| 22 May 2006 11:48 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1 Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | No god did not give free will. We do what god foresees us to do.
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| 26 May 2006 01:49 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0  Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | No, you have free will. God can see your future, why, God can see your whole life, before you were even born, like on a screen. It is all visible to Him, but He is not controlling it or making choices for you, you are the one who choses what to do. Did you try my experiments, about doing one thing, then the opposite of it, and the that which wasn’t even a choice?
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | |
| 27 May 2006 08:56 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | But God designed us to be that way.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 30 May 2006 12:38 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Snap.
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| 25 Aug 2006 02:47 am |
YY Guest | No I don’t believe Jesus is 'alive'. Nor do I believe in this facile story.
This “message” about the murderous Egyptian is nothing more than a LIE!
However, Deborah Kahlil’s husband VERIFIED the story... how could it POSSIBLY be a lie? As Everyone knows - Christians would NEVER tell a lie! {the cherry tree story is not true either, did you know!)
Well if the buried alive tale is not a lie then it IS the MOST amazing coincidence EVER that a VERY similar story was written the previous year.
Only in this EARLIER version, the Egyptian was a SYRIAN! You’ll find the story on a Lebanese web site! http://www.lebanese-forces.org/vbullet/showthread.php?t=8049&goto=nextnewest
Some Christians move in mysterious ways, their lying, cheating, practices to perform.
But what can you expect of Christians... People who would call a MERE _man_ their “god”! That is just another type of idolatry. God wou’t appreciate you worshiping a man, since God is _very_ jealous of his Exclusive ONEness. [All Rights Reserved]
“God is NOT a man” (yes that IS a quote from your bible!) God does _not_ DIE... not even partly, not even temporarily!
Early Christians did not generally believe that Jesus was God, though there were some that did hold this idea.
The truth is that there were MANY Christian belief systems - and it got the Romans really angry that Christians were so contentious - always arguing and fighting. (You will know them by their... arguments!).
If there was one thing the Romans insisted on, it was that the empire should be peaceful.
To ensure that would happen, the NON-Christian Emperor (who probably believed in Jesus as much as he did in all the 'other gods'!); called a council of the Christians' leaders.
He got tired of waiting 'forever' for them to reach a consensus on 'The TRUTH' (TM), so he sat them down and
decided the issues for them!
Man-gods, such as the demi-god Heracles, were quite acceptable in the Greco-Roman world. Therefore it was no
problem for him to decide that this is what Jesus would be.
Throw in some mumbo-jumbo about the ineffable mystery of the trinity - another recurring theme of polytheism, and you had the basis of the new 'christianity'.
Anyone disagreeing was branded a heretic and either killed or (at the very least) persecuted. This set the stage nicely for the inquisitions which would enter the historical stream a somewhat further on in the timeline.
A heretic is someone with different thoughts about religion than your thoughts).
This was the beginnings of the wholly 'holy' Catholic Church, the ruler of the known world for the next millenia or thereabouts.
But none of this mattered to most Christians - after all they didn’t really follow the observant Jew 'Jesus' - who left almost no teachings of his own. And of those he did, they were addressed to Jews _only_.
No they followed the highly assimilated apostate Jew Saul/Paul. [Let’s be charitable and say that S/Paul was just mentally unbalanced.]
The one who 'got' his religion in a weird vision while walking down the road one day!
The one who NEVER met... who never even SAW Jesus!
The one who apparently didn’t hear that Jesus supposedly said that he had NOT come to [teach] the non-Jews, but just those of his OWN religion.
The one who was rebuked by Jesus disciples for apparently teaching that Jews did not need circumcised! This was of course in direct contravention to what Jesus taught - “I have NOT come to abolish the Torah, but to fulfill it”.
The same S/Paul who meekly took Timothy to fulfil his ritual obligations. But once he was out of sight of the real followers of Jesus, the brothers and friends who had actually known him, and learned from him...
Well then he just did whatever he wanted, didn’t he! Made up what God 'said' to the [new concept here] 'church' as the
mood took him.
Now lets NOT have any of that really silly double-talk where you say that 'fulfill' really DID mean 'abolish', since Jesus fulfilled the Torah for all time. Because that would mean that God LIED when he said that the Torah was part of an EVERlasting covenant with his servants the Jews.
Gid said that no matter what _they_ did, HE would ALWAYS be faithful and keep his promise. For the sake of his own NAME he would NOT allow the Jewish people to fail in their tasks - if necessary he would finally force them to obey the holy laws he had given them.
God SAID he would -NEVER- reject his people.
No, I don’t want to hear any of that illogical nonsense about how Jesus was sacrificed in a one-time sin offering. Because Jesus was NOT the specific type of _FARM ANIMAL_ _REQUIRED_ for a sin offering.
Because NOTHING which ate meat was an acceptable sacrifice to God.
Because God had _expressly_ said that human sacrifice was not acceptable, IT WAS _ABSOLUTELY_ FORBIDDEN!
But “Jesus is in my HEART'! [So you CHOOSE to totally abandon REASON! Your option!]
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| 25 Aug 2006 10:58 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2 Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 2,480 OFFLINE | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
A: Learn to spell.
B: I have a penis, I am not a penis.
C: I am agnostic, I have no religion, it’s a belief.
 When did I ever say I had faith in god? Wasn’t that the point of everything I said before?
E: I don’t look at porn,
F: Get your facts straight you pathetic waste of matter.
Best. Comeback. Ever.
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| 26 Aug 2006 01:06 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | lol thanks.
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| 25 Sep 2006 01:48 pm |
mythbuster Guest | http://www.egyptiancastle.com/community/express_it/miracle.htm
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| 25 Sep 2006 01:50 pm |
mythbuster Guest | http://www.egyptiancastle.com/community/express_it/miracle.htm
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| 25 Sep 2006 02:53 pm |
Strange little girl Rep: 35 Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 6,759 | Thanks for sharing that with us mythbuster  . Although none of us actually believed the story (well except for SWC), it’s great to have confirmed that it was a fabrication.
It’s sad that people would use lies to promote religion....
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| 25 Sep 2006 03:22 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 2 Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | "It’s sad that people would use lies to promote religion...."
but oh so common...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 25 Sep 2006 04:01 pm |
Strange little girl Rep: 35Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 6,759 | dark99 wrote:
“It’s sad that people would use lies to promote religion...."
but oh so common...
Yes, unfortunately.
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| 07 Oct 2006 05:22 am |
Entree Rep: 0 Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 2 OFFLINE | Haven’t your God said that there can be other Gods. I’m not insulting or telling that your God meight be not sure...
I just can’t believe both stories. Why could not he rescue them in the first hand...
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| 07 Oct 2006 06:11 am |
Entree Rep: 0Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 2 OFFLINE | YY wrote:
“God is NOT a man” (yes that IS a quote from your bible!) God does _not_ DIE... not even partly, not even temporarily!
Early Christians did not generally believe that Jesus was God, though there were some that did hold this idea.
They are the Jews.
Actually Constantine changed that thing. Constantine made a God out of a human leader...
He made a new religion out of a story...
I’m not insulting...
That was a more acceptable story...
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| 07 Oct 2006 02:24 pm |
Silence is Deafening Rep: 19 Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 7,080 OFFLINE | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
Someone who cares.... wrote:
You think it’s lie because it says things you don’t want to believe in. Right?
I personally think it’s a lie because, like many of the other idiotic things you say, it doesn’t make sense. You never did answer my points I made earlier. And don’t forgive me. Please stop that. It pisses me off when you say, “I forgive you." In my personal opinion, I don’t feel it’s necessary to forgive me for anything because I think it’s only right for me to defend myself.
i think he says he forgives you because he knows it pisses you off...lol
anywho is it just me or is this guy always trying to force people into religion......SWC if people DON"T want to be chritians don’t try to make points to make it seem that the religion is the only way to connect with god....its stupid and pointless if a person is not in the mood to listen...besides everyone has personal belifes and that is wat makes this world amazing...peace out...
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| 07 Oct 2006 02:27 pm |
Silence is Deafening Rep: 19Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 7,080 OFFLINE | Etain wrote:
Thanks for sharing that with us mythbuster . Although none of us actually believed the story (well except for SWC), it’s great to have confirmed that it was a fabrication.
It’s sad that people would use lies to promote religion....
its not sad...its pathedic.....people will convert to a religion when they feel the time is right, not when they are forced to....
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"I doubt these guys even know that were not exactly well…serious about eating their children…”-Areian my Luv
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| 07 Oct 2006 02:56 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 2Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | or they will not convert at all...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 08 Oct 2006 10:40 pm |
Silence is Deafening Rep: 19Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 7,080 OFFLINE | dark99 wrote:
or they will not convert at all...
exactly
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"I doubt these guys even know that were not exactly well…serious about eating their children…”-Areian my Luv
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| 08 Feb 2007 11:42 am |
jimdis Guest | I also really want to know how true this is. Any legitimate source?
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| 08 Feb 2007 04:15 pm |
why so ser- shut the fuck up. Rep: 35 Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 15,542 OFFLINE | FUCK
WHY REVIVE THIS????
NO ONE LIKES THIS TOPIC
GAGH!
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