Rap vs Rock

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Haven’t posted in a long time

But lets just gets some facts down 55%-75% (depending on source) of rap (hip hop) is bought by white people in some sort of suburb. So either white people actually understand rap or are just buying it to be cool.

Now Kris, its cool that you used Rush and all, but it’s like me putting “They Reminise over you” by Pete Rock and CL Smooth or “Step into a World (Rapture’s Delight)" by KRS-One and saying how thats more deep than Nickleback (Billboard top Rock as of now). Look a lot of genres of music have a time where they talk about positive things, hip hop had it in the hip hop golden age (wikipedia it). As for the way they live, look I’m not here saying that all rappers (or ones that claim it), lived bad lives, but modern day ghetto’s aren’t good and if you look at the murder rates and crime rates there not as exagerated as you’d think (I actually live in a “ghetto” and I daily do see prostitutes and drug dealers, and ocasionally I see vigils to dead people, Oakland,CA. Not something I take pride in, but it happens).

And DestinyGuy white people usually support more underground hip-hop and mainstream. While minorities usually support regional hip-hop

Yes I like hip hop and I like most kinds of hip hop including the mainstream rap as well as the underground stuff, but I’d defend either rap or rock if I see something dumb, wrong, or a misconception in music.

kaos23

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Actually, rap falls under hip-hop. It is possible to be a hip hop artist without being a rapper (like DJ Shadow, Nightmares on Wax, etc.)

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Rock is better, and yes some white people understand rap.

Kris

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Now that I am looking at it it seems that most modern music is bad. It is mostly too comercial but if I was to look at rock as a whole and rap as a whole I think that rock is a lot better. All music has some good and bad songs but overall rock has more good ones. Most modern rap is not positive as was said and most rock is either meaningless or has a good meaning. I guess I feel bad if a rapper’s life isn’t as good as it should be but I don’t want to hear it in a song especially if it isn’t offering any solutions. And all music takes skill but i think that good rock is a lot harder to perform than rap.

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one thing rock has been around longer than rap meaning it will have more time to produce good songs. another thingdifficulty is an opinion people thinks its a lot easier than it is.

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true...

Kris

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It is true that rap hasn’t been around as long as rock but for the number of good songs for the amount of time around I think that rock is better. I don’t know how hard rap is but I just can’t imagine it being that hard. I also don’t like it when people say that rock takes no skill because it just isn’t true. I can’t say that rap takes little skill because I don’t know that much about it. And in the end the whole discussion will only go round and round because when it comes down to it whic style of music is better is an oppinion.

turds

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one of the best verses in history if you don’t believe me just read it




The theme song to the 'Sopranos', plays in the ~key of life~/
on my 'mental piano', got a strange way of -seeing life-/
like I’m 'Stevie Wonder' wit beads under the du-rag/
~intuition is there~ even when my ~visions impaired~/
knowing I can go, jus ~switching a spare~, on the Highway of life/
nigga resharpen my 'sight', OH/
~keen senses~ ever since i was a...~teen on the benches~/
everytime somebody like ~Enus was mentioned~/
I would turn green, me, ~being in the trenches~, him livin ~adventurous~/
nothing worrying about ~expenditures~/
I’m raising 'temperatures~ ~below Zero~, ~no hero~/
no `father figure`, u gotta `pardon a nigga`/
but I’m `starvin' my niggas`, the `weightloss in my figure`, ~startin to darken my heart~/
bout to get my `liver`/
watch it my niggas I’m tryn be `calm`, but I’m ~gone get richer~/
thru any `means`, with that `thing` that 'Malcolm' ~palmed in the picture~/
never read the ~Quran~ or ~Islamic Scriptures~/
only ~psalms~ I read, was on the ~arms of my niggas~/
tattooed so I ~carry on~ like I’m ~non-religious~/
clap whoever stand between ~Shawn and figures~/
niggas, say it’s the `don`, but I’m ~superstitious~/
shit is as dark as it’s been, nothing is going as ~you predicted~/
I ~move wit biscuits~, stopped the harder niggas acting ~too suspicious~/
~this is~, food for thought, you ~do the dishes~/

Music Major

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Look how eloquent the rock listeners are compared to the rap fans. Any music that doesnt use instruments or a range of vocals is worthless. If you’re going to listen to rap, put on some Atmosphere or The Roots... G-Unit, Diddy, Jay-Z... doing what they do doesn’t take any exemplary amount of talent, unless you consider the ability to express yourself talent, in which case your opinion doesn’t matter because you’re a moron. Of course music is all preference, but those of you who listen to mainstream rap with such passion don’t rate too much higher than N*Sync and Britney Spears fans in the eyes of people who know anything about music. Oh, and just as a final note... Rap wouldn’t exist without rock, so in order to have a valid point, you rap enthusiasts better appreciate your roots. Otherwise you’re just ignorant. The end.

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-one thing rap is, is hard. A lot harder than it needs to be whih is why they end getting shot so much...it’s really sad

Thadeus

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Rock, and most of its subgenres, at least the good ones, take serious skill to both perform and synchronize with other instruments, whereas in rap you can take a beat (someone else made), add the words “bought new shoes”, repeated 52 times over an additional bass riff, and voila, you have a rap/hiphop song. Those of you, particularly DestinyGuy678, who say that rap is better because the rapper or “artist” talks about his real life, have shallow perceptions as to what music is and should be. There is relatively no inspiration in most rap/hiphop “songs”, as well usually with derivative and tiring themes and lyrics. Rock, on the other hand, isn’t limited by lyrical content, and can encompass various styles. If you’ve ever listened to System of a Down, with an unbiased mind, and compared their work to rap or hiphop of any sort, you would recognize the difference in personal skill and ability between the band and that of the black music. Most of the songs' lyrics have different interpretations available by the listener, and by not being limited to the experience of one man’s life can inspire listeners with different themes and points of view on various perspectives, if you gave it any intellectual thought. As well, don’t compare rock to Greenday or Blink182. Because those two bands suck.

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Have you looked at some of the rock guys' posts?



Like this dude?

turds

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please tell me how with out rock there would be no rap just because something was out first does not mean it played a pivotal point in the develop of rap because it did not. rap owes it’s creation to funk,and soul which those genres did not have any influence from rock. it is the other way around.

turds

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just read this verse face fuck and tell me it does not take skill

The theme song to the 'Sopranos', plays in the ~key of life~/
on my 'mental piano', got a strange way of -seeing life-/
like I知 'Stevie Wonder' wit beads under the du-rag/
~intuition is there~ even when my ~visions impaired~/
knowing I can go, jus ~switching a spare~, on the Highway of life/
nigga resharpen my 'sight', OH/
~keen senses~ ever since i was a...~teen on the benches~/
everytime somebody like ~Enus was mentioned~/
I would turn green, me, ~being in the trenches~, him livin ~adventurous~/
nothing worrying about ~expenditures~/
I知 raising 'temperatures~ ~below Zero~, ~no hero~/
no `father figure`, u gotta `pardon a nigga`/
but I知 `starvin' my niggas`, the `weightloss in my figure`, ~startin to darken my heart~/
bout to get my `liver`/
watch it my niggas I知 tryn be `calm`, but I知 ~gone get richer~/
thru any `means`, with that `thing` that 'Malcolm' ~palmed in the picture~/
never read the ~Quran~ or ~Islamic Scriptures~/
only ~psalms~ I read, was on the ~arms of my niggas~/
tattooed so I ~carry on~ like I知 ~non-religious~/
clap whoever stand between ~Shawn and figures~/
niggas, say it痴 the `don`, but I知 ~superstitious~/
shit is as dark as it痴 been, nothing is going as ~you predicted~/
I ~move wit biscuits~, stopped the harder niggas acting ~too suspicious~/
~this is~, food for thought, you ~do the dishes~/

better than that fucking suicidal music you listen to faggot.

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turds, you’re a retard. =/

Ellie05

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Well it doesn’t take skill, it just isn’t as stupid as a lot of other rap, that’s all. And we are all just so hurt that you threw the suicidal thing back at us.

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lyrics takes imagination

playing guitar like Slash takes effort.

turds

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ur right rap artist do not put effort in there music not as much as rockers there is not shitty rock music it is all great rock is so awesome some of you guys. i heard that rage against the machine remake of an old rakim song and was disgusted of how horrible the song was it made me angry.

they should leave great music alone and stick to remakes of lynard skynard or some other gay rock band.

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you have just proved yet again you are a retard =/

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Wow!,and they said that rap fans defended their genre of music better than the rock fans did. This guy is just pathetic.

There’s three puncutaions in that quote instead there should be like, 7.

Theres no doubt that the only Rap fans on this topic anymore are fucking RETARDS.

Last edited 27 Oct 2006 05:18 pm by Brutus Kicks Ass