kh2 sora and link v.s cloud and sonic

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i know im being unfair oh well

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damn dude you suck... okay let’s get real technical here, I’m about to reveal to you just how much I know about Final Fantasy VII, and when I’m done you’ll be thinking that I suck.

You said Sephiroth from the last fight in the game and Movie, right? Okay you can have her (that isn’t a typo, keep reading and I’ll explain)

In Final Fantasy VII you don’t fight the real Sephiroth, let me elborate for you. Starting out in the game, the first time you see any trace of Sephiroth was when President Shinra was killed, you saw the long sword sticking out of Shin-Ra’s back, palmer tells you that he saw Sephiroth, but this isn’t true, clues in the game show you that it wasn’t Sephiroth, it was Jenova disguised as Sephiroth, Sephiroth was frozen in a mako crystal in the Northern Cave, so in other words throughout the entire game you are chasing Jenova, not Sephiroth.

This brings me to the next point in my argument, the final showdown in the northern crater, you fight four fights, Jenova Synthesis, Bizzarro Sephiroth, Safer Sephiroth, and Sephiroth. All of these fights are against Jenova, with the exception of the final one.

Jenova Systhesis is the head of Jenova that Seohiroth stole from the Nibelheim Reactor.

Bizzaro Sephiroth is the body that took the form of Sephiroth in the Shinra building.

Safer Sephiroth is the rejoining of the head and body.

The final one on one fight with Sephiroth is a showdown inside of Cloud’s head.

Now here is the resoning to my logic, first of all look at Sephiroth, he is but a normal human induced with the power of Mako and J-Cells, just like a normal 1st Class Soldier. (i.e Zack) How would Sephiroth shapeshift his form? No other Soldier could do that, how can he? He can’t, but it is already known that Jenova can change form, here is my proof.

In a report by Professor Gast that you can find in Icicle Inn, it says that Jenova came as a Calamaty From the Skies, and that it took the form of a Cetra and manipulated them.

Jenova can Shape Shift, Sephiroth can’t, so at the end of the game you fight against Jenova. Now on to AC, this will be short, so you won’t have to read much here.

In Advent Children, Sephiroth appears right after Kadaj absorbs the head of Jenova into his body, he then proceeds to change into Sephiroth, right? Well that isn’t the real Sephiroth, I like to call him Kadajiroth, it sounds funny. Anyway, when Kadaj absorbs Jenova’s head he essentially becomes an extension of Jenova, Jenova takes Kadaj’s body to use it as a vessel, afterwards Jenova transforms Kadaj Physical form into the likeness of Sephiroth, just like she did with her body in Final Fantasy VII, so once again, in Advent Children, Sephiroth is Jenova.

here is where all this information came from, a translation of the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega.

http://faqs.ign.com/articles/698/698416p1.html

So basically what I’m saying is, Sora’s new partner is Jenova, so the real Sephiroth can help Cloud out

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sephy aint gonna help cloud, theyll just start fighting each other and if you say that then sora also gets superman and noone can kill him unles they get krypton muhahahahahahaahahhhaha
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If you want to get real technical, Seph wouldn’t help Sora, neither would Link, and neither would Superman, it would have to be one of the heroes from Kingdom Hearts to help him, just like it would have to be a Hero from FF7 that would help Cloud.

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And I’ll argue until the day I die that Sephiroth can kill Superman.

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no he cant only krypton can kill superman (read the comics ) and so if you say that then sora gets xaldin and riku and king mickey from kh2

and believe me xaldin is as strong as sephy or even stronger it was just pure luck i killed him

and besides sora defeats sephy so he ll do it again against cloud ad sephy


and cloud got his ass whooped against cerberus (guardian of unerworld) but you dont see the fight so you dont really know and hercules had to save cloud by carrying him on his back and so i went and killed cerberus

so no offense but i think sora was meant to be tetsuya s and the staff of final fantasy most strongest character he made up

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i got to go bye lets discuss this tommorrow or later

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First of all, Sora is the main character of Kingdom Hearts, second of all, the FF characters in KH aren’t the same characters from the FF7 universe, and third of all, Sephiroth is the closest thing to a God that a human can get to, he is unkillable, you look at the game, in the Nibelheim Flashback Sephiroth doesn’t even take Damage when he is attacked, and Cloud goes on to say that the story couldn’t compare to how strong Sephiroth actually was.

Then if you go back and read into the history of FF7, during the Wutai uprising that happened seven years before the game began, Sphiroth took out a legion of soldiers by himself (a legion is 10,000 men)

Sephiroth is the strongest creation SE has worked up, hands down.

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You could be right but others will argue its ID from Xenogears.

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I’ve never played Xenogears...

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Its pretty cool, but I didn’t get that far in it. I just recently bought it and plan on beating it.

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I’ll let you decide who’s stronger heres some Info,attacks,and feats of ID.

For starters.

I am guessing Id is strength is class 100. Why He took down Gears with on foot by himself with his bare hands, In order to interview Id they had to strap him down (neck, legs, feet) and not only that, but connect a rod to his the nerve in his spinal cord to keep him immobilize. Id still claimed he could break free, and the doctor new he was not bluffing. (he didn’t break free b-cus then he used to much strength and his other persona would take over.) He opens up a black hole and punches it towards you (that is fucking amazing in any extent.) He also takes punches, and hits from gears directly. And Cryogenitcally frozen, vary easily.

Id on foot No Gear (with his Gear it would take a reality warper or near cosmic force to beat him)


strength is class 100

Speed. reaction time is 0.03 or faster. (Official)

Power - He has the vast powers of the Zohar witch comes from the wave existence (official)

ABILITIES
GUIDED SHOT:
Graphical representation : Fei concentrates and sends a ball of light on the
enemy.
Effect : Damages enemy with Chi.


RADIANCE:
Graphical representation : A dark circle for on the opponents, blue rays centers
on it while it’s growing in size. The circle then changes for a sphere showing
outer space which finally explodes in small pieces.
Effect : Damages with space chi.
(basically he bends and twists black hole/gravity around you)

BIG BANG:
Graphical representation : The screen show the earth and the moon. A huge beam
zaps across the galaxy and wipes out the earth and moon.
Effect : Damages with Gravity Lens.
(you feel the impact of exploding stars, moons, and planets)


HYPER-DEATHBLOWS
FUKEI:
Graphical representation : Flips into the air and throws 13 fireballs in
sequenced order, from right to left hand. Finishes with a last powerful
fireball.
(Air element Attack)

CHIKEI:
Graphical representation : Jumps away from the enemy, charges up and punches the
ground, sending a series of earth pillars on the enemy.
(Earth Element Attack)

KAKEI:
Graphical representation : Flips in the air and emits energy. Falls on the enemy
like a meteor and sends strong fire waves.
(Fire Element Attack)

SUIKEI:
Graphical representation : 4 hits that wraps the nemy into ice, a final hit
makes the ice even bigger. Finishes with a crushing punch, shattering the ice.
(Ice Element Attack)

KOKEI:
Graphical representation : Deals 3 fast right kicks followed by a strong,
electricity-charged split kick.
(Lighting Element Attack)

YAMIKEI:
Graphical representation : Jumps away from enemy and various blue lights comes
from the enemy and go to Fei. A purple whirlpool of light forms on the enemy.
(Attacks the Soul)

Dark Matter
Id opens a dark vortex, unleashing strong energy waves on your
party.
(Attacks with Gravity/black hole attack)

High Level Telekenises

Body Tranmigration


Ok with all Said above the reason why (on foot no gear) Id might have a chance is be-cuse he matches and out ranks Saga in terms of raw/destructive power. Not only that but he is one of the few True character that will not hesitate to kill anyone (old, weak, children, women etc....) His Feats are amazing. (destroying the Armed military unit by himself at age 14) (destroying various nations, and countries.) (holds a power that is greater than Grafs who wiped out 98% of the human race.)

His down side would be his speed. 0.03 of reaction time

He survived a warship thrown on him
He wiped out a nation single handly (and I mean Like not thier buildings and all)

Took on two armies by himself in two diffent occasion (bio states he did it more often)

And responsible for whipeing out over 90% of earths total human population.

He annihilated the City of Elru by age 12.

Annihilated both sides of the Galber Special Task army and another unknown army by 13

Took on a Solarain battalion again at age 18.

Took on the Nation of Solarian (which was by far the most powerful nation) by himself again.

And the rest of the nations leaders are afraid of him because he exhibit’s the same power that his former reincarnated self did 500 years ago (actually he is stronger)
Who happened to to destroy 90% of the world population with a small task force.
It took the combined nations to put in end to his war. And the current nations, are afraid of Id since he is vary well the same person.


Not only that, he wields the destructive power of the “Big Bang” along with Soul Crushing, Dimensional cutting, Gravity twisting, Elemental attacks, h2h combat genius, military training since age 8, and High level Telekinesis. All that and that’s not counting his gear (giant robo) Xenogear, or Id Wetal.

Id say its safe to assume he has, experience in defeating armies by himself and the raw power to back him up.

Here is a link, it gives info on Id.
http://guardian.leamonde.net/chars/fei.shtml

Also check out Grahf
http://guardian.leamonde.net/chars/grahf.shtml

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2557388&postcount=1

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Well, that guy does sound powerful, but is he more powerful than Sephiroth?

Sephiroth’s strength is unmeasuable, in fact the only thing that can wield the Masamune is Sephiroth, so that puts him above every other character in FF7 for sure.

He apparently has strong telekenetic powers, he is able to control Jenova, Cloud, and all the Sephiroth Clones from the other side of the planet.

His strongest attack is Super Nova, in the video game it just didn’t obliterate the Moon and Earth, it destroyed every Planet in the Solar System from Pluto to Murcury. He also uses Pale Horse which inflicts just about every status effect know to man (in the VII realm) and also uses Shadow Flare, which is the strongest non-elemental attack in the game. (I assume that sense Jenova was mimicing Sephiroth during the final battles that Sephiroth also knows how to use these attacks)

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Hey arent u guys forgetin about Sonic?and that this is a paired team fight
Kh2 Sora and Link versus Cloud and Sonic

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who cares it’s all about barnie he soooooooo cool and can beat all of them with one hit.

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you know I’m joking right? BECUASE BARNEY SUCKS!

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I have no idea. I think I will start a thread to see what others say. But the most jacked up thing about ID is the fact that in a way he’s the main character. Infact the reason I used ID is because he’s cooler than Fei because at the start of the game Fei is just lik Shinji from Neon Genesis a winy bitch.

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Yeah, make an thread and watch it get spammed to hell and back like most other versus threads... including this one... damnit I’m spamming...

Cloud can kick Sora’s butt anyday...

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no he cant because i already whooped his ass in kh2 so it doesnt matter its proof

and dude acyually superman has no limits he an blow away a star with a single breath in space and space has no air he can lift up a planet

so explain that and besides xaldin is much to tough for sephy i mean yah hes a little dumb
but hes not weak

and dude the keyblade can probably destroy the buster blade easy

and has cloud ever killed an army of a thousand
because in kh2 you have to do that by yourself without donald or goofy and you cant even summon or use drives and you still think cloud would win dude youre weird

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