"Yep. That justifies GODS decision, because he can. Wow. We don’t have free will if everything we do is predetermined either."
It was NOT predetermined. You do not coprehend the fullness of God’s supreme power. God made what you now consider to be time, and decision, and choice. Can not God know what you are going to do, while it still being your choice? What is not logical, is not always unacheivable. Remember that.
Anomynous_person wrote:
“Yep. That justifies GODS decision, because he can. Wow. We don’t have free will if everything we do is predetermined either."
It was NOT predetermined. You do not coprehend the fullness of God’s supreme power. God made what you now consider to be time, and decision, and choice. Can not God know what you are going to do, while it still being your choice? What is not logical, is not always unacheivable. Remember that.
IT IS FUCKING PREDETERMINED! God supposedly knows everything we will ever do and we don’t. He knows how we will end up. He is just waiting for it to happen. So it is predetermined.
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That’s a contradiction... it’s so obvious... no matter how much you say it isn’t doesn’t make it so... you have provided no reasons as to why an all knowing being can exist and yet we can still make a decision... all you say is that it is possible... well how is it possible...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
Yes God chose that desicion for me if he exists... I may have thought that I had other options but I could not have picked them... If God exists and is all knowing than i am being forced to type this right now... i may not know that but that doesn’t mean that it is not happening...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
No, I chose. But god knew what I would chose, because he is ominous. If Had ultimate control over everything, he would have chosen not to make lucifer. But he made him because everyone has his own choice.
No, I chose. But god knew what I would chose, because He is ominous. If He had ultimate control over choices, he would have chosen not to make lucifer. But he made him because everyone has his own choice. But God does have control over not giving us liberty, but he by his nature must give liberty because that is part of Love, and Godliness.
No God chose that for you... you just didn’t know that god chose your decision for you... you only THOUGHT that you were making a choice while really it had already been made...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
its REALLY unlikely that our fate is constantly predsetined, god is omnipotent and its most likely that we all have multiple decisions but he can basically look ahead on the timeline and because of his power predict every possible outcome of your life...thats the way i look at it...
you do have a choice, its just that god can see every possible choice, much like a chessmaster can see every possible move in a chess game...think about it...
or everything we do could be predestined and we just dont know about it, but you dont really know for sure now do you?
more or less im sticking to my first conclusion...
Anomynous_person wrote:
God knew what I would do, but I had full control of it. His all-knowingness did not alter my liberty.
No you only think that you made a choice... you believe that in your mind you could have chosen to do something else... well you really couldn’t you were destined to do what you did if God is all knowing... And yes his all knowingness eliminated your liberty you just don’t know that it is gone...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
Do you think we are programmed robots ??
When someone asks you , “do you want ice cream ?? Chocolate or vanilla ?"
Do you say , “oh wait I am being programmed to say that I really want chocolate , even though I hate the taste of it ... "
Uh no , I think its your CHOICE to have either chocolate or vanilla .. you can go blaming all your daily choices and sins on someone else .. its your OWN choice .. thats why you have a brain .
Think about it , if you were already 'predestined' to make choices and to make sins .. then why the heck would you have a brain ??
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Do you think we are programmed robots ??
When someone asks you , “do you want ice cream ?? Chocolate or vanilla ?"
Do you say , “oh wait I am being programmed to say that I really want chocolate , even though I hate the taste of it ... "
Uh no , I think its your CHOICE to have either chocolate or vanilla .. you can go blaming all your daily choices and sins on someone else .. its your OWN choice .. thats why you have a brain .
Think about it , if you were already 'predestined' to make choices and to make sins .. then why the heck would you have a brain ??
thank you for clarifying a couple of things i neglected and putting things in a compeltly different sense...
This is getting kinda lame... We as humans are in a kinda timeline, right. What we do becomes the past, and what we are going to do is the future. Am I not correct? God is not in this type of time-line situation. For he created what we refer to days, and nights. God sees what we are, are going to be, have been, from heaven. BUT, he does not go into the timeline and change the order of things. He sees the fate of everything, but we make it possible. We are the ones that do the actions. God is out there watching us, like TV. He knows what will happen in the movie, we don’t. But we are the ones in the movie that create the timeline. We make, what God sees. God does not make our choices. But he knows what it is going to happen. The people he sees in the movie, had their choises and liberties. But because he is infinite, he knows how it will all come out. Understand?
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Do you think we are programmed robots ??
When someone asks you , “do you want ice cream ?? Chocolate or vanilla ?"
Do you say , “oh wait I am being programmed to say that I really want chocolate , even though I hate the taste of it ... "
Uh no , I think its your CHOICE to have either chocolate or vanilla .. you can go blaming all your daily choices and sins on someone else .. its your OWN choice .. thats why you have a brain .
Think about it , if you were already 'predestined' to make choices and to make sins .. then why the heck would you have a brain ??
Umm I don’t think you get it...
you do not know that you are not making a choice... it’s not like your actions are being told to you... You only believe that you are making a decision... You are not aware that you are being forced to make a desicion... but you still are... and besides you are the one who said God was all knowing... and i don’t know why God gave us a brain perhaps because he likes toying with us did you ever think of that...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
Anomynous_person wrote:
This is getting kinda lame... We as humans are in a kinda timeline, right. What we do becomes the past, and what we are going to do is the future. Am I not correct? God is not in this type of time-line situation. For he created what we refer to days, and nights. God sees what we are, are going to be, have been, from heaven. BUT, he does not go into the timeline and change the order of things. He sees the fate of everything, but we make it possible. We are the ones that do the actions. God is out there watching us, like TV. He knows what will happen in the movie, we don’t. But we are the ones in the movie that create the timeline. We make, what God sees. God does not make our choices. But he knows what it is going to happen. The people he sees in the movie, had their choises and liberties. But because he is infinite, he knows how it will all come out. Understand?
exactly, just like my chessmaster is to chess as god is to life theory.(btw i just made up that name off the top of my head)
okay so you have a little mental problem and think that your choices you make everyday arn’t really your own choices ??
Sorry mate thats your problem .
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