisting the mind control, insanity, and mutation (something none of Samus' allies managed), and used the phazon to kill Dark Samus.


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T.L.O.Z.R. wrote: OH WELL GUESS YOU LOST because

1st You never proved Samus can travel at the Speed of light.


She can. Light, or beams of light are required.

2ND 'Gamma-rays have the smallest wavelengths and the most energy of any other wave in the electromagnetic spectrum. These waves are generated by radioactive atoms and in nuclear explosions. Gamma-rays can kill living cells, a fact which medicine uses to its advantage, using gamma-rays to kill cancerous cells'.
http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/gamma.html


False. Gamma rays are the most energetic type of energy of the electromagnetic spectrum. They are so energetic that strong concentrations can pass through concrete, even steel.

3rd The Omega Cannon [...] fires a powerful but slow-moving ball of radioactive energy that has a timed detonation, traveling a significant distance before exploding, unless it comes into contact with an object, in which case it will detonate immediately.
@ metroid.wikia.com
This means that link can shoot something at it causing it to detonate before it touches him, and i did not find any info about it containing gamma rays.


“It contains heavy gamma radiation.... small scale nuke”
That’s what the wiki states. It’s not nearly as slow as the wiki makes it sound either. It’s extremely effective in close range as it possess a very significant blast diameter that deals immensely high damage to whatever it hits. Close range is something Link may very possible try to do as he uses a lot of sword-play. The Omega Cannon has infinite ammo, she can simply fire away consecutively under these conditions. This would grant Samus a huge advantage.

and 4th “It’s one of the abilities of the Light Suit: to MOVE THROUGH LIGHT to get somewhere instantly”(Scenario).
Link can easily warp her to the twilight, where is all darkness not light.


The Light Suit is COMPLETELY IMMUNE to any and all darkness effects. This will not aid Link nor hinder Samus.


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Correct me if im wrong but the plasma beam could probably melt into links sword, and if not that samus goes into hyper mode and death balls him.. because link is really not that quick, i dont see link winning this fight at all..

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Xx edgarxX wrote: Correct me if im wrong but the plasma beam could probably melt into links sword, and if not that samus goes into hyper mode and death balls him.. because link is really not that quick, i dont see link winning this fight at all..


No, the Master Sword is indestructible. Hypermode will kill him, though.


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As we all know phazon is a “FAKE” substance, :. by mixing Phazon and gamma radiation you all keep contradicting each other.

Is hard to deal with fools that do not have any sources or use the wrong one, Wikias are websites designed by users, :. fake!

@ serris0809
how can you doubt NASA, i doubt you have better knowledge!

And for the record I NEVER mentioned that link could travel at the speed of light.and even if Samus were to be faster than link that still does not conclude her victorious.

It takes 1 Zelda freak to Deal with 4 Samus nerds! thats why im by myself.
Oh and in the charts Link is way more popular than Samus! Not to mention MC is taking over her!hahahahhahahahahahahah!!!!

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Popularity has nothing to do with this. The mere fact that you would stoop that low is a sign of your desperation. In fact, you didn’t actually say, prove, rebut, counter, or claim anything in that post of yours.

Samus is faster than Link. Neither one is lightspeed. These are facts.

Link cannot significantly harm Samus. This is a fact.

Any of Samus' weapons will reduce Link to powder. This is a fact.

Invincibility does not last forever. This is a fact.

Samus wins. This is a freaking fact.


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Samus stomps Link badly...


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T.L.O.Z.R. wrote: @ serris0809
how can you doubt NASA, i doubt you have better knowledge!


http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/gamma.html

This proves my point and disproves your statement about Gamma Rays. Also, this site was created by NASA.


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T.L.O.Z.R. wrote: It takes 1 Zelda freak to Deal with 4 Samus nerds! thats why im by myself.
Oh and in the charts Link is way more popular than Samus! Not to mention MC is taking over her!hahahahhahahahahahahah!!!!


You obviously have no idea how badly you’re getting owned. By the way, popularity has nothing to do with this.


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scenario wrote:
Link can use the Mirror Shield to block all of Samus' beam shots, and the Reflect spell (from Zelda II) for missiles. With infinite magic from Chateau Romani, he can spam this infinitely.



Only one of the Links have the reflect spell. You should say you’re using a combined Link from all the games, otherwise.

Missiles still own him, thanks to that.


scenario wrote:
Also from Zelda II, the Thunder spell, which can do severe damage to all enemies but takes a ton of magic. Again, infinite magic. Same for the Ether(ice), Bombos(fire), and Quake(magic) spells.



Neither Thunder Spell nor the medallion spells are available to the Link that can get infinite magic.

scenario wrote:
Between Nayru’s Love, Staff of Byrna, Magic Armor (Wind Waker), and Magic Armor (Twilight Princess), Link is invulnerable. He’s got 6 days of this.



Each Link only has one of those.

scenario wrote:
And then, Link can go back in time 3 days to start over in case he thinks he’ll lose.



Only one Link can do this, but it’s a decent argument.


I know you shifted side just to show them how they argued wrong, but I thought I should point that out.




And now, I come with the grueling facts about Link’s physical durability. Story feats cancel out Gameplay feats.

OoT-MM Link: Was knocked out cold by falling of a horse(that wasn’t even fully grown). That’s not even peak human durability.
Samus could knock him out with a slap, in Zero Suit.


WW:
Was shot straight into a rock wall at high speed, lost his senses temporarily, but no harm was really done to him.
Was thrown beyond the horizon by Helmaroc King.
Was largely not that harmed but still knocked out from the landing.
This is the most durable Link(superhuman), and Samus steel-shattering punches would still knock him out cold(but not necessarily kill him).



TP:
Was KO’d with a single hit with a club, from a bulblin mook.
Samus would rip his head off with a punch.


Fact: If Samus uses anything on Link before he can go invincible, she wins.

Fact:
She can just dash at him with her speed boosters. The impact would kill him, or at least knock him out.
She can just shoot him with an uncharged Charge beam. He’d die, or be knocked out.


As a Zelda Fan, I tend to look at most sequences more than once. :P





The only REALLY good argument for Link winning is the one with Link wishing Samus dead with the triforce(ALttP link). This one doesn’t work thanks to Samus speed, though.

And the invincibility arguments need work too- just because they haven’t shown an upper limit doesn’t mean they don’t have one. And since they haven’t tanked anything on the level of Samus more powerful attacks, I could just say that it’s a no limit fallacy to assume his invincibility items could actually defend him.

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Unless otherwise noted, the character used is a Composite of all forms and items. This understandably makes Link a ridiculous powerhouse. Your arguments against the combos are great, but I now have no idea which Link you are using.

It should be noted that we are also using All Items Samus. Including the Phazon Suit and PED at the same time.

Another Wind Waker durability feat: After an explosion tosses him halfway across the ocean, he slams face first into the Tower of the Gods, and then falls several stories into the water.

Little guy is tough.


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scenario wrote: Unless otherwise noted, the character used is a Composite of all forms and items. This understandably makes Link a ridiculous powerhouse. Your arguments against the combos are great, but I now have no idea which Link you are using.


It should be noted that we are also using All Items Samus. Including the Phazon Suit and PED at the same time.



I just have to ask if that truly how it works.

Samus having all items is acceptable because they are all incarnations of the same person.

Link is not that- we have several persons by that name, and each of them are their own. They are not different forms of the character- they are different people, like Naruto and Sasuke.

Since it’s two different persons, it’s like if I tried to argue that Sasuke can use all Naruto’s skills.
A better example: I am given all the abilities and weapons of a guy from the future that happens to share my name.

I can see why they would make a composite... but it’s not a fitting way in this case.




scenario wrote: Another Wind Waker durability feat: After an explosion tosses him halfway across the ocean, he slams face first into the Tower of the Gods, and then falls several stories into the water.

Little guy is tough.



True.

Why not simply have it like this: Say this or that Link, with all the equipment available in the series.


I mean, giving him all the items is one thing, but durability and strength feats should not carry over from one person to another when the have contradicting feats.


I guess I’ll just consider the “merged Link” to be WW-Link with the possibility to use everything the others got to use in the series then.








Well, anyway, the Zelda series worst problem is a lack of speed feats. :P

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I still laugh!
Last time i checked it said Link vs Samus!
in anything, you are all just mad that link is more popular!

So if any body can come up with facts like that than here they go.
Link is faster than Samus. Fact.
Link is more powerful than samus. fact.
Link can kill samus with only the slingshot. fact.
Link wins. that is the best fact.

@ scenario Oh in post #109 you didn’t prove anything either.
and you are the one getting mad anyways, you said “this is a FREAKING fact”.

@ serris0809 You are just lost in circles, let me explain everything since you are so slow, first we were discussing gamma rays when in post #98 Red_Calibur9 said that gamma rays are not harmful at all, and in post #100, i disproved him, and later here you come trying to counter me with my own sources and to any body that is just retarded!!!!
By the way how much do you love Scnario cause you keep repeating his info!!!

Link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Samus!!!

Last edited 01 Oct 2009 05:35 pm by T.L.O.Z.R.
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Link is a curious one. On the one hand, you have a bunch of different people with various motivations and abilities. And on the other hand you have all of them being a reincarnation of the same guy. Except for Wind Waker, all the Links shared the Hylian Knight bloodline, I think.

Link is a bunch of different people, but arguably is the same character. It can’t be coincidence that all of them use a sword and shield, have an affinity for Courage, and wear green and that awesome hat.


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Dude i can’t belive im fighting these two characters!
they are both like my favorite characters!
dammmmmmmn this website!!!!!

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