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[Quote] #121
16 May 2006 05:45 pm
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Please don’t go around with your self righteous I am always right bullshit anymore... it doesn’t impress anyone and it doesn’t make you anymore right than you were before...

and honestly i am sick of it already cause you know what i don’t think that you will ever get it either...
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[Quote] #122
16 May 2006 05:46 pm
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Myst- okay enough of calling his posts a joke just because theres no ABC 1+1=2 evidence before you !!
You eat a candy bar that has a list of ingredients on it . Now , do you eat the candy bar assuming the ingredients is correct and factual ?? Or do you take it into a laboratory and have it test , have the results layed out before this way you KNOW whats really inside it ?
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[Quote] #123
16 May 2006 05:47 pm
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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote: Myst- okay enough of calling his posts a joke just because theres no ABC 1+1=2 evidence before you !!
You eat a candy bar that has a list of ingredients on it . Now , do you eat the candy bar assuming the ingredients is correct and factual ?? Or do you take it into a laboratory and have it test , have the results layed out before this way you KNOW whats really inside it ?


The candy bar is tangible. The God concept is not.
[Quote] #124
16 May 2006 05:49 pm
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Since my opponents do not understand the definition of validity, I will assume they have a bad understanding of logic. Therefore, I shall retire.

The bottom line is this: all religions are equally valid and none of them have support for their beliefs that the others do not have (usually in the form of texts and a good feeling).
[Quote] #125
16 May 2006 05:50 pm
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Also, it is entire logical to conclude that God is the creation of the human mind. Even anon acknowledged this when calling other gods false.
[Quote] #126
16 May 2006 05:51 pm
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myst7426 wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote: Anomynous_person - This will take days to get through to them .. some people will never understand .


Some people will never understand the truths of Islam like you! Your mind and heart is closed!


Why would I want to know the 'truths of islam' . So what ?? Do I go around questioning that ? Asking for evidence ? Thats what you choose to believe thats great , but why make endless inquistions on the Chrisitan religion ? Why is it so important for you to prove the Chrisitan religion and the Lord wrong ??
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[Quote] #127
16 May 2006 05:52 pm
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"Do you know what validity even is? Your response suggests that you don’t.

The rest of your post is a joke. A fact doesn’t need factual evidence so long as it feels good inside! LOL!!! The truth is within you!!! Does that mean it is subjective?

Common sense is a joke and a terrible way to ascertain facts. Common sense is usually common opinion or common belief. Common sense says the earth is flat!"

It looks like you are the one who doesn’t understand. Truth is not common sense. Truth is a part of the wholeness of the entity of Godliness. Satan committed the first lie, he is the Father of lies, for He created something that is not True. Something that does not pertain to how things really are supposed to be. He is the anti.

God ties the world together with his own bieng. His spirit is all around us! When we let Him inside, we come to know the Truth, and we can discern right from wrong. We become part of his Family, we come to know his wholeness.

Man that does not know God, cannot have God within him. He must believe in God and let Him inside. He who is with God, cannot be wrong. For Satan is wrong. God is right. Is this so hard for you to understand? The truth is in you, because god is in you. What does not pertain to what is inside of you (God the Truth), is NOT truth!

Example- You have a toy car in your pocket. You see a tree outside. You take the car out of your pocket, and compare it with the tree. You Now are assured that the tree is not the car. They are not the same.
[Quote] #128
16 May 2006 05:55 pm
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myst7426 wrote: Since my opponents do not understand the definition of validity, I will assume they have a bad understanding of logic. Therefore, I shall retire.

The bottom line is this: all religions are equally valid and none of them have support for their beliefs that the others do not have (usually in the form of texts and a good feeling).


Thats the bottom line for you . Well done , was that what you were out to prove ??
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[Quote] #129
16 May 2006 05:55 pm
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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
myst7426 wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote: Anomynous_person - This will take days to get through to them .. some people will never understand .


Some people will never understand the truths of Islam like you! Your mind and heart is closed!


Why would I want to know the 'truths of islam' . So what ?? Do I go around questioning that ? Asking for evidence ? Thats what you choose to believe thats great , but why make endless inquistions on the Chrisitan religion ? Why is it so important for you to prove the Chrisitan religion and the Lord wrong ??


You want to know because it is the truth. You need to know it to be saved.

*Note, I am not a Muslim. I am just arguing from their perspective in an effort to show how fallacious a Christians argument is. You are use to being surrounded by Christians and take strength in numbers. Typically, you engage in Christian vs Atheist arguments. One of the best atheistic counter argument is arguing from the viewpoint of a different religion.
[Quote] #130
16 May 2006 05:56 pm
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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
myst7426 wrote: Since my opponents do not understand the definition of validity, I will assume they have a bad understanding of logic. Therefore, I shall retire.

The bottom line is this: all religions are equally valid and none of them have support for their beliefs that the others do not have (usually in the form of texts and a good feeling).


Thats the bottom line for you . Well done , was that what you were out to prove ??


Weight the validity of the arguments for various religions and they equate. its not my bottom line. It is an objective bottom line.
[Quote] #131
16 May 2006 05:56 pm
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Myst7426 wrote: You want to know because it is the truth.


Ohh boyyy here we go , talking about THE TRUTH now are we ?? Okay great !! Now , where is your PROOF supporting you belief of 'the truth' ??
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[Quote] #132
16 May 2006 05:57 pm
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myst just wants to argue the point that God is a man made creation and that religion is simply a human thing with no backing or reliable evidence...

or at least that seems to be what he is arguing for...
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[Quote] #133
16 May 2006 05:58 pm
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Anomynous_person wrote: “Do you know what validity even is? Your response suggests that you don’t.

The rest of your post is a joke. A fact doesn’t need factual evidence so long as it feels good inside! LOL!!! The truth is within you!!! Does that mean it is subjective?

Common sense is a joke and a terrible way to ascertain facts. Common sense is usually common opinion or common belief. Common sense says the earth is flat!"

It looks like you are the one who doesn’t understand. Truth is not common sense. Truth is a part of the wholeness of the entity of Godliness. Satan committed the first lie, he is the Father of lies, for He created something that is not True. Something that does not pertain to how things really are supposed to be. He is the anti.

God ties the world together with his own bieng. His spirit is all around us! When we let Him inside, we come to know the Truth, and we can discern right from wrong. We become part of his Family, we come to know his wholeness.

Man that does not know God, cannot have God within him. He must believe in God and let Him inside. He who is with God, cannot be wrong. For Satan is wrong. God is right. Is this so hard for you to understand? The truth is in you, because god is in you. What does not pertain to what is inside of you (God the Truth), is NOT truth!

Example- You have a toy car in your pocket. You see a tree outside. You take the car out of your pocket, and compare it with the tree. You Now are assured that the tree is not the car. They are not the same.


Are you going to define validty?

Continuing with the perpetual circular logic are you?
[Quote] #134
16 May 2006 05:59 pm
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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Myst7426 wrote: You want to know because it is the truth.


Ohh boyyy here we go , talking about THE TRUTH now are we ?? Okay great !! Now , where is your PROOF supporting you belief of 'the truth' ??


Read the Note*

I am simply arguing from a non Christian THEISTIC point of view.
[Quote] #135
16 May 2006 05:59 pm
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dark99 wrote: myst just wants to argue the point that God is a man made creation and that religion is simply a human thing with no backing or reliable evidence...


Yes I got that smiley But now I am asking the evidence of ...
Myst7426 wrote:
You want to know because it is the truth. You need to know it to be saved.

what myst is talking about , and seeing if he can back it up with any reliable evidence .
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[Quote] #136
16 May 2006 06:00 pm
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myst7426 wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Myst7426 wrote: You want to know because it is the truth.


Ohh boyyy here we go , talking about THE TRUTH now are we ?? Okay great !! Now , where is your PROOF supporting you belief of 'the truth' ??


Read the Note*

I am simply arguing from a non Christian THEISTIC point of view.


Then , WHAT is it that you believe ??

And do us a favour and how about you define 'validity' for us ??
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[Quote] #137
16 May 2006 06:01 pm
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umm well his evidence is that you can’t sense God with any senses and you have to have faith in him and that is the only thing you can use to argue for his existence...
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[Quote] #138
16 May 2006 06:01 pm
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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
dark99 wrote: myst just wants to argue the point that God is a man made creation and that religion is simply a human thing with no backing or reliable evidence...


Yes I got that smiley But now I am asking the evidence of ...
Myst7426 wrote:
You want to know because it is the truth. You need to know it to be saved.

what myst is talking about , and seeing if he can back it up with any reliable evidence .


Read the *Note

I do not believe the Qur’an is the truth. I am simply showing you why I do not accept your “TRUTH." The reason is because you are not backing it up with reliable evidence which is exactly what you just said to me when I said Islam is the truth.
[Quote] #139
16 May 2006 06:02 pm
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"myst just wants to argue the point that God is a man made creation and that religion is simply a human thing with no backing or reliable evidence..."

Looks like. If there was no God. There would be nothing. Nothing cannot produce something, but something exists! Therefor there was always something, that something is God. The realism of this world, is the realism of the Creator- God. God is real! Because he is real, he doesn’t need proof for His own existance. If man believes in God, He no longer has the need for evidence because the evidence is in God because God is real. God is our evidence! We don’t need evidence for God!
[Quote] #140
16 May 2006 06:05 pm
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Something that is valid, pertains to the truth and the truth is in God. If that is not your definition of validity and truth, then I cannot commerse in your language and you will never come to understand what I am pointing at.
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