| 22 Feb 2006 08:28 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3  Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | "What I said was that God IS a creative force, and anything beyond that, like the finer details, is unknown/unknowable. But anyone who believes God doesn’t exist is mistaken in that there is a creative intelligent force (and nature) that IS Life itself. To deny that is ignorant."
And do you know why God would create the universe and how God can simply exist when the universe cannot. It is ignorant to believe in something for which you have no reliable evidence or reasons for. ---
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 22 Feb 2006 08:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | You did say “the basic percept of god” though. So I apoligize for misunderstanding. ---
The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 01:12 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0  Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | "So he treats people differently. He’s letting some people use their conscience and some of them can’t. Yeah real, fair loving and equal eh?"
YES! That is proof of how just God is! It wouldn’t be fair to send everyone before the Law of Moses and before Jesus to Hell.
“And do you know why God would create the universe and how God can simply exist when the universe cannot. It is ignorant to believe in something for which you have no reliable evidence or reasons for."
I answered this in another topic, the one where you asked those 12 questions just recently. ---
“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:30 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Someone who cares.... wrote:
“So he treats people differently. He’s letting some people use their conscience and some of them can’t. Yeah real, fair loving and equal eh?"
YES! That is proof of how just God is! It wouldn’t be fair to send everyone before the Law of Moses and before Jesus to Hell.
“And do you know why God would create the universe and how God can simply exist when the universe cannot. It is ignorant to believe in something for which you have no reliable evidence or reasons for."
I answered this in another topic, the one where you asked those 12 questions just recently.
Okay so one person can grow up believing in killing others and get away with it. Because he has never been introduced to anything else that can more strongly influence the individual, his conscience is perfectly fine with it. He goes to heaven. Now next door is Bob. Bob is a good guy. He works for the hospital. He’s a doctor. He’s saved hundreds of patients in his life. But he’s going to hell because as sad as it is, Bob is agnostic. And your trying to tell me that God would live the murderer rather than Bob. How sad.
The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 06:19 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | God only loves (if he loves at all) out of a force of violence, and bigotry. he demands to be loved unconditionally Forcing someone to suffer for not returning your love is cruel, spiteful and petty. Society considers such behavior evil enough to enact laws to prevent it. ---
Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 24 Feb 2006 07:58 pm |
why_me Guest | Once again weasel is barking up the wrong tree...
God loves all, and punishes so that you could learn from your mistakes. He is “kinda like” a father, with lots of naughty children. He loves them all, and wants them to repent. So he spanks them so that they would get that evil is wrong. Understand? | |
| 24 Feb 2006 08:03 pm |
why_me Guest | And to answer the question you are about to throw at me-
NO! God created his children. He did not have any sexual relations. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 08:12 pm |
why_me Guest | Black hydra-
God is the master of our concience. He would let the given individual know that murder is bad. But if he keeps on murdering, he pretty much wore out his concience, and it does not bug him/her anymore, even though it is wrong. But at some point in his life, he did know that it was wrong, but his own decisions led to his downfall.
As for Bob- good deeds don’t give us a ticket to heaven. But believing in Jesus Christ, and worshiping him to our fullest extent does. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 08:15 pm |
why_me Guest | Yet there were some cases, when a murderer believed in christ right before he was put to death. Those murderers did go to heaven. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 09:17 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | you know what i think.
I think you are professor using a different name to make it seem like christens are the majority on this site.
that’s what i think. ---
Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 24 Feb 2006 10:43 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Weasel 16 wrote:
you know what i think.
I think you are professor using a different name to make it seem like christens are the majority on this site.
that’s what i think.
lol, whether it is or not is irrelevant. He’s full of shit. It’s untrue that god would tell the person who’s murdering people that he’s wrong. The person doesn’t understand the concept of god because he’s never been introduced to it. There is no argument here. This is according to Christianity, he’s going to heaven. He’s doing what he’s been brought up to believe and what his conscience tells him.
The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 10:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | "Okay so one person can grow up believing in killing others and get away with it. Because he has never been introduced to anything else that can more strongly influence the individual, his conscience is perfectly fine with it. He goes to heaven. Now next door is Bob. Bob is a good guy. He works for the hospital. He’s a doctor. He’s saved hundreds of patients in his life. But he’s going to hell because as sad as it is, Bob is agnostic. And your trying to tell me that God would live the murderer rather than Bob. How sad."
You’ve got it all wrong. A murderer would not go to Heaven unless he repented. Your conscience would tell you it’s wrong, your friends would tell you it’s not right, so doing so would be wrong, and you would know it. You think a murderer’s conscience is okay with him killing mindlessly? I don’t think so. I think he knows he is doing wrong, but he has soooo much hate, or envy, or a bad memory, that he continues to do it. He would not go to Heaven. ---
“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 24 Feb 2006 10:57 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Someone who cares.... wrote:
“Okay so one person can grow up believing in killing others and get away with it. Because he has never been introduced to anything else that can more strongly influence the individual, his conscience is perfectly fine with it. He goes to heaven. Now next door is Bob. Bob is a good guy. He works for the hospital. He’s a doctor. He’s saved hundreds of patients in his life. But he’s going to hell because as sad as it is, Bob is agnostic. And your trying to tell me that God would live the murderer rather than Bob. How sad."
You’ve got it all wrong. A murderer would not go to Heaven unless he repented. Your conscience would tell you it’s wrong, your friends would tell you it’s not right, so doing so would be wrong, and you would know it. You think a murderer’s conscience is okay with him killing mindlessly? I don’t think so. I think he knows he is doing wrong, but he has soooo much hate, or envy, or a bad memory, that he continues to do it. He would not go to Heaven.
He hasn’t been introduced to the thought of repentence.Don’t you get it? He doesn’t know what god is. He doesn’t know anything about it. His conscience is based off of instincts and what he’s been brought up as. God has never been introduced. He doesn’t understand the meaning of right and wrong. I have to go. Bye
The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:01 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Actually I lied. After this I have to go. Now, SWC tell me the math behind building a NASA rocket engine. What’s that? You have no idea what the math behind building a NASA rocket engine is? Could that be because you’ve never been introduced to it? Well same with the killer I’ve been describing. ---
The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:06 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | About your killer. He doesn’t have to know God and religion to have a conscience which helps him distinguish right from wrong. It’s in all of us. When you want to steal something, your conscience tells you not to, when you want to kill, your conscience tells you not to, etc... ---
“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:20 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | oh cool! so you dont need god at all! ---
Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:23 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | *shakes head*
Weasel, Weasel. You come to the wrong conclusions. We were talking about a person who never heard of Jesus or the Law of Moses or God, like people before that time, or people in wild jungles in Indian tribes. If you have heard about Jesus and God, you have to have God to be saved. ---
“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:28 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | "Weasel, Weasel. You come to the wrong conclusions. We were talking about a person who never heard of Jesus or the Law of Moses or God, like people before that time, or people in wild jungles in Indian tribes. If you have heard about Jesus and God, you have to have God to be saved."
I tell you what, I will give you a list of things i don’t want you to do, and on that list i will include using my name two times in a row.
if you flow the list i will not say things like “Fuck god”.
“If you have heard about Jesus and God, you have to have God to be saved."
that is called double standards. somthing that is not typical to godly beings. ---
Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:31 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | Jesus is God. And Jesus said in the New Testament that no one can come to God but through Jesus. Jesus is the bridge between God and us. ---
“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 24 Feb 2006 11:33 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | Why are you changing the subject? ---
Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
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