| 24 Apr 2006 10:14 am |
myst7426 Guest | But, but, the Qur’an says Jesus is not the son of God but rather of fully human Prophet sent from God to the Chosen People to spread God’s message.
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 | | 24 Apr 2006 11:40 am |
Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 379 OFFLINE | "I am one of those people going on the road to the gate of life, in other words heaven, that is because God has something instore for me, in fact all of us. "
Do not deem to know that you are on the road to the gate of life. You believe, and have faith, but you cannot KNOW.
“I am not trying to save others yet because I am still in the training mode of becoming a religious leader."
Be careful about choosing your words; you will NEVER be able to save anyone, whether you are a religious leader or not. Remember, the Bible teaches that only God can save. Preach the good news all you want, but “conversions” (I hate that word, but everyone understands the connotations) are made by the Holy Spirit, not you.
Rev. Storring
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KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. ARM YOURSELF | | | 24 Apr 2006 09:41 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1 Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | God is selfish too if that’s true reverend. That is why I still believe that everything is selfish to a point. How could god create selfishness if he didn’t have the knowledge of being selfish? And isn’t it selfish to only let himself save people?
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The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | | | 25 Apr 2006 01:46 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0 Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | People are selfish because of themselves and their choices and thier self lovingness. And God created us, thus He is the only one who can save us. It is not selfishness, you would not be without God. We are nothing without God. “God without man is still God, but man without God is nothing." We are dust and ashes before God. We cannot be saved without God’s grace and love. And only God is Holy and Clean, only He can save sinners, not any other sinner or an unclean person. A drowning man cannot save another drowning man. They need someone on shore who is able to reach them and help out. That is God. God can reach us and save us. We are saved by His grace, through faith.
“But, but, the Qur’an says Jesus is not the son of God but rather of fully human Prophet sent from God to the Chosen People to spread God’s message."
But the Bible says Jesus is the Son of God, and not only that, Jesus IS God. Read John chapter one, verse one. The “Word” in this passage is Jesus. And the Bible teaches the Trinity, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | | | 25 Apr 2006 01:51 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 0Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,149 OFFLINE | "Fed under the sand were they? Wow, that’s impressive. So Jesus kept them alive under the ground, with no oxygen, but he couldn’t manage to carry them up? Hmmm, this sounds like a lot of **** I’ve heard before."
Who says without oxygen? Nothing is impossible for God, Jesus is God. Jesus could have made a hole for oxygen to come in or something to the sort. Jesus could have carried them up. But who are you to criticize what Jesus decided to do? Jesus is God, He can do whatever He wants, however He wants to. Jesus knows what He is doing. Maybe feeding them instead of picking them up would be better for testimony.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“ | | | 25 Apr 2006 04:30 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | The whole story just sounds to much like the one about the alabama couple who claimed to see Jesus likeness in a glob of ketchup.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | | | 25 Apr 2006 04:34 pm |
myst7426 Guest | Someone who cares.... wrote:
People are selfish because of themselves and their choices and thier self lovingness. And God created us, thus He is the only one who can save us. It is not selfishness, you would not be without God. We are nothing without God. “God without man is still God, but man without God is nothing." We are dust and ashes before God. We cannot be saved without God’s grace and love. And only God is Holy and Clean, only He can save sinners, not any other sinner or an unclean person. A drowning man cannot save another drowning man. They need someone on shore who is able to reach them and help out. That is God. God can reach us and save us. We are saved by His grace, through faith.
“But, but, the Qur’an says Jesus is not the son of God but rather of fully human Prophet sent from God to the Chosen People to spread God’s message."
But the Bible says Jesus is the Son of God, and not only that, Jesus IS God. Read John chapter one, verse one. The “Word” in this passage is Jesus. And the Bible teaches the Trinity, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Allah is God! The Qur’an is real!
| | | 25 Apr 2006 05:05 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | are you a muslim?
if so do you think the US is the grate Satan?
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | | | 25 Apr 2006 05:08 pm |
myst7426 Guest | Weasel 16 wrote:
are you a muslim?
if so do you think the US is the grate Satan?
No, but I like to argue from their point of view when SWC throws out statements and then quotes the bible to support himself.
| | | 25 Apr 2006 06:03 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Someone who cares.... wrote:
People are selfish because of themselves and their choices and thier self lovingness. And God created us, thus He is the only one who can save us. It is not selfishness, you would not be without God. We are nothing without God. “God without man is still God, but man without God is nothing." We are dust and ashes before God. We cannot be saved without God’s grace and love. And only God is Holy and Clean, only He can save sinners, not any other sinner or an unclean person. A drowning man cannot save another drowning man. They need someone on shore who is able to reach them and help out. That is God. God can reach us and save us. We are saved by His grace, through faith.
“But, but, the Qur’an says Jesus is not the son of God but rather of fully human Prophet sent from God to the Chosen People to spread God’s message."
But the Bible says Jesus is the Son of God, and not only that, Jesus IS God. Read John chapter one, verse one. The “Word” in this passage is Jesus. And the Bible teaches the Trinity, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
That was ignorant as well SWC. If god is as all knowing as you claim he is, he should have given us the power to save others too. If he wasn’t selfish, he would’ve made us equal to him.
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The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | | | 25 Apr 2006 06:15 pm |
GOOOGLE_QUEEN Guest | he wouldn’t be god then if we were all equal .. then what would you debate about !?
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Nothing. I wouldn’t need to. I’d be perfect. I’d know everything.
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The farther you question, the more they will hate you. | | | 25 Apr 2006 06:20 pm |
GOOOGLE_QUEEN Guest | AH hah !! So you are saying good is perfect ??
So nothing in the world would be subjective because everyone would have the same voice , the same opinion , same everything ??
| | | 25 Apr 2006 06:52 pm |
MVC's Long Forgotten Rep: 6 Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,008 OFFLINE | The Revered wrote:
“I am one of those people going on the road to the gate of life, in other words heaven, that is because God has something instore for me, in fact all of us. "
Do not deem to know that you are on the road to the gate of life. You believe, and have faith, but you cannot KNOW.
“I am not trying to save others yet because I am still in the training mode of becoming a religious leader."
Be careful about choosing your words; you will NEVER be able to save anyone, whether you are a religious leader or not. Remember, the Bible teaches that only God can save. Preach the good news all you want, but “conversions” (I hate that word, but everyone understands the connotations) are made by the Holy Spirit, not you.
Rev. Storring
And if you are filled with the Holy Spirit, only holy things should be said out of your mouth.
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 | | | 25 Apr 2006 06:54 pm |
MVC's Long Forgotten Rep: 6Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,008 OFFLINE | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
Someone who cares.... wrote:
People are selfish because of themselves and their choices and thier self lovingness. And God created us, thus He is the only one who can save us. It is not selfishness, you would not be without God. We are nothing without God. “God without man is still God, but man without God is nothing." We are dust and ashes before God. We cannot be saved without God’s grace and love. And only God is Holy and Clean, only He can save sinners, not any other sinner or an unclean person. A drowning man cannot save another drowning man. They need someone on shore who is able to reach them and help out. That is God. God can reach us and save us. We are saved by His grace, through faith.
“But, but, the Qur’an says Jesus is not the son of God but rather of fully human Prophet sent from God to the Chosen People to spread God’s message."
But the Bible says Jesus is the Son of God, and not only that, Jesus IS God. Read John chapter one, verse one. The “Word” in this passage is Jesus. And the Bible teaches the Trinity, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
That was ignorant as well SWC. If god is as all knowing as you claim he is, he should have given us the power to save others too. If he wasn’t selfish, he would’ve made us equal to him.
God is afraid to give us the same power because he is afraid that people will use it not for holiness but for mischeif.
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| | | 25 Apr 2006 06:58 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 2 Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | and why shouldn’t we be afraid that God is using his powers for mischief it’s not like he’s been real responsible.. I mean creating the devil and all and then wiping out the world in a flood oh and let’s not forget that time he killed all of those innocent children just cause he was pissed... yeah he seems like a big old troublemaker...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
| | | 25 Apr 2006 07:54 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | God, afraid? omnipoint beings don’t get afraid! if he is afraid then he is not all knowing!
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | | | 25 Apr 2006 07:58 pm |
MVC's Long Forgotten Rep: 6Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,008 OFFLINE | Afraid meaning knowing what people will want to do but doesn’t want it to happen. Why do you atheists and other non-believers misjudge God?
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| | | 25 Apr 2006 08:34 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | I’m not misjudging his word, im judging yours, and you used the emotion fear to describe an omnipoint being.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | | | 25 Apr 2006 09:19 pm |
dead beat Guest | you know, one time i was taking a shit in a bathroom stall, and i noticed i ran out of toilet paper! then, i prayed to God, and a man dressed in white with scars kicked the bathroom stall door open and handed me toilet paper!!! im not lying.
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