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Veritas wrote: tsk tsk tsk insulting a fellow debater? And you say your the best? And It can’t be just decided. I did not ignore anything. I proved it. And i proved it once again now.

But i suppose if your going to ignore this again, that’s fine. No loss to me. Go on your delusional win trophy.



When did I insult you? I said you ignored logic and that Boo insulted me. Both true points. You just typed up a huge fricking post basically trying to explain why Omnislash isn’t planet busting durability which whether or not it is, is a moot point. Omnislash V6, which beat him didn’t physically harm Sephiroth to begin with in Advent Children. Second you say Broly’s ki blasts are so hot just because of a bomb’s temperature? Yet somehow these ki blasts will hit mountains and simply blow them apart instead of melting them. The post is full of so much crap that it’s difficult to take it seriously.

But the reason I said you ignored logic is because you made the bold statement that dodging an explosion is more impressive then dodging lightning. When I proved that statement incorrect by comparing the speed of an explosion to lightning you called me wrong with nothing to back that up.

In fact, the Broly side continuously ignored arguments made by me and if they didn’t ignore them then they simply claimed them incorrect and gave some bogus reason without proving it. Such as Boo claiming Sephiroth’s durability isn’t the same as Jenova even though they’re both made of the same thing now. Or Boo claiming that Cloud didn’t dodge real lightning with the creators clearly said he did.

It wasn’t even a debate because the Broly side only provided an actual argument a couple times. Arguments which were promptly rebutted.


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Do not post this Broly vs Sephiroth stuff in this topic. This is Sephiroth vs Superman. Not Sephiroth vs Broly.


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Indalecio wrote: Do not post this Broly vs Sephiroth stuff in this topic. This is Sephiroth vs Superman. Not Sephiroth vs Broly.


Yes.

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i going to start of with the basics and review superman’s abilities.
Heat vision of course was able to expand and cover a planet
ice breath.(blitized people alot with this)
superspeed. light speed(refers to the Darksied fight)
reaction(discounting the early post crisis)(bizzaro vs superman fight)
hurricane breath.

now for some external abilities.
orbital smash(he came out of of orbit)




thunderclap

soul vision.


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So this superman has lightspeed movement? Cause if so I’m not even going to try.


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Insult me? yes. The way you reply to me is very insulting with no respect at all. I take that insulting while i completely respected you as a fellow debater. You sir, need to become more respectful.

And you missed the whole point of my post. Saying Omni slash is weaker is just a small part of it. And I am talking about Broly’s planet exploding attacks, not mounting busting attacks. And explosions releases heat. What explosion doesn’t release heat? And btw, this is a manga, not a very well thought out manga so not all the details are there. And you not taking seriously is only helping me further think of you more of a fanboy then anything else.

And dodging an explosion? Dude, if you haven’t realized it but Goku was INSIDE the sphere, as in he was in the middle of a tsnar bomb going off the split nanosecond the sphere touched something. Goku escaped the blast radius, the explosion so completely that he didn’t have a scratch on him. Lets see Seph doing the same thing without teleporting. Can you honestly say that Seph can outrun that bomb without using teleport? Hes able to dodge lightning. But that’s all.

And you compared the speed of an AVERAGE explosion. What kind of average explosion are you talking about? Because your not being specific here. Does a tsar bomb look like an average explosion?

And you say the broly side contined to ignore everything you said? LOL your doing the same thing. I showed proof. I stated them. I rebutted against your arguments with actual proof of video. What happened? you denied it by saying Seph is a lightning dodger or some crap. I don’t see Seph outrunning a tsar bomb. Can you?

Really now, claiming that Seph can beat Goku? much less Broly? hard to imagine. For a lightning reflex, he sure is slow in the movie compared to Goku.

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Jenova wrote: So this superman has lightspeed movement? Cause if so I’m not even going to try.


the darksied fight and the escaping black holes shows this.


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someone lock this now before they start turning this into a DBZ vs Sephiroth thread.


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Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?


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Indalecio wrote: Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?


i guess so. yeah it will be fair.


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Indalecio wrote: Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?



I’d think so. No speed blitzing means Superman won’t be able to just pound the hell out of Seph before Seph can cry for mommy.


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Indalecio wrote: Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?


Sure.

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Jenova wrote:

Indalecio wrote: Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?



I’d think so. No speed blitzing means Superman won’t be able to just pound the hell out of Seph before Seph can cry for mommy.


You mean cry for you.


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Indalecio wrote:

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Indalecio wrote: Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?



I’d think so. No speed blitzing means Superman won’t be able to just pound the hell out of Seph before Seph can cry for mommy.


You mean cry for you.


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Veritas wrote: Insult me? yes. The way you reply to me is very insulting with no respect at all. I take that insulting while i completely respected you as a fellow debater. You sir, need to become more respectful.

And you missed the whole point of my post. Saying Omni slash is weaker is just a small part of it. And I am talking about Broly’s planet exploding attacks, not mounting busting attacks. And explosions releases heat. What explosion doesn’t release heat? And btw, this is a manga, not a very well thought out manga so not all the details are there. And you not taking seriously is only helping me further think of you more of a fanboy then anything else.

And dodging an explosion? Dude, if you haven’t realized it but Goku was INSIDE the sphere, as in he was in the middle of a tsnar bomb going off the split nanosecond the sphere touched something. Goku escaped the blast radius, the explosion so completely that he didn’t have a scratch on him. Lets see Seph doing the same thing without teleporting. Can you honestly say that Seph can outrun that bomb without using teleport? Hes able to dodge lightning. But that’s all.

And you compared the speed of an AVERAGE explosion. What kind of average explosion are you talking about? Because your not being specific here. Does a tsar bomb look like an average explosion?

And you say the broly side contined to ignore everything you said? LOL your doing the same thing. I showed proof. I stated them. I rebutted against your arguments with actual proof of video. What happened? you denied it by saying Seph is a lightning dodger or some crap. I don’t see Seph outrunning a tsar bomb. Can you?

Really now, claiming that Seph can beat Goku? much less Broly? hard to imagine. For a lightning reflex, he sure is slow in the movie compared to Goku.



This isn’t the thread. You want to bitch about it more, do so in PM and I might be willing to respond though there is no reason because a decision was already made.


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Indalecio wrote:

Jenova wrote:

Indalecio wrote: Would it be an interesting fight if say, speed was evened?



I’d think so. No speed blitzing means Superman won’t be able to just pound the hell out of Seph before Seph can cry for mommy.


You mean cry for you.



Yes. Change the thread title to put “speed equalized” at the end and I’ll debate it.


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Wow. Equal speed is completely ridiculous. Why are you guys debating with such a crippling blow dealt to the man of steel?


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The King of MVC wrote: Wow. Equal speed is completely ridiculous. Why are you guys debating with such a crippling blow dealt to the man of steel?



Because this thread is spite thread. It’ll either be locked as one or speed has to be equalized.


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Jenova wrote:

The King of MVC wrote: Wow. Equal speed is completely ridiculous. Why are you guys debating with such a crippling blow dealt to the man of steel?



Because this thread is spite thread. It’ll either be locked as one or speed has to be equalized.

It’s a pointless fight though. One of the things that makes Supes so special is his ability to speed blitz.


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The King of MVC wrote:

Jenova wrote:

The King of MVC wrote: Wow. Equal speed is completely ridiculous. Why are you guys debating with such a crippling blow dealt to the man of steel?



Because this thread is spite thread. It’ll either be locked as one or speed has to be equalized.

It’s a pointless fight though. One of the things that makes Supes so special is his ability to speed blitz.



Just saying, if it’s not going to be equalized speed then Superman utterly rapes. Sephiroth is above lightning speed at best, though we don’t know how far above. Cloud dodges lightning easily, and Seph speed blitzes Cloud. So blargh. Speed equalized it’s a decent debate because if I recall Supes is weak to magic and mind attacks, something that Seph has plenty of.


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