| 26 Apr 2006 09:04 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2 Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Right and wrong are subjective. You are getting something out of it. What don’t you understand about that? Selfishness would be doing something for someone else without it benefiting yourself. ---
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:06 pm |
bonjour Rep: 3 Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,307 OFFLINE | getting something out of it isn’t being selfish ---
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:07 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | You (YOURSELF) is getting something out of it. ---
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:21 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3 Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
You (YOURSELF) is getting something out of it.
but if your original intent is to not get something for personal benefit than that is unselfishness... It doesn’t matter if you get some good feeling afterwards if that wasn’t the reason you did the act...
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:22 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | You wouldn’t commit the act if it didn’t do something for yourself. ---
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:24 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | Yes you would... you don’t do kind acts just to get that feeling afterwards... that is selfishness but most people don’t do it for that reason... ---
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:25 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Yeah? And what other reasons are there dark? ---
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:31 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | To help the person... selfish... concerned unduly over personal profit or pleasure... now if you are not interested in overly helping yourself when you set out to do something than you are not overly concerned with your own benefit meaning that you are not being selfish... ---
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:40 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | But it is your own benefit. Either you want to help them to feel better. Or you want to help them so you won’t feel bad about not helping them. I have to go. See ya ---
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:44 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | ugh yes that may be an outcome but that is not the reason... I do not help to feel better about myself... I already feel good I do not need any reinforcement... If you do not set out on a task for personal gain then that is being unslefish... just because you get something out of it in the end does not mean that you are selfish it just means that your body is reacting naturally to what you did... there is a difference between getting something out of an act and specifically setting out to get something out of an act... ---
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 26 Apr 2006 09:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22 Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2,663 OFFLINE | what of me Hydra, and my post? ---
 
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| 26 Apr 2006 11:59 pm |
Regular Rep: 4 Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 691 OFFLINE | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
You (YOURSELF) is getting something out of it.
You know *Black Hydra*, I don’t see how we can avoid some kind of reaction from any action (good or bad) that we perform? So even if we did some helpful deed instinctively without thought of ourself, the reaction/outcome of the deed performed is beyond our control.
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| 27 Apr 2006 12:02 am |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 691 OFFLINE | Duriel wrote:
Nitya, I like your sig. 
Thanks Duriel, I’m sure your kind words were not premeditated to make me feel good so you will feel good in return for making me feel good...lol... 
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| 27 Apr 2006 12:05 am |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 691 OFFLINE | James R. LeClair wrote:
Ok, today was garbage day and, as often happens in the windy city Rev. Storring and I reside in, there were several garbage and recycling containers on the road after the trucks went by. Now I won’t go over, again, my current maladies but I am not well and my balance is shot. Yet Whenever I see those containers the first thing I think of is “what if someones car hits that?" and the first thing I do is move them onto the curb. I crossed the street today to retrieve and set 3 trash bins straight, I fell while trying to grab the second one, and chuckled at myself before righting the third.
James R LeClair
The world needs more people like you.
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| 27 Apr 2006 01:31 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2,663 OFFLINE | The world can’t even deal with, or stand, ME
I’m an enigma to the people who know me best, let alone the strangers who stare
But I am me and I know deep down that ME is a pretty decent person. ---
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| 27 Apr 2006 05:04 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | Nitya wrote:
Black Hydra Xc wrote:
You (YOURSELF) is getting something out of it.
You know *Black Hydra*, I don’t see how we can avoid some kind of reaction from any action (good or bad) that we perform? So even if we did some helpful deed instinctively without thought of ourself, the reaction/outcome of the deed performed is beyond our control.
Your halfway correct. You always think about things you do. So the without part is incorrect.
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| 27 Apr 2006 05:20 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2,116 OFFLINE | James R. LeClair wrote:
Ok, today was garbage day and, as often happens in the windy city Rev. Storring and I reside in, there were several garbage and recycling containers on the road after the trucks went by. Now I won’t go over, again, my current maladies but I am not well and my balance is shot. Yet Whenever I see those containers the first thing I think of is “what if someones car hits that?" and the first thing I do is move them onto the curb. I crossed the street today to retrieve and set 3 trash bins straight, I fell while trying to grab the second one, and chuckled at myself before righting the third.
After I did it I set on my merry way again, but laughed as I remembered THIS thread. So what was my selfishness in this, because I truly HAVE tried to find something. But I can’t, and I’m sure Rev. Mathew can verify my level of selflessness, not that I am saying I am totally selfless, but I AM consciously UNselfish every chance I have
James R LeClair
Okay. You don’t want people to get hit. YOU would FEEL BAD if they got hit. You don’t want to feel bad because you would feel responsible.
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| 27 Apr 2006 05:35 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2,663 OFFLINE | Black Hydra Xc wrote:
Okay. You don’t want people to get hit. YOU would FEEL BAD if they got hit. You don’t want to feel bad because you would feel responsible.
Plausible but naw. I have severe Multiple Sclerosis, and recycling bins are made of plastic. The only injury likely would be cosmetic to the vehicle. Plus anything that occurs, that might be more tragic, is “meant to be”. My views, on sudden events, lie along a balance point of “survival of the fittest”, “natural selection” and “que serra”
Plus after falling, pretty hard, I STILL righted the 3rd one.
Trust me Hydra, when I say, I question my motives every day at some point. Because I want to make sure that I am never like the people who don’t. I’d like to think that there are more people like me, I have to
JRL
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| 27 Apr 2006 10:12 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | hmm... intersting JRL... ---
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 27 Apr 2006 11:21 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,686 OFFLINE | If you give your life to save someones else’s is that selfish? You get no good feeling from that, you’re dead! Or if you defend someone who is being beat up by a group of guys and end up in the hospital, is that selfish? Feeling good about something isn’t selfish, and besides, most people don’t help others simply for the good feeling.
What of D-Day? Where was the good feeling there? The marines helped and the marines died, but they get no good feeling. But I am a firm believer in the Bible and the biblical afterlife | |
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