DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
I’m confused about something. How closely is God involved with each of us? I mean, if you take someone with a drinking problem (porn, drugs, whatever) and he really wants to quit, why do you suppose God doesn’t help right away? whats everbodys Opinion on this?
umm alot of people will say it’s because God doesn’t exist... some will say because he is not worthy enough and he doesn’t pray... and still other’s will say that he is evil and doesn’t deserve help... and finally I will say that I simply don’t know cause that is the only answer I could give you without lying...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
God was not evil when he created Satan. God created spirits, but gave them free agency (free to choose) this is good. Satan chose to be evil. Before Satan rebelled he sat right next to Christ in rank in heaven. Satan beleived that when we come to Earth we need to be forced to do good insted of choosing but that idea was evil.
I would like to share some verses from the Book of Mormon
Hel. 14:
And now remember, remember, my brethren, that whosoever perisheth, perisheth unto himself; and whosoever doeth iniquity, doeth it unto himself; for behold, ye are free; ye are permitted to act for yourselves; for behold, God hath given unto you a knowledge and he hath made you free.
Moses 4: 3
Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled• against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down;
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
I’m confused about something. How closely is God involved with each of us? I mean, if you take someone with a drinking problem (porn, drugs, whatever) and he really wants to quit, why do you suppose God doesn’t help right away? whats everbodys Opinion on this?
umm alot of people will say it’s because God doesn’t exist... some will say because he is not worthy enough and he doesn’t pray... and still other’s will say that he is evil and doesn’t deserve help... and finally I will say that I simply don’t know cause that is the only answer I could give you without lying...
Or simply there’s doubt and little faith. When Jesus walked on water, he invited Peter to walk but Peter didn’t have the faith, so he began sinking.
If we have our faith to the size of this period. Then we can tell a mountain to jump into the sea.
But peopledobt and don’t believe in God’s power.
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kev360 wrote:
98supra wrote:
Kev, Why do u want me 2 be gay?
because i want to bend you over and shoot chocolate gew in your asshole.
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
I’m confused about something. How closely is God involved with each of us? I mean, if you take someone with a drinking problem (porn, drugs, whatever) and he really wants to quit, why do you suppose God doesn’t help right away? whats everbodys Opinion on this?
umm alot of people will say it’s because God doesn’t exist... some will say because he is not worthy enough and he doesn’t pray... and still other’s will say that he is evil and doesn’t deserve help... and finally I will say that I simply don’t know cause that is the only answer I could give you without lying...
Or simply there’s doubt and little faith. When Jesus walked on water, he invited Peter to walk but Peter didn’t have the faith, so he began sinking.
If we have our faith to the size of this period. Then we can tell a mountain to jump into the sea.
But people doubt and don’t believe in God’s power.
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kev360 wrote:
98supra wrote:
Kev, Why do u want me 2 be gay?
because i want to bend you over and shoot chocolate gew in your asshole.
"I heard that hell isn’t flames. Satan tourture people in Hell like brainwashing people like they are on fire running around nuts 24/7 til the end of time. This is what one dude in Africa said when he died and went to hell. Some Pastor and his church and God brung the dude back to life and explain how hell is like. Some dudes even had dreams were Jesus is right next to them, Jesus shows sinners how hell is like and if they don’t get outta the hell of sin, this will happen to them. More or less, God sends people visons of hell and what it’s really like."
That may be true. But I have also read testimonies of people going to hell and back in a dream, and they saw and felt the hot lava or the firey lake, like real fire. But hell may also be a mental type of hell. The main thing is that hell is bad, real bad, and it will not feel good, and it will hurt, and there will be torture. That’s the main message.
--- “Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
Last edited 27 Apr 2006 12:35 am by Someone who cares....
Please don’t. Please, turn your path to Heaven, and I still hope to see you there - Heaven.
--- “Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
"Yes, yes, God do hate sinners so much, he uses nature disasters to kill those sinners, even though God wants everyone to be saved and the nature disasters are just a part of natural and not really God’s judgement! Yep, God don’t really care for sinners. It must be fun to be a extremist Christian, carrying the burden of your regilon, be streesed out, even though God wants you to be free from the burden of regilon!"
Please, you must understand, God loves the sinner, and everyone else, it is thier SIN that God does not approve of. But God loves the sinner, and He is waiting for the sinner to turn to Him and change his ways. God loves you.
--- “Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
"dude whatever, my god can kick your god ass.
don’t reply Because you know its the truth..."
Might I ask who your God is? Because there is only ONE real God.
--- “Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
"Okay, since no one responded, I’ll say it again. Why would god let us have sins and then demand we say sorry for something we can’t help and then punish us if we don’t say sorry for something that isn’t our fault?"
Sin came from the devil, the jealous angel that was cast out of Heaven. God doesn’t demand everyone to say sorry, but if you want to live for God, it is what you do yourself. You have free will. No one is forcing you to repent for your sins. But if you want to live for God and be good, it’s what you will do, to get closer to God. It is true that everyone has sinned, but you can help it most of the time if you try real hard. Sinning is still a part of your free will, you choose to do it, no one is forcing you to do it. You choose hell by how you live, what you do, what you say and think.
--- “Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
Sorry for so many posts, there were so many replies and they were not in the list of the previous ten replies, so I have to split up each one to see them and reply.
“I’m confused about something. How closely is God involved with each of us? I mean, if you take someone with a drinking problem (porn, drugs, whatever) and he really wants to quit, why do you suppose God doesn’t help right away? whats everbodys Opinion on this?
The person who drinks or is on drugs has to stop himself. Yes, he can ask God for strength, but the task is his. If he repents and wants to quit, sincerly, then with time, if he truly wants to do it, he will see that he should drop his bad habit because it is not what God wants, and he will force himself, bit by bit, to quit it. It may be very hard for him, he may be hooked and it may even hurt, and it may take years, but if he has the true wish to drop it, he can, if he puts forth all his strength to do it.
--- “Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
Someone who cares.... wrote:
“Okay, since no one responded, I’ll say it again. Why would god let us have sins and then demand we say sorry for something we can’t help and then punish us if we don’t say sorry for something that isn’t our fault?"
Sin came from the devil, the jealous angel that was cast out of Heaven. God doesn’t demand everyone to say sorry, but if you want to live for God, it is what you do yourself. You have free will. No one is forcing you to repent for your sins. But if you want to live for God and be good, it’s what you will do, to get closer to God. It is true that everyone has sinned, but you can help it most of the time if you try real hard. Sinning is still a part of your free will, you choose to do it, no one is forcing you to do it. You choose hell by how you live, what you do, what you say and think.
SWC, according to you, god created us. Are you telling me that he allows satan to interact with his creations?
--- The farther you question, the more they will hate you.
Red Spartan 226 wrote:
I have no obstacles, not even my enemies are even enough to be an obstacle, because I fear no one but the Lord. He can destroy our body and soul. Meaning no existance. But humans can only take the body.
No need for apology because I already have forgiven.
That’s not true, not quite how it works, there are soul stealing humans unfortunately, as well as demons that do worse then that.
I wouldn’t go around parading myself as one who only fears God, cause god gave mankind brains, and that means you shouldn’t try to leap into danger thinking that he will save you. For example I wouldn’t stand on a railroad track and say God will stop this train or something of the sort... cause common sense will get you farther in the eye of God then will blatent stupidy.
There is a lot more evil in this world, then most people realise, so watch out for it, and live a longer more prosperous life, otherwise meet impeding doom that you can’t even fathom (there is stuff worse then Hell for example).
BTW whoever posted it, Schindler wasn’t executed, and didn’t try to kill Hitler that was Count Claus von Stauffenberg who did that, you were right about the other stuff though.
I’ll give you a word of advice direct from the Creator, one of the worst things you can do is do evil in his name, in my opinon would have been a good Commandment had it survied Moses’s fit. Moses, Moses, tsk tsk....