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[Quote] #21
05 May 2006 07:51 pm
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Dude, i am so fucking stoned right now.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it."
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05 May 2006 07:52 pm
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if fact i have been stoned for over 3 days now
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it."
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06 May 2006 11:16 pm
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"how will identify if satan is attacking me, because he can disguise humself."



There’s no clear and cut way, because Satan likes to lie and use disguises. But, like Kane is back said, if it’s not from God, then it’s from Satan. You have to think, by your knowledge of the Bible, would God say such a thing to you, or would it most likely be Satan. God would usually prompt for good action, good life, helping others, exploring the Scriptures, praying, preaching the Gospel to others, doing to others as you would have them do to yourself, and other good things. Satan, well, he usually prompts for evil, killing, bad doings, rebellion, disobedience, hatred, lying, cheating, and other bad things. Read the Bible, and you should get a better picture. And remember, what would Jesus do? Is what you hear or feel prompting to things that Jesus would do?

And keep up good deeds, do your part in ministry, don’t back out. Stand up for your Saviour and God. Explore the Bible, you may be surprized at what you find! Pray, pray to God often, be grateful, ask God His will in your life and actions. And have Christian fellowship, it will help strengthen you spiritually. Don’t slide back! Because the farmer that takes to his work and looks back is not worthy for God’s work, like the Christian that just became saved, should not look back into the world and think of earthly things that used to interest him, he needs to look ahead at Jesus, and follow Him all the way. You will be faced with temptations, possibly daily! But you must overcome them and do what is right.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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06 May 2006 11:18 pm
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"And you wonder why some people today are turning away from God. . .fools like Kane is Back and Somebody Who Cares. . ."



I forgive you my friend. Peace.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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06 May 2006 11:22 pm
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"It sure is funny that the one who invents the concept of sin has the cure for it."


What do you mean? Satan started tempting Eve in the garden which led Adam and Eve to sin. The cure for sin comes from God, He sent Jesus to this earth and Jesus died on the cross and was risen so that we could be saved and have our sins washed away.


And don’t try to equate crime and sin to prove sin exists. They are separate concepts that intertwine on certain things.


Sin exists. Romans 3:23 says that everyone has sinned. The Bible tells us that sin certainly does exist.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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06 May 2006 11:26 pm
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"SWC, don’t you wish you could bash someone with a mace who doesn’t repent when you tell them to when the END TIMES was preached during the middle ages, primarily the black death and spanish inquisition, but also in the protestant revolution in EVERY european country."


I do not wish to bash anyone with anything if they don’t repent. That would hinder them even more. Yes, the End Times were preached long ago, and even people in Jesus' day were expecting the return of their Saviour in their life times. But one thing is certain now, this world is coming to more and more evil everyday, and we see more catastrophes and wars and violence than before. Something really is close.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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06 May 2006 11:34 pm
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that’s not true, its just today we have this thing called MASS MEDIA which allows people to get news from all over the world in an instant, as well as video of the incidences, this also gives people the chance to spreed there ideas more freely.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it."
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06 May 2006 11:44 pm
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"You have read the bible then i am guessing, try to consider points from another point of view before putting up a defence straight away, at the moment its like talking to a brick wall."


But see, I have showed you guys proof for the Bible being true, and I am writing an essay on why Evolution is false, and I have presented other proofs for my beliefs. By these forums, I have found proof for my beliefs. I mean, I have learned many of the “why’s” about things I believe in, and things I don’t. Like take the Bible, I always took it for Truth, but people on these forums have made me search deeper, for proof. And I found it, now I am super strong about my belief that the Bible is real, I’ve got a list of proofs for it! Or Creation versus evolution. I always knew that it’s Creation. But with these debates, I came to writing a whole essay on why evolution is false, and super strengthened my belief that Creation is true, not evolution. As with other things, I learned much from these forums, I saw the way other people saw it, and strengthened my beliefs and increased my knowledge about the “whys” of my belief. Or the “proofs” for what I believe in. I really strengthened my own faith here on these forums, and now, I think I can much better handle certain situations and attacks at my faith. Yes, everyone is entitled to their beliefs. But I am doing what Jesus wants me to do, to preach the Gospel to the world. I do not want you guys to go to Hell, that’s a big reason why I’m here. I don’t want you guys to have torture after death, I care for you guys, that’s why I’m here. You can accept the message, or you can deny it, but I have at least presented it to you, and tried to help. And you say you don’t see freedom in Christianity? Well, there may be many limitations and certain ways in which we may not be able to do what the rest of the world does, but in the end, after death, it will all be worth it! We will have paradise in Heaven, not torture in Hell. See, it’s not just about this life and being free here on earth, it’s about where you will spend eternity when you die, that will be more important than the things of this earth and desires. And I hope to see all of you in Heaven. Please come.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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06 May 2006 11:48 pm
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"SWC - I stated originally that the idea of salvation through faith alone, not works, is an idea proposed by people who came after Jesus. Quoting scripture written by Paul, who came after Jesus, just shows what I was saying. Jesus stated that the path to Heaven would be granted to those who welcomed the homeless, fed the poor, and visite the sick and imprisoned, not by believing in him. Do I believe in the Teacher? Yes, of course I do! But the lesson is what is most important."


But was it not Paul who was stopped on his way to Damascus by Jesus Himself? Don’t you believe God had plans for Paul? Why do you keep saying we shouldn’t quote him? But here, I have another verse, this time, by Jesus Himself! John 6:47 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life."



“if fact i have been stoned for over 3 days now”


What do you mean Weasel?
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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07 May 2006 01:30 am
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This is interesting to watch.
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07 May 2006 09:48 am
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“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life."

Great quote. But when I read it for the first time years ago, I never once thought to myself that he meant THE ONLY thing you have to do is believe in me. The way I look at it is thus: To believe in Jesus is to believe in the truth of his teachings. You can’t believe is teachings without putting them into practical use. Faith without works is dead, right?

Another thing I think is VERY important is that we can’t place too much importance on his death. The resurrection is crucial to Christian faith, but remember, he LIVED before he died and was raised. I find that too many people seem to ignore his life in favour of his death and resurrection, but you can’t have one without the other. To me, saying that Jesus died to save us cheapens his life. He lived AND died AND lived again to bring salvation. That’s why I don’t like Paul, because he spent years ignoring Jesus' life and preaching the glory of his death. Did not Christ say himself, (I do not have the literal translation in front of me) when his disciples said that they would gladly die for him, “do not die for me, but rather live for me, because you can achieve more through living than dying” ? Why would he ignore his own advice? Jesus LIVED for humanity before he died for them.

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07 May 2006 04:38 pm
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Someone who cares.... wrote: “It sure is funny that the one who invents the concept of sin has the cure for it."


What do you mean? Satan started tempting Eve in the garden which led Adam and Eve to sin. The cure for sin comes from God, He sent Jesus to this earth and Jesus died on the cross and was risen so that we could be saved and have our sins washed away.


And don’t try to equate crime and sin to prove sin exists. They are separate concepts that intertwine on certain things.


Sin exists. Romans 3:23 says that everyone has sinned. The Bible tells us that sin certainly does exist.


Haha. The religion that created the concept of sin has the cure for it. IE, the Bible says sin exists and then offers the cure.
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07 May 2006 06:09 pm
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Someone who cares wrote:

“if fact i have been stoned for over 3 days now”

What do you mean Weasel?


he means that “let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”. Weasel is making a valid biblical point that he sometimes feels he has been condemned to an ancient form of capital punishment. Quite literally he is taking along time to die from being stoned.
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07 May 2006 10:40 pm
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hmmm.
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09 May 2006 04:40 pm
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no, i mean i was stoned, as in high, seeing dancing mushrooms and having to grab the grass to keep from falling off of the earth.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it."
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09 May 2006 04:44 pm
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oooooooooooooooookay.....
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15 May 2006 12:23 am
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"Great quote. But when I read it for the first time years ago, I never once thought to myself that he meant THE ONLY thing you have to do is believe in me. The way I look at it is thus: To believe in Jesus is to believe in the truth of his teachings. You can’t believe is teachings without putting them into practical use. Faith without works is dead, right?

Another thing I think is VERY important is that we can’t place too much importance on his death. The resurrection is crucial to Christian faith, but remember, he LIVED before he died and was raised. I find that too many people seem to ignore his life in favour of his death and resurrection, but you can’t have one without the other. To me, saying that Jesus died to save us cheapens his life. He lived AND died AND lived again to bring salvation. That’s why I don’t like Paul, because he spent years ignoring Jesus' life and preaching the glory of his death. Did not Christ say himself, (I do not have the literal translation in front of me) when his disciples said that they would gladly die for him, “do not die for me, but rather live for me, because you can achieve more through living than dying” ? Why would he ignore his own advice? Jesus LIVED for humanity before he died for them."


You are right, if you believe in Jesus, you must believe His teachings, that comes as a two part deal. It just comes with it. You believe in Jesus, so, His teachings must also be true. And that is all good and right. But(I’m not saying this about you) if you believe in His teachings, but not in Him, there’s something wrong...

Well of course, Jesus taught many good lessons during His life, and clarified the Ten Commandments, and healed people, and did miracles so that people would see and believe in Him, and rebuked hypocricy, and clarified many things about what can be done on the Sabbath, and much more. But throught His death, we obtain the Salvation. See, Jesus was the sacrifice for the sins of ALL people, the Ultimate Sacrifice. Without His death, and resurrection, we would not be able to obtain Salvation, and that’s very important, I mean VERY. But we should not ignore His life and teachings, they have very important lessons, in simple language and parables, we should learn from them, and strive to be better followers of Christ. Yes, without the birth, there wouldn’t be the life. Without the life, there wouldn’t be the death. And without the death, there wouldn’t be the resurrection. The parts are interrelated, one cannot be without the other.



“Haha. The religion that created the concept of sin has the cure for it. IE, the Bible says sin exists and then offers the cure."



Jesus gave the cure or attonement for sin. The Bible wrote about it. And the Bible is true, I’ve already shown that.
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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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15 May 2006 04:14 pm
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Weasel 16 wrote: no, i mean i was stoned, as in high, seeing dancing mushrooms and having to grab the grass to keep from falling off of the earth.


wtf... a high weasel... hmm... just can’t picture that...
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15 May 2006 09:52 pm
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Sometimes it makes me wonder.... Wonder why they let inmature people purchase drugs.... Oh the wonders of it all!
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15 May 2006 09:59 pm
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umm how about cause THEY WANT MONEY.... they don’t give a crap who gets their drugs... whether it be weasels or teens...
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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