| 27 Sep 2005 09:13 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Lets show people the truth!
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:14 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Christiananity really changed my life!
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:15 pm |
hahahahaha Rep: 26  Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 14,939 OFFLINE | i was raised in a christian houshold, so i never realy had a big change.
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:17 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Ya but can you tell that you are loved by god and your heart is saved?
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:20 pm |
hahahahaha Rep: 26  Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 14,939 OFFLINE | ya.
i gota go. (stupid homework)
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:25 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Hey people! People have forever been trying to disprove the Bible but guess what it has never happend yet. Everything that has happend has been proven that it indeed happen. Historian found out that Jesus did exsist. There was a great flood that covered the whole world and wiped out all race of people except a few. they have found parts of a ship during this flood. The only thing that has not come to pass is the Revolation. But it looks like the time is getting nearer!
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:32 pm |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 378 OFFLINE | i was raised christian, and properly, from a biblical perspective, not like a catholic or from c of e, what about the fossil record of pre humans? does that not negate our beliefs?
answer me!
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:42 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | OK think of it this way Adem and Eve ARE NOT THE FIRST people. They were the first people chosen by God. Because When Cain killed Able God banished Cain to the people to the west. Wait as econt were we not always taught that Adem and Eve were the first people created!? That is because people misinterpit the Bible. And then when it says the woeld was created in seven days, that does not mean seven days of are calander in fact that was not created untill the Romans. But we dont know Gods time seven days could mean seven million years to us! And I am one that am a scientific thinker bu5t even I tried to contradict the Bible, trust me it can not be done!
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:47 pm |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 378 OFFLINE | in the scriptures, a day is likened to a thousand years to god, it is only people who liken it to their own calender
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:48 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Exactly!
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:51 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,735 OFFLINE | Well kinda hard for you’ll to argue if you got no one to argue with. I usually don’t like to get into religion because someone is always protective of their religion to the death. Now me I’m very open-minded to all religions cause I see each and everyone of them as very interesting. I see it as very hard for someone to believe in a religion because it is a very serious matter. Lucky for most of you guys you had no choice. It was shoved down your throat since you were born so obviously you’ll believe it without question. Everyone follow.
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| 27 Sep 2005 09:59 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Actually I found God on my own since my parents are not christian. Like I said earlier it really changed my life! And please state you opinion I am open minded to. I believe that all religions has its faults and yes that means christanity to. But I also believe every religion has something true about it to. And if you are an Atheist state why. and dont say God sucks be real and say what is on your mind. I will not try to convert you over to my side for that is not what christianity is about. But if you really want to know a little bit more about god talk to me on my email address! Please dont be afraid to say about what you feel for I will listion.
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:04 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,735 OFFLINE | You know my parents brought me up as a Methodist and I never really questioned it that much. Then I started reading into other religions and I found out that almost every religion has the same keypoint in it. That being confort. One fear of man has always been about dying and every religion always seems to comfort man in aspects such as that. So I started thinking how do I know I’m believing the right religion when almost every religion is comforting man on his fears. That makes it sounds like man created it.
I don’t believe in evolution or the big bang theory. The world is too perfect for any of that to have happened. I don’t know if their is just one god or many gods but I just don’t think that is for humans to decide. I believe we should all just be grateful for the short time we’re here. We should all except that sooner or later we will die and that is how life goes. We should not worry our lives with how or why we are hear but more live our lives to the fullest. Then after death confront our maker to find out where we shall journey next. Comprehend all of this.
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:14 pm |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 378 OFFLINE | i find your thoughts most right, we should enjoy our short time on this planet, though we should not stop trying to understand our being, through scientific and religious thinking. how else can we understand ourselves, but through religious anmd scientific perseverence?
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:14 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | Well yes and no. If Jesus is really the Lord and Savior then in the Bible it says for salvation into the kingdom of Heaven one must believenth in me. So that menas if I dont believe in Jesus I will go to hell. But I have to agree with you if you take a look at all the religions they pretty much have the same beliefs. And it is shocking how much Islam and Judiasm is a like they both believe in the same God. My vies is that all the religions are from the true religion from long ago and that Jesus came down for are sins and made us brand new if we would believe in him. But like I said earlier I am open minded but I am a christen to. “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotton son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:17 pm |
IvanBernstein Guest | Original hebrew bible originally talks about Elohim (plural Gods) as who created the world and created man and woman.
When this bible had been translated through the ages, it has been altered to say God - in english, german, and so on.
But, there are still remnants of words that haven’t been altered from their original. Like, using “they” when talking about God doing something. Or “them” when talking about how man has been created from “their” own image.
After “God” banishes Cain, he is forced to go “live with the other people”....but at no point before then did the Bible mention any other people, only Adam/Eve had been created and they had a couple of kids.
The Bible also still refers to the Cherabum, which are the offspring of earth girls and the “Gods”. Refering to how the Gods found the Earth girls attractive and mated with them, causing these Cherabum to be born, who are specially gifted children with “God-like” qualities.
There is much in the Bible that contradicts itself. Most of it is due to deliberate alterations of the original texts as well as mere poor translation across various languages. Even from Old English to English causes many problems due to common words now having different meanings to common words back then.
I believe that Genesis is a great starting point because understanding the original Hebrew because it contradicts accepted theories of God and Man. Instead, it shows that we were genetically engineered by a race of aliens who resembled our biological organism, bringing “Religion” itself onto man, Thought, Knowledge.
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:21 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,735 OFFLINE | I never said I didn’t believe in Jesus. If you believe in God then you either believe in 3 different religions. Christianity, Judiasm, and Islamic. They all do share the same god just
Christianity- Jesus
Jewish- No messiah yet
Islamic- Mohammed
Now I do recognize that Jesus was a person but I mean he’s been proven to be real. Now whether he did what he did is another story. I like to be able to see what I believe and I guess you just can’t do that with faith. And if I believe in something I believe in it fully something a lot of religions flip around. Like in the Ten Comandments I believe on said he did not want statues created of him or other holy things yet you always see statues of Jesus and Mary at Christmas. In the Bible Jesus was never crucified to a cross. He was actually crucified to a tree. You see if you choose to follow a faith you should do it fully yet most religions are very hypocritical.
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:22 pm |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 378 OFFLINE | i mmay be wrong, but i think you are reffering to the nephalim, and also the the elohim is a simmilar study, is it not?
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| 27 Sep 2005 10:22 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | I have to disagree with you on that one. I always will believe in my faith and I believe in only ONE GOD.And it does not say that in the original Hebrew scripts. Plus it is even part of the ten commandments that you shall not worship any false gods and there is only on god! Jesus and the holy spirit and God is all one person.
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| 28 Sep 2005 07:01 pm |
The drummer Rep: 18  Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 14,614 OFFLINE | You can not talk bad about the Bible if you have yet to truely read it.
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