| 07 Feb 2006 11:27 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1 Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Well that’s it, Agnostics, Christians, Jews, Catholics, whatever. Express your beliefs and tell us why they are true. Let the debate begin.
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| 07 Feb 2006 11:37 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Since I won’t be back until tomorrow, I’ll start off. I am agnostic. As far as I’m concerned, no religion has ever had any sort of proof of anything they have supposedly encountered. Also, if all these religions are true, then why did they all just suddenly pop up at the same time? And please no one tell me that humans didn’t evolve. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/02/0216_050216_omo.html Go to that for a start, if you think for some reason you need more, just ask me.
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| 07 Feb 2006 11:49 am |
why so ser- shut the fuck up. Rep: 35 Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,542 OFFLINE | I’m Humanist and Unitarian Universalist. Humanists don’t really worship in an all powerful Lord (even though they can) but rather respect other humans as they respect you. Unitarian Universalism is a lot like Humanism, but in that church there are people who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Agnostic, etc. But they all get along because they all apreciate eachother.
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| 07 Feb 2006 11:55 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | That’s really interesting. I can easily get along with a humanist, the entire idea just doesn’t make sense to me. In fact, I’m not very familiar with the idea of it at all. I only know one humanist and from discussions with her the only things that I’ve gathered of her beliefs is that humans should be good to each other. Is there any way you could sort of discuss your beliefs so that I could better understand them?
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| 07 Feb 2006 12:03 pm |
why so ser- shut the fuck up. Rep: 35Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,542 OFFLINE | Other than that there really is none. A lot of Humanists don’t believe in a God but some do. The main concept is treating all humans with the respect they deserve. You can look up Humanism at wikipedia.org
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| 07 Feb 2006 12:05 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | But isn’t it fair to say that respect is something that’s subjective? For instance, someone might feel like they deserve respect and maybe I don’t.
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| 07 Feb 2006 12:10 pm |
why so ser- shut the fuck up. Rep: 35Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,542 OFFLINE | You treat them with the respect they deserve. Pretty much, you treat them the way you think they should be treated. Everyone deserves respect, but it’s how much.
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| 07 Feb 2006 12:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Interesting, I don’t think I’m a humanist though. I believe to strongly in subjectivity.
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| 07 Feb 2006 03:04 pm |
myst7426 Guest | Atheist here. There is no evidence that the Bible, Quran, Veda, Tripitaka, Avesta, Koijiki, Siddhanta, Mostly Holy Book, Lun, and the Guru Granth Sahib are nothing more than guidelines for a peaceful, succesful society and not the word of God(s).
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| 07 Feb 2006 03:07 pm |
myst7426 Guest | And those are only current religions that have holy books.
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| 07 Feb 2006 06:19 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | I prefer Karma, it really makes sense to me, that and its pritty much the only thing i cold find that says that all things have a life force that can not be destroyed.
Good for me because Christans think Weasels have no sole.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Feb 2006 06:35 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0  Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 10 OFFLINE | I dunno... my mom is trying to raise me a Jehovah’s Witness (I have to go in ten minutes, actually, to go to chruch), but I’m really not into it. There’s an interesting article about them here, if you don’t know what they are:
http://libertyunbound.com/archive/2003_10/cox-truth.html
Anyways, since I’ve had “The One True Religion” (which reminds me so much of LotR for some reason), I’m feeling kinda “whatever” about religion. I mean, I’ve got no problem with other people having their religion, as long as it’s not hurting anyone, or being shoved down other peoples throats.
I might decide to do the religion thing when I’m older, but for now I’m an apathetic agnostic - I don’t know, and I don’t care.
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| 07 Feb 2006 06:42 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0 Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | "Good for me because Christans think Weasels have no sole."
Weasel, you’re not a real animal weasel. You are a human and you do have a soul. Stop kidding, all humans have a soul, and if you were not a human, you wouldn’t be able to type so that we can still understand you.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 07 Feb 2006 06:47 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | "Weasel, you’re not a real animal weasel”
your right, im more of a hybrid, still the Weasel DNA is more prevalent, that’s why i look like one.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Feb 2006 06:48 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 10 OFFLINE | See, and that’s what I don’t like about religion. When other people *force* their religion on you, because it’s the 'only right one'. Whether or not they’re doing it with good intentions, it turns off a lot of people.
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| 07 Feb 2006 07:39 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | Look, I can’t force my religion on anyone. Because I can’t make a person repent or love God. It is impossible to do that. I’m just telling you guys about it because I want you all to come to Heaven with me. I love you guys and don’t want to see any of you burning in Hell. I’m still praying for all of you. May God bless you all richly!
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 07 Feb 2006 07:40 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | "May God bless you all richly!"
you too
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Feb 2006 07:42 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | Thank you. No one has ever said that to me here on these forums, all I hear is cuss words and yelling and arguments.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 07 Feb 2006 07:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | that’s because you never take the time to realize that not all nonbelievers are bad evil people who need to be saved, for the most part there just average people trying to live day by day, and i sure would be nice if they didn’t have to walk the streets and be ridiculed be Christians for being of different faiths.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Feb 2006 07:49 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | Oh no, here it goes again...
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
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