| 25 Apr 2006 12:28 pm |
Senior member Rep: 10  Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | Fire Emblem Marth wrote:
LET ME GET THINGS STRAIGHT!!!
God let’s these miserable thing happen to punish them. (What these things are our nature’s disasters) When people worship idols, God gets angry and punishes them, then more people in that country turn to God. Understand?"
Yes, yes, God do hate sinners so much, he uses nature disasters to kill those sinners, even though God wants everyone to be saved and the nature disasters are just a part of natural and not really God’s judgement! Yep, God don’t really care for sinners. It must be fun to be a extremist Christian, carrying the burden of your regilon, be streesed out, even though God wants you to be free from the burden of regilon!
Sin is merely anything that separates you from God so watch out all fellow Christians for anything.
Sin merley separetes you? No, no my good friend, sin destory you, not separate you!
dude whatever, my god can kick your god ass.
don’t reply Because you know its the truth...
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| 25 Apr 2006 05:59 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Okay, since no one responded, I’ll say it again. Why would god let us have sins and then demand we say sorry for something we can’t help and then punish us if we don’t say sorry for something that isn’t our fault?
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:04 pm |
lonnnliness Guest | Because it might be good to learn to apologise for something even if we feel in our arrogant state of mind that it is not our responsibility that we did it.
What your basically saying is that becuase the goverment gives us the right to carry guns and somebody shoots somebody by accident and gets charged with manslaughter it should not be there fault as its the goverments responsibility for letting them carry guns.
Or say somebody goes sailing with there family and gets caught in a big storm and they are the only one to survive that it’s the sailors fault for taking his kids and that in fact it’s the storms fault for being a storm. the storm was just exercising free will, the sailor did not have to go on the water at that particular point in time, and i’ve forgotten what the relevance of this is but like YEH answer that dude ..
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:07 pm |
GOOOGLE_QUEEN Guest | Or like , “i never have a shower or wipe my bum because my mum used to do that for me when I was a baby so its her fault ."
Black Hydra - Where does god DEMAND we say sorry ??
.. for something we can’t help ?? I think being a sinner is a choice , and can definately be helped . You are responsible for your own actions and choices you make in life , are we looking for someone to blame all our sins on ?
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:08 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | It’s not our fault. It’s like me loading a gun, cocking it, and giving it to a little kid who doesn’t know what to do with it. Then when the kid fires and kills someone, claim that it’s their fault. It’s not. They didn’t do anything wrong. Don’t tell me that the person who gave the kid the gun should be punished because analogically, that’s what god did with humans and their sins. Should god be punished? Ofcourse not. Or should he? Or will any of us ever know?
And we wouldn’t have to apoligize of god didn’t give us sin to apoligize for.
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:10 pm |
lonnnliness Guest | GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Or like , “i never have a shower or wipe my bum because my mum used to do that for me when I was a baby so its her fault ."
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:14 pm |
GOOOGLE_QUEEN Guest | its not just apologizing , its repenting .
And no one has to repent or apologize !! To sin is a choice and for some , a way of life . No one is forcing them to repent for what they do , its their choice .
And about the kid who shot someone .. it being their fault is .. subjective is it not ?
Lonnliness - Why would you !?
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:15 pm |
lonnnliness Guest | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
It’s not our fault. It’s like me loading a gun, cocking it, and giving it to a little kid who doesn’t know what to do with it. Then when the kid fires and kills someone, claim that it’s their fault. It’s not. They didn’t do anything wrong. Don’t tell me that the person who gave the kid the gun should be punished because analogically, that’s what god did with humans and their sins. Should god be punished? Ofcourse not. Or should he? Or will any of us ever know?
And we wouldn’t have to apoligize of god didn’t give us sin to apoligize for.
A) are you a kid metaphorically ?
 Did god give us a loaded gun OR a garden of eden ?
C) Does God not suffer with us ?
D) Does God maybe have regrets ? “like oops, there go those humans again”
E) Does real love mean loving even those people who do bad things ?
F) Does redemption happen because God loves people ?
G) how many letters of the alphabet are there ?
h) i can''t really go on like this for much longer
I) okay that enough
J is fo jupiter
K is for Kippers
L is for LIfe eternal
M is for
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:15 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Wow what a choice. God gives us freedoms. God punishes us for using most of those freedoms. In the end, they weren’t freedoms. They were illusions. Bye
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:16 pm |
GOOOGLE_QUEEN Guest | .. MURPHY
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:17 pm |
lonnnliness Guest | lonnnliness wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Or like , “i never have a shower or wipe my bum because my mum used to do that for me when I was a baby so its her fault ."
I worry about you Google_Queen.
OH well nevermind. I think it’s because your australian. | |
| 25 Apr 2006 06:18 pm |
GOOOGLE_QUEEN Guest | Hydra that made no sense ... Black Hydra Xc wrote:
God punishes us for using most of those freedoms.
huh!? How does he punish us for using 'those' freedoms ?? .. and I don’t see how they were illusions ?
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:20 pm |
lonnnliness Guest | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
Wow what a choice. God gives us freedoms. God punishes us for using most of those freedoms. In the end, they weren’t freedoms. They were illusions. Bye
No mate its your freedom to be punished.
SADOMASOCHISM. Some people go in for that.
LIke they do stuff just to feel pain.
Or to give pain.
Twisted. Inverted.
You get what you give. or not.
It’s a real freedom, you just have to be strong enough to take what happens.
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:48 pm |
MVC's Long Forgotten Rep: 8 Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,030 OFFLINE | The Revered wrote:
“People living in sin are too proud of themselves to be ashamed of their sin."
Sounds like you’re too proud to admit that you’re a sinner like everyone else. Christians are not supposed to be an elite “holier than thou” group sent to save the world; we should humbly admit that we are no better than the “lowliest” of all men/women. We live in the same world as everyone else. If you wish to believe in the “chosen” of God, you must remember that to be a servant of God is to SERVE the world, not save it. Compassion is not saying “you are going to hell, but I’ll show you how to be like me so you don’t have to." To be compassionate is to stand WITH the world, and to profess that we are ALL imperfect. It is not to condemn “sin”, but to understand it, not as our “natural, total depravity," but as that which separates us from God. Instead of saying “You don’t love Jesus, you’re going to Hell!!!" how about you try the true message of Christ, the man who condemned pious ceremony and religious elitism by keeping company with those who were most despised: prostitutes, labourers and tax-collectors. “Love your God, and your neighbour as yourself." Love means acceptance. To accept your “sinful” nature means to accept that EVERYONE else is the same as you, no better, no worse.
“So most people are guilty of putting something before God, that’s why Satan is allowed to roam, God uses him as a test against us people."
You too put something before God. To deny it is to be the proud person who is too ashamed of his sin that you have already condemned. Perfection belongs to God; accept it and stop pretending that you are any better than anyone else.
Rev. Storring (not too proud to admit that I could be way off.)
If I put something before God I ask him to give me pain and suffering on a trail, but he is forgiving. And I know Christians should be the lowliest people, I’m not saying we are special. We’re no greater than any human. And yes, I put something before God, and I will stop. This I promise.
I am only warning the people who live in sin. It may discourage them but if they don’t make a difference it just may come true. I am only warning and praying for those people lost in the world. But, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: I AM ONLY 12 AND STILL IN THE TRAINING MODE OF A CHRISTIAN, I HAVE MUCH TO LEARN. But I can still save others, and note that your saying has only discouraged me. Which I will make no comment of.
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kev360 wrote:
98supra wrote:
Kev, Why do u want me 2 be gay?
because i want to bend you over and shoot chocolate gew in your asshole.
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:50 pm |
MVC's Long Forgotten Rep: 8Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,030 OFFLINE | God is the perfect God with no mistakes. He had regrets he made us during the time of Noah, but that was because even the angels sinned.
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kev360 wrote:
98supra wrote:
Kev, Why do u want me 2 be gay?
because i want to bend you over and shoot chocolate gew in your asshole.
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:55 pm |
Regular Rep: 1 Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 379 OFFLINE | "But I can still save others, and note that your saying has only discouraged me. Which I will make no comment of."
I did not mean to discourage you. Keep up your faith and your desire to do what you believe to be right ... just know your limitations, but do NOT stop trying to overcome them. God bless.
Rev. Storring
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| 25 Apr 2006 06:59 pm |
MVC's Long Forgotten Rep: 8Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,030 OFFLINE | I have no obstacles, not even my enemies are even enough to be an obstacle, because I fear no one but the Lord. He can destroy our body and soul. Meaning no existance. But humans can only take the body.
No need for apology because I already have forgiven.
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kev360 wrote:
98supra wrote:
Kev, Why do u want me 2 be gay?
because i want to bend you over and shoot chocolate gew in your asshole.
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| 25 Apr 2006 07:23 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 2 Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | Wait did you just say that your 12.... red spartan...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 26 Apr 2006 12:09 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Hydra that made no sense ... Black Hydra Xc wrote:
God punishes us for using most of those freedoms.
huh!? How does he punish us for using 'those' freedoms ?? .. and I don’t see how they were illusions ?
Here we go. I cannot hurt any other living being without damning myself to hell forever. (punishment for using a freedom) I cannot live a happy life not believing in god without damning myself to hell forever. (punishment for using a freedom) I cannot “put any other god before the one you believe in” or........ (I’ll burn in hell forever) I can’t do anything I feel is right without burning in hell. That is taking away the freedom that god supposedly gave me.
And they are illusions. Many people use that lifestlye and burn in hell, not for a year, not for a thousand years, but forever. That is not fair. That is not just. That is not godly. Blind people. How sad. I refuse to obey such a tyrant.
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| 26 Apr 2006 08:11 am |
Senior member Rep: 10Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | I’m confused about something. How closely is God involved with each of us? I mean, if you take someone with a drinking problem (porn, drugs, whatever) and he really wants to quit, why do you suppose God doesn’t help right away? whats everbodys Opinion on this?
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