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Defining a Revolution: "There Comes a Time in Every Market Where a Revolution is Needed"-Zucas

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28 Mar 2006 10:11 pm
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I have done an audio analysis on my site in which the link is in my quote.

I did an indepth analysis of a prediction I found and of Nintendo’s philosophy. And I feel that more meaning comes from reading it so I’ll post exactly what I said. It is a very intriguing analysis into what Nintendo is trying to accomplish and why they are doing it. It is a really good read:


“Before you clicked on this podcast I put up a prediction I found on the web. Now because some might be offended about what it says I will not give you a link but that is what it said. I did not write.

But look at what it says. It states that without Nintendo that in 3 years the gaming industry will crash. Now it’s not saying that if Nintendo drops out of the console race will the market crash. It is saying without the ideals and innovation Nintendo is trying to push would cause it to crash. So without a Revolution, in really big quotations the industry would freeze and crash.

But this may be hard to understand. But the thought by many people is why we need to change the industry. Good question. Why should we ever try to change a market? I mean really. They never do it in any other markets. And that my friends are where you are wrong.

There comes a time in every market where a REVOLUTION is needed. When I hear people say that nothing needs to be changed but then I see them longing over a HDTV all I can think is one word. HIPPOCRITE. Seriously. You can’t support one revolution but then not except another. So why are people so unwilling to except Nintendo’s philosophy. Why do they go along with all these other Revolutions yet not this one? Is it because they are biased. Well they are but I think it goes deeper. Is it because they are afraid. Well they probably don’t want change but I think they can handle it. Or is it just because they don’t understand the reasoning and necessity that is needed in this industry?

Well we are going to go with the 3rd one because that is what the prediction was trying to say. So to understand this prediction and Nintendo’s “Revolution” you need to understand why Revolutions come about and why they are needed. You need to understand why 90% of the time they are successful.

So let’s go over some Revolutions. First of all Revolution don’t just happen in product saling markets. They come throughout history in philosophy, politics, people, technology, ect. They come in everything. So to Define a Revolution we need to go over the backbone of them.

Revolutions is basically a big change in they way things used to be. Here are a few examples. One of the most influential Revolutions of the last millennium would be the Renaissance. Before the Renaissance a lot of the artists were very anti classical. They didn’t do things like the Greeks and Romans didn’t use to do. But when the Renaissance came about all of a sudden there was a change in the thought process and the art. All of a sudden art started to show more meaning. Art just revolutionized and made art a big thing. That is a Revolution in the Fine Arts.

Another Revolution is the Enlightenment. The enlightenment is a great example. The way people think just changed. Before many people were not making huge advances in technology, they weren’t questioning how things were in politics. No one before questioned divine right. No one did any of this until after a few historical events made people start to think. You know maybe this guy isn’t king because god wanted him to be. Maybe government should be run this way. This is an example of a very successful Revolution in the areas of Philosophy and Politics. Actually our American Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence ideals all come from thinkers from this time period.

Another Revolution is the Protestant Reformation. Before this the thought was that you didn’t read the bible. The Catholic church told you what the bible said and you couldn’t question it. They were your interpreters and you believed what they said. Then this thing came up and all of a sudden people start to ask and question. They are saying they want to read the bible. They say things like how do I know what you are saying is actually what is written. This Revolution was so successful that it created a whole new branch of religion called the Protestants. This revolution triggered people to think for themselves. To read and interpret their own beliefs and faith for themselves. This Revolution took its place in the categories of Religion and Philosophy.

So let’s get into more modern times. But first a Revolution so big that the word is even in the name. The Industrial Revolution is one of the biggest revolutions of the millennium. This one was so influential that the ideas have been carried on and evolved and are used today. The industrial revolution changed the way we performed business. There were no more people trading and everything. Now people could centrally locate to make things and all in one place. You didn’t have to travel around to get the sheep. Then to give it to a person who weaves. Now all of that could be done in one location and efficiency went up. This brought out a whole new way of performing business quickly and efficiently. This is an extremely successful revolution in business, philosophy, and technology.

So I could go on an on with all these revolutions. But let’s look at ones in the markets today. All of a sudden people stopped using A Tracks and and Records. They started moving to CD’s as the media source. The format that we listen to music on changed or revolutionized. Without a revolution in the media we would still be listening to records.

MP3 players changed the way we listen to music portably. It didn’t evolve. Don’t get confused. It destroyed and disrupted one market by introduction a totally new market. Sound familiar.

And these go on and on. So now we go to the Revolution. Nintendo is posing new ideas all that would do to what all of these things did. They are always talking about disrupting and destroying one market to change it into to something else. Something better. Something that could last until the next big thing came out.

They are stating things that the industry needs a change. That for too long the industry has stayed the same. That if it stays that way there will be a huge decline.

So Nintendo’s philosophy is compiled of 2 things. The 2 things are to start a revolution. To do this they are going to let out a new type of product that they believe will totally disrupt the market that was there but create something totally new.

So now we look back and we see what has happened throughout history. Something totally new has come out. It took out the other market our ideal and replaced it with theirs. Sound familiar.

So now that we completely understand what Nintendo is trying to do and how history supports that let’s go back to the prediction. This is a really simple prediction. It is predicting that if nothing new comes into the market it will crash.

Well from your infinite knowledge after hearing this wouldn’t you agree. If records was still the media format don’t you think sooner or later the market would have crashed. If CD players was the portable music player still that in a few years it would crash. Don’t you think if SDTV’s was still the standards that in 10 years it would crash.

So wouldn’t you agree that if same gaming consoles that repetively remade with higher graphical abilities was still here the next few years that the market would crash. The prediction has shown that if the market doesn’t change it will crash. So with all your previous knowledge wouldn’t you agree?

So that is what Nintendo’s philosophy backbone is coming off of and that is what this prediction is stating. It says that if nothing new comes into the market just like every other market it will crash. The funny thing about markets that if something stays in for too long that is good everyone jumps in on it. And soon too many of it is there and it gets boring. So something new needs to come in to restart the whole market. This is called the Business cycle. In every market there is a time of surplus and then right after a time of decline. To fix the decline something revolutionary must be placed.

Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that Nintendo’s Revolutions are going to be what disrupts and destroys this market and turns it into a different direction. I’m not saying that. But I am saying that what Nintendo is trying to do is what history says it should do. By looking at history of markets and life itself it is supported. The Revolution could be a total failure but it will put the market in going the right direction cause the damage will be done the process will have been already been put into affect. It will be unstoppable then.

So this is my analysis of not only the prediction that I showed you but also why Nintendo chose to go the route it did. Hopefully you can show a little more respect into what Nintendo is trying to accomplish. Nintendo is on the right but let’s hope that they can accomplish there goal. Nintendo is not trying to start something new for the hell of it. They have reasons and history in this market and of this world has proved that they are doing the right thing. AS the old saying goes if we don’t learn from history we are doomed to repeat our mistakes. This is a chance to learn from history and keep a market on track.
So thanks for listening. This is Zucas and this is my in-depth analysis of Nintendo and what they were trying to accomplish. Think about what was said.

So just one last word. Once Nintendo incorporates this into the market it will be unstoppable. No one could stop the Renaissance from happening or the Enlightenment or the Reformation and no one will be able to stop a Revolution."



I hope you enjoyed reading it. Please post your thoughts on it.

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29 Mar 2006 09:56 am
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Nicly done...

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29 Mar 2006 10:27 pm
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Thank you for your comments. I’m glad you liked what I wrote.

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29 Mar 2006 10:40 pm
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Zucas

The gaming industry is at an all time high.Online has boosted gaming extremely high over the last 2 years.Online gaming is the wave of the future in gaming.If there was no online than maybe the gaming industry would decline sooner or later,but thanks to MS for making online it has revived gaming to an all time high.Nintendo has nothing to do with this.If anything,nintendo will disrupt the market,and make things confusing,and this is why i think they are gonna fail.HD graphics and online is the wave of the future,or blu-ray however you like to put it.Why can’t you understand this?

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actualy, the number of gamers is declining.

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29 Mar 2006 11:08 pm
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NONONONONO you guys are sadly mistaken.

Talk facts,not what you want to believe idiots.

Read this
[url]http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php[/url]

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29 Mar 2006 11:13 pm
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ok, sales are up, but the # of gamers is down (last i herd) that means there are fewer, but more devoted fans.

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29 Mar 2006 11:41 pm
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kev360 wrote: ok, sales are up, but the # of gamers is down (last i herd) that means there are fewer, but more devoted fans.


It is impossible to ever know if less gamers are playing.You can only assume more are because sales are up.Makes sense right?Thank you!

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30 Mar 2006 12:10 am
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how could zucas have lost if he is not even here to argue? you have to argue against someone to beat them, so you will have to wait untill he comes on. you have to wait untill you hear someones reply before you claim victory over them.

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30 Mar 2006 09:21 pm
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Don’t know where you guys are getting your facts but gaming is at a decline. Yes the gaming population has grown but on the scale it is supposed to do that. It is supposed to be a growing percentage of gamers to sales. And that percentage is lower meaning that there are either more gamers who are buying less games or less gamers who are buying more games.

Either way it is saying that there is either a lot of hardcore gamers or there are more people who bought a console but don’t play it anyway.

Anyways gaming is declining. It is not going up at the rate it was supposed to and without the DS could have started going down. DS saved it from a decline. You say that innovation is not the wave of the future but without the most innovative handheld on the market gaming would be declining. So you guys need to pick a better arguement.

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30 Mar 2006 09:48 pm
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*moderated because of stupidy*

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yea, zucas fails at life

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Loca-Maca- i thought you were going to stay in the i played the rev.... now becouse you hated everyone or something.

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What?! I only told Tyreaus Rhade that! are you spying on my conversations?!?!?!?!

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i sorta surf the threads, and dont nessesarily post unless i see something that i realy want to reply to. then i start posting everywhere. so, there is always a chanse that i will be there, reading your every post. creaped out yet?

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loca just can’t stand the fact there’s only 4 nintendo haters, karloe tee, tony boy, loca, and elroy. karloe tee is also oddball is not cool.

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I was digging through some oldies, and this was a nice piece Zucas wrote that the readers now here should read. Pretty much everything you were saying has looked about right so far.

This was one of your best write ups.

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Yea and to think I wrote this to prove Malvolio wrong haha.

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Too much to read.

*goes off and plays Halo*

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