why wont god help me

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He only loves you if you tell him sorry for all the sins you ever did. Even though he made everyone imperfect, and incapable of not commiting sins.... That’s stupid. Sins are subjective too.

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unhappy kid wrote -“you dont know know me and how bad I have it”

Not to sound mean, but if you’re on the internet posting on movie codec, you’re better off than a lot of people. I could be wrong. Are you dying from incurable disease? Are you abused? Something else equally nefarious? If so I apologise for my insensitivity. But I had another thought: Instead of praying for something to happen, pray for the strength, will and resources to make it happen, and then try.

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Actually Weasel just such a thing happened in the bible. the Israelites were wandering around in the desert, starving. God did not ignore them but gave them Manna from heaven (See Exodus 16)
I’m pretty sure that if Moses had asked for a seven course meal God would have given it to him, but Moses being a good believer, just had to cry out and God provided for his NEEDS. Moses said that we just have to do what God asks of us and keep to his statues and laws and he will provide for us. ! It’s that simple, but many people try to make it alot harder.

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So in effect, god felt that Moses deserved more than others in similar situations. Although he loves us all equally, he gives more to some and less to others.

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"What things can’t I prove to be true? And even if I can’t, you still can’t prove the existence of the basis of everything we talk about, god. So that goes for you too. And stop forgiving me. Damnit, that pisses me off."

You said God is not real or not fair. You can’t prove that. And why do you have such a problem with me forgiving you? I, for one, feel good when people forgive me.


“I just want god to help one of his creations. is that so wrong?"


I don’t want to sound invasive or anything, but could you be a little more specific? Like do you want God to help someone get saved or something? Or to cure a person? Or to help a person with a problem?


“and why won’t God help he has everything... he could make anything and yet he won’t... we shouldn’t have to ask him he just should answer our prayers because he is supposed to be LOVING AND MERCIFUL..."



You have to have faith. I mean, let’s say you are someone rich, you can do anything you want, you have power, you have everything. And some poor person calls you on the phone and asks you to help him out with a money need. But that person doubts you even exist, he’s never even seen you. Would you want to help him out? He doesn’t believe you exist or that you can fulfill his need. Same with God, God can do anything. But if a person doubts His existence or His power, God won’t help him out. You need faith, and anything you ask in prayer with faith will be fulfilled. No doubting. Just pure, strong, child like, faith.

“Even though he made everyone imperfect, and incapable of not commiting sins.... That’s stupid. Sins are subjective too."


Man was good when he was created, he was on his way to living eternally. But man disobeyed God and listened to Satan and sinned and fell. That is when everyone after was born in sin.



“but if you’re on the internet posting on movie codec, you’re better off than a lot of people."



I heard that if you have a T.V. in your home, you are wealthier and better off than about 60% or so of the world’s population. And a computer with internet access is more expensive than a T.V. But we don’t know what the exact situation with unhappy kid is, so we cannot judge. But it would be good if you always thought, “it could be worse." Like if your house burns down, you survive, you should think, “It could have been worse and I could have also died." Or if you’re in the desert with no food, you should think, “at least I am still alive." Then life will look a lot better, you will feel more grateful for life and what you do have. I mean, if you can’t get yourself a car, think about the people in Africa who don’t even have a house and live in mud homes or carboard boxes and work all day for a piece of bread. Learn to be grateful for what you do have, your life will be a lot better, guaranteed.



“Although he loves us all equally, he gives more to some and less to others."



But if you don’t have such a big need, you can live without, and you don’t have faith, of course it will be different than for someone who is dying and has faith in God’s works to help him live!

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"Okay. Google Queen, I’m interrupting here. You can only believe something that your senses perceive as real. Maybe this is why I don’t believe in god yet. I cannot see god. I cannot hear god. I cannot taste god. I cannot smell god. I cannot feel god. These are the only senses I have. I have no other way of perceiving the existence of god, therefore, I cannot perceive in any way, shape, or form, god. Maybe that helps to make sense."



But you can believe in something your senses don’t percieve, with great faith! Faith, we need faith. Have faith. Faith, faith, faith.

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You justr can’t tell people right away to go to church or do something, pray for them, eventually God will fufill that prayer.

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"You have to have faith. I mean, let’s say you are someone rich, you can do anything you want, you have power, you have everything. And some poor person calls you on the phone and asks you to help him out with a money need. But that person doubts you even exist, he’s never even seen you. Would you want to help him out? He doesn’t believe you exist or that you can fulfill his need. Same with God, God can do anything. But if a person doubts His existence or His power, God won’t help him out. You need faith, and anything you ask in prayer with faith will be fulfilled. No doubting. Just pure, strong, child like, faith."

yeah well if someone calls me up for help then I dont expect to know them... if that was the case then nobody would ever help anyone besides their own family... plenty of strangers help other people and the people getting hellp probably don’t know where they got it from but they are gracious anyways... God should help us cause he is supposed to be generous... he shouldn’t expect anything else in return unless he is selfish... oh and to answer your question YES I would help the person out because I know they are in need... I don’t give a crap if they know me I would just want to help because I am a NICE CARING person... Why the hell does God care at all if we acknowledge him...

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God just does stuff aigghht !
I think you are trying to take the gnat out of biblical reality while the log is in yo mama’s eye.

Peace out my sheba’s. May moses and and the whole congregation of ZIon bless each and evry 1 of u’s.

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Okay and I thought gangbanger slang was bad. That sounded like you made half of everything you said up. Idiot.

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"YES I would help the person out because I know they are in need... I don’t give a crap if they know me "



No, they know you alright, you are famous and popular and rich, remember? But we are saying they don’t believe you will or can help them, when they ask for the help.

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Well then why are they asking... if they don’t believe I can help than why ask... however if they are asking and still don’t believe I can help than I guess I would prove them wrong... and help anyways... cause I am kind and generous...

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I’ll leave this between you two.

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Hey dark, can you bring back all the threads? I’m going to sleep now. Bring back some of the good topics since that little Timmy jackass fucked it all up. Thanks dark.

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"Well then why are they asking... if they don’t believe I can help than why ask... however if they are asking and still don’t believe I can help than I guess I would prove them wrong... and help anyways... cause I am kind and generous..."


See, that’s the point. Some people ask God to do things for them, without believing He will do it. Like this one story. An old woman had to walk around a mountain/hill to get to church from her house. And it tired her legs, since she was old. So one day, she prays to God and asks Him to move the mountain so she could get to church easier, and she related to the verse in the Bible where Jesus said if they would have faith they could move mountains. Then she went to sleep. The next morning, she looks out her window, and sees the mountain still there, and says, “Like I knew it." See, she didn’t have faith when praying to God, inside her heart, she believed God wouldn’t do it, and yet, she still asked.

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If god can interfere in our lives in any way, we don’t have free will.

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One’s free will cannot by any means remove another’s freedom in will.

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Let’s pretend I was walking to school and I planned on stopping by a friends house first. What if god decided to talk to me? That would change my future decisions which would change my my will. etc

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Ok, God talked to you. Now what? Did that make you have to not go to your friends house? Or were you still able to choose what to do?