Samurai, hands down. A knight isn’t trained to do much with sword combat like the samurai. Besides, a samurai sword isn’t as heavy as a knight’s sword, usually, and neither is the armor. Good speed advantage.
Actually, armor in europe was quite heavy. And they wore more of it, which limits limb mobility. The samurai armor is designed more for mobility due to the sword style they used.
Also, the were very homoerotic. They could scare the knights into submission.
samuries would have a tuff time penatrating the knights armour but sumries know many teqniques and seem more deticated. but usaully knights use lances which are better for defence than swords so its a tuff choice really.
Most of you seem to only know hollywood’s knight. Knghts where highly trained and their
armor was very hard to pierce. Kights swords usaly wieghed 3 pounds and samurai 2 pounds so not much wieght diference. Also samurai swords where very brittle. Also would this be a mounted or un mounted battle? Knightlance would instanly kill a samurai because of how their armor was made. A little known fact is that knights knew a kind of martial art that included grapling, fighting unarmed against an armed opponent, punches and kicks where also known and could be done in the knights very mobil full plate armor. Just so everbody knows people can do flips in full plate armor, and if a knight had a greatsword (thats a two handed, 5-6 foot long, 4-8 pound sword) the samurai would be dead in seconds. Samurai armor wiegh around 20-30 pounds but all the weight on the shoulders knight armor wieghed 45-60 pounds but only 15-20 pounds on the shoulders so the eqivalent is knights armor would not feel so heavy to a train knight than samurai armor was to a trained samori. This is what would happen in a mounted fight: the knight would charge with his lance and skewer the samurai. Unmounted, the samurai would probabaly try to fight the knight like another samurai, one cut on the knights armor and his sword would be dull. The knight would attack with a powerful blow and probabaly kill the samurai in one hit. Unarmed, the knight’s armor would be completly unpenitrable by an unarmed samurai(it was close to unpenitrable by an armed samurai)knight could strangle the samurai becase samurai just couldent get though that damn armor; you need hammers or mace to get through knight’s armor niether were in use in Japan as a weapon of war. Same for ninjas they just couldent get through the armor evan early guns like hand canons only had a 25 % chance of penitrating plate armor. People who think samurai sword could cut through rock are right, but only if it was sandstone, which you can break with your bare hands.
Ninja’s might have a chance because of their hand cannons, samurais would have no chance in hell because they just wouldn’t be able to pierce the knight’s armor.
Osama Binlama wrote:
Most of you seem to only know hollywood’s knight. Knghts where highly trained and their
armor was very hard to pierce. Kights swords usaly wieghed 3 pounds and samurai 2 pounds so not much wieght diference. Also samurai swords where very brittle. Also would this be a mounted or un mounted battle? Knightlance would instanly kill a samurai because of how their armor was made. A little known fact is that knights knew a kind of martial art that included grapling, fighting unarmed against an armed opponent, punches and kicks where also known and could be done in the knights very mobil full plate armor. Just so everbody knows people can do flips in full plate armor, and if a knight had a greatsword (thats a two handed, 5-6 foot long, 4-8 pound sword) the samurai would be dead in seconds. Samurai armor wiegh around 20-30 pounds but all the weight on the shoulders knight armor wieghed 45-60 pounds but only 15-20 pounds on the shoulders so the eqivalent is knights armor would not feel so heavy to a train knight than samurai armor was to a trained samori. This is what would happen in a mounted fight: the knight would charge with his lance and skewer the samurai. Unmounted, the samurai would probabaly try to fight the knight like another samurai, one cut on the knights armor and his sword would be dull. The knight would attack with a powerful blow and probabaly kill the samurai in one hit. Unarmed, the knight’s armor would be completly unpenitrable by an unarmed samurai(it was close to unpenitrable by an armed samurai)knight could strangle the samurai becase samurai just couldent get though that damn armor; you need hammers or mace to get through knight’s armor niether were in use in Japan as a weapon of war. Same for ninjas they just couldent get through the armor evan early guns like hand canons only had a 25 % chance of penitrating plate armor. People who think samurai sword could cut through rock are right, but only if it was sandstone, which you can break with your bare hands.
Ninja’s might have a chance because of their hand cannons, samurais would have no chance in hell because they just wouldn’t be able to pierce the knight’s armor.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I have an old English Broadsword, Claymore, and Shortsword as well as 5 Katana. The claymore weighs about 25 pounds, the Broadsword about 20, and the short sword around 5. The Katana weigh about 2 pounds. The most commonly used Swords by knights were the broadwords, they may have weighed more than the shortsword but they packed a bigger punch, so chances are our Knight would be using the Broadsword.
Samurai Armor was mostly light metal, they only wore shin guards which were close to 3 pounds each, a breast plate that weighed about 20 pounds, shoulder pads that were around 8 pounds, and arm guards that were less than 2 pounds each., the Helmets were only worn by the Shogan during pre and post war ceremonies. The grand total on the weight for Samurai comes to around 46 pounds. With other clothing and weapons it would be around 55 pounds.
A Knight’s Armor is plate metal on top of chainmail, the plate metal chestplate alone weighs about 40 pounds, the pauldrons around 10 pounds each, the leggings were around 25 pounds the boots were about 15, the gloves about 5 each the helment was around 3 pounds. This comes to about 113 pounds altogether, with weapons it comes to about 135 pounds. Then adding in about 15 pounds for the Chain Mail Shirt, gives us a grand total of about 150 pounds. Seems like a Major weight difference to me.
Samurai have better skills with their weapons compared to a Knight, but the Knight is better armoured. However, Armor plating has a weakness, along with it being too heavy to alow swift movements, it also has about 10 openings throught the body, mostly on the joints, a Samurai could easily dodge the Knight’s swings with his weapon, in the end the Samurai would see the opening in the Plate Mail and kill the Knight.
Also, you said that Samurai Swords were brittle? That’s a big Hell No, Samurai Swords were often considered to be the best in Japan. Being a Samurai was a figure of great importance, The finest Sword Smiths in Japan wanted to make Swords for the Samurai.
And you said that the Samurai Sword could get through the Plate Armor? A Broadsword that is thrusted hard enough will slice right through Plate Mail, it was made to protect against swings, not thrusts. It isn’t too hard to cut through and you put enough force behind it. Also, the Samurai isn’t some kind of barbarian, he wouldn’t be so stupid as to attack the Knight’s Armor, he’d go for any opening he could find.
The Samurai wins this hands down, it took the bringing of guns to end the Samurai’s reign in Japan.
Osama Binlama wrote:
Everything I said in the first place is true you made stuff up to make samouria seem better than they actuly are sorry your wrong ok.
I got my information from watching a bunch of midevil stuff on the History Channel, I’m not wrong, you can even look it up if you want.
I’ve seen stuff on the History channel and none of it says swords wiegh 25 pounds. European sword smiths where not like black smiths there had to go through years and years of training to make swords. A black smith is someone who works with iron but could not make swords. Plus I own a long sword and it only wieghs 3 pounds. The biggest European sword ever found wieghs 17 pounds and was for knighting ceromonys the largest sword used for combat ever found weighs 13 pounds and it was 7 and a half feet long. Scottish claymors only wiegh around 4 to 7 pounds. Samari swords where brittle but not what you think it means it means they can’t bend but will snap if struck the wrong way and they can’t get through knights armor either. But there is a samari weapon that might be able to get through the leg and arm plates if swong very hardly the No Dachi. No Dachis wieghed around 5 pounds and where around 5 feet long. Knights armor wieghs around 50 to 75 pounds but no way 150 pounds.
Knights would probily win but samari could easily kill European foot soilders like spearman, pikeman, however they would lose agent longbowman becase samaris bows are much weaker and they would be outranged.
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