| 21 Jun 2006 01:11 am |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | Super Sonic floats above the ground, and as you said, Cloud would be immune (Ribbon, the greatest accesory ever created) <evil laugh> ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
if Cloud used a dispel attack on the entire field it would disable Link’s cape, then all he need to do is cast stop on Link, then mug Link and steal the cape... viola, Cloud just become invisible
If this causes Dispell on the entire field then wouldnt Cloud’s magic also be dispelled? Also I already said it is impossible for anything to even hit Link. It’s almost like his is on another plane of exsistance. Also it’s possible that the Materia magic can only effect materia magic, since it is so abundelty fused together. Therefore dispell might only work on other Materia magic. | | | 21 Jun 2006 01:13 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | The I guess Link can use Ether and cause Sonic to come falling to the ground and smash into tiny peieces, and also Super Sonic means Triforce Link. | | | 21 Jun 2006 01:18 am |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | meh the triforce beats anything... so ex that...
And I meant esuna, and it kills off any status effects, caused by materia, attack, or accesory ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | Is Esuna somthing that must HIT you to be effective? | | | 21 Jun 2006 01:27 am |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | Esuna can’t miss, even if the caster is blinded Esuna always hits, ---
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Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 538 OFFLINE | MOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! ---
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Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | baus man wrote:
MOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
 ^^; hi Baus ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | I just looked this spell up and it says all it does is cure all negative spell effects. Esuna is useless!  | | | 21 Jun 2006 01:53 am |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | MetaHybrid wrote:
I just looked this spell up and it says all it does is cure all negative spell effects. Esuna is useless! 
It may say cures all negative statuses but that isn’t it, it also cure positive status, in the game you can actually cure Regen, a positive status effect, with Esuna, Invisibility would be considered a positive status effect, so Esuna would make Link visible  ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | Thanks for clearing that up (raises fist in anger) now for last question. Would Esuna actually be effective against Link? I said before that he’s almost on another plane of existance. I mean it’s not like the cape shields the attack, the magic goes through him. He can EVEN walk right through other people, and cut them from the inside. | | | 21 Jun 2006 02:21 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | I forgot to mention. If you cast Esuna on say Cloud with ribbon, does ribbon’s effects get nulified?
Edit: I’m turning in for now. Hope to continue this later Last edited 21 Jun 2006 02:23 am by MetaHybrid | | | 21 Jun 2006 01:26 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
I don’t think that Sora and Link can win, to be completly honest, the reason I called for a tie in the Link versus Cloud argument was because I was too fixed on the new Smash Brothers, I don’t think that Link could beat Cloud all out, Sora could take on Sonic, but Sora wouldn’t stand a chance against Cloud, Link could beat Sonic, and Cloud could beat sonic, basically Sonic is the weakest link in this fight, by Cloud can power Sonic up with big guard and haste, especially haste, if Cloud did Haste top double Sonic’s speed, Sonic would be untouchable, especially in Super mode, Sonic would provide a distraction while Cloud casted Knights of the Round to kill Sora and Link, but Link would come back to life, so Cloud would have to kill him again, and again, and again, which given the right materia combo, would be possible for an infinite amount of time, All Sonic would need to do after the initial KOTR is keep Link from reviving Sora or activating Naryu’s love, then again, if Cloud casted Silence on Link then that would prevent Link from using anything that involves his magic meter, which means Link would have to do close combat or use the bow, but Sonic is so fast thanks to Haste, that the bow would be useless against him and Cloud could deflect the arrows.
As for the Bunny Hood and Iron Boots, the reason Link is so slow with the boots is because the boots weigh so much (hints the reason he will sink in water) So the Bunny hood wouldn’t help his movements while he has the boots on, all it does is accelerate the person’s body, not increase their physical strength.
actually if ur fast enough the weight won’t mean anything
just like if u pick up something fast it doesn’t require much strength and effort
but if u do it slow then it requires more ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
| | | 21 Jun 2006 01:28 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | MetaHybrid wrote:
Cid wrote:
if Cloud used a dispel attack on the entire field it would disable Link’s cape, then all he need to do is cast stop on Link, then mug Link and steal the cape... viola, Cloud just become invisible
If this causes Dispell on the entire field then wouldnt Cloud’s magic also be dispelled? Also I already said it is impossible for anything to even hit Link. It’s almost like his is on another plane of exsistance. Also it’s possible that the Materia magic can only effect materia magic, since it is so abundelty fused together. Therefore dispell might only work on other Materia magic.
that is a possibity and is pretty logical too ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
| | | 21 Jun 2006 01:52 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | the21gamer wrote:
Cid wrote:
I don’t think that Sora and Link can win, to be completly honest, the reason I called for a tie in the Link versus Cloud argument was because I was too fixed on the new Smash Brothers, I don’t think that Link could beat Cloud all out, Sora could take on Sonic, but Sora wouldn’t stand a chance against Cloud, Link could beat Sonic, and Cloud could beat sonic, basically Sonic is the weakest link in this fight, by Cloud can power Sonic up with big guard and haste, especially haste, if Cloud did Haste top double Sonic’s speed, Sonic would be untouchable, especially in Super mode, Sonic would provide a distraction while Cloud casted Knights of the Round to kill Sora and Link, but Link would come back to life, so Cloud would have to kill him again, and again, and again, which given the right materia combo, would be possible for an infinite amount of time, All Sonic would need to do after the initial KOTR is keep Link from reviving Sora or activating Naryu’s love, then again, if Cloud casted Silence on Link then that would prevent Link from using anything that involves his magic meter, which means Link would have to do close combat or use the bow, but Sonic is so fast thanks to Haste, that the bow would be useless against him and Cloud could deflect the arrows.
As for the Bunny Hood and Iron Boots, the reason Link is so slow with the boots is because the boots weigh so much (hints the reason he will sink in water) So the Bunny hood wouldn’t help his movements while he has the boots on, all it does is accelerate the person’s body, not increase their physical strength.
actually if ur fast enough the weight won’t mean anything
just like if u pick up something fast it doesn’t require much strength and effort
but if u do it slow then it requires more
But, in order for the weight of the boots to be nullified by the speed of which Link would be traveling, he would have to have a great amount of speed before putting on the boots, which is impossible because he would be able to put the boots on while running that fast, and if he were to put the boots on first he wouldn’t be able to pick up enough speed to nullify the weight of the boots...
Also just to blow your threory completly out of the water, the fast an object moves the heavier it becomes, so even if Link were to pick up enough speed to travel that quickly while wearing the boots, he’d probably start to crater the ground he steps on, therefore causing the ground to become too uneven and thus loosing speed.
And about the dispel thing, I was wrong about the name of the materia, and if you look at my definition, you’ll see that I said Esuna cures all statuses, ones caused by materia, attacks, or anything else. ---
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Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | MetaHybrid wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up (raises fist in anger) now for last question. Would Esuna actually be effective against Link? I said before that he’s almost on another plane of existance. I mean it’s not like the cape shields the attack, the magic goes through him. He can EVEN walk right through other people, and cut them from the inside.
If Link was on another plane of existance, then the materia wouldn’t be able to affect him, but also, if Link was on another plane of existance, the he wouldn’t be able to hit Cloud, if in the game you are still able to attack your enemies while wearing the cape, then Likk mearly turns invisible, but if Link can walk through walls and people he is on another plane, but in that case his weapon would also have to be in that other Plane, therefore he couldn’t hurt Cloud, you have to think logically about these types of things.
MetaHybrid wrote:
I forgot to mention. If you cast Esuna on say Cloud with ribbon, does ribbon’s effects get nulified?
Actually Ribbon isn’t a status effect, it just makes Cloud immune to all status, but oddly enough, Ribbon also makes CLoud immune to Esuna, I guess Esuna is a staus effect too ---
 | | | 21 Jun 2006 02:29 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Cid wrote:
I don’t think that Sora and Link can win, to be completly honest, the reason I called for a tie in the Link versus Cloud argument was because I was too fixed on the new Smash Brothers, I don’t think that Link could beat Cloud all out, Sora could take on Sonic, but Sora wouldn’t stand a chance against Cloud, Link could beat Sonic, and Cloud could beat sonic, basically Sonic is the weakest link in this fight, by Cloud can power Sonic up with big guard and haste, especially haste, if Cloud did Haste top double Sonic’s speed, Sonic would be untouchable, especially in Super mode, Sonic would provide a distraction while Cloud casted Knights of the Round to kill Sora and Link, but Link would come back to life, so Cloud would have to kill him again, and again, and again, which given the right materia combo, would be possible for an infinite amount of time, All Sonic would need to do after the initial KOTR is keep Link from reviving Sora or activating Naryu’s love, then again, if Cloud casted Silence on Link then that would prevent Link from using anything that involves his magic meter, which means Link would have to do close combat or use the bow, but Sonic is so fast thanks to Haste, that the bow would be useless against him and Cloud could deflect the arrows.
As for the Bunny Hood and Iron Boots, the reason Link is so slow with the boots is because the boots weigh so much (hints the reason he will sink in water) So the Bunny hood wouldn’t help his movements while he has the boots on, all it does is accelerate the person’s body, not increase their physical strength.
actually if ur fast enough the weight won’t mean anything
just like if u pick up something fast it doesn’t require much strength and effort
but if u do it slow then it requires more
But, in order for the weight of the boots to be nullified by the speed of which Link would be traveling, he would have to have a great amount of speed before putting on the boots, which is impossible because he would be able to put the boots on while running that fast, and if he were to put the boots on first he wouldn’t be able to pick up enough speed to nullify the weight of the boots...
Also just to blow your threory completly out of the water, the fast an object moves the heavier it becomes, so even if Link were to pick up enough speed to travel that quickly while wearing the boots, he’d probably start to crater the ground he steps on, therefore causing the ground to become too uneven and thus loosing speed.
And about the dispel thing, I was wrong about the name of the materia, and if you look at my definition, you’ll see that I said Esuna cures all statuses, ones caused by materia, attacks, or anything else.
no he wouldn’t already need to be moving because he is strogn enough to move with the boots on so all he needs is a little momentum, which he already has and he can just zip along
and the faster something moves does not make it heavier
it technically makes it lighter ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
| | | 21 Jun 2006 05:22 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1,010 OFFLINE | When Link wears the magic cape he is protected against every attack in the game, including the final boss Ganon. He is still however able to slash enemies with his sword. Now I’m not sure if Link actually goes to another plane, it was just the best way to explain it.
Now don’t forget the magic cape isn’t a staus effect either it’s a peice of equipment like the ribbon. The ribbon bascially casts resist on the wearer but the effect is not cancelled from Esuna, and I’m not sure Esuna is a status effect since those usally stick with your character. Therefore the effects of magic cape wouldn’t be cancelled either, since it falls into the same category as ribbon.
Did this site go down lately? It wasn’t showing up for a while. Last edited 21 Jun 2006 05:23 pm by MetaHybrid | | | 21 Jun 2006 09:17 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | the21gamer wrote:
Cid wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Cid wrote:
I don’t think that Sora and Link can win, to be completly honest, the reason I called for a tie in the Link versus Cloud argument was because I was too fixed on the new Smash Brothers, I don’t think that Link could beat Cloud all out, Sora could take on Sonic, but Sora wouldn’t stand a chance against Cloud, Link could beat Sonic, and Cloud could beat sonic, basically Sonic is the weakest link in this fight, by Cloud can power Sonic up with big guard and haste, especially haste, if Cloud did Haste top double Sonic’s speed, Sonic would be untouchable, especially in Super mode, Sonic would provide a distraction while Cloud casted Knights of the Round to kill Sora and Link, but Link would come back to life, so Cloud would have to kill him again, and again, and again, which given the right materia combo, would be possible for an infinite amount of time, All Sonic would need to do after the initial KOTR is keep Link from reviving Sora or activating Naryu’s love, then again, if Cloud casted Silence on Link then that would prevent Link from using anything that involves his magic meter, which means Link would have to do close combat or use the bow, but Sonic is so fast thanks to Haste, that the bow would be useless against him and Cloud could deflect the arrows.
As for the Bunny Hood and Iron Boots, the reason Link is so slow with the boots is because the boots weigh so much (hints the reason he will sink in water) So the Bunny hood wouldn’t help his movements while he has the boots on, all it does is accelerate the person’s body, not increase their physical strength.
actually if ur fast enough the weight won’t mean anything
just like if u pick up something fast it doesn’t require much strength and effort
but if u do it slow then it requires more
But, in order for the weight of the boots to be nullified by the speed of which Link would be traveling, he would have to have a great amount of speed before putting on the boots, which is impossible because he would be able to put the boots on while running that fast, and if he were to put the boots on first he wouldn’t be able to pick up enough speed to nullify the weight of the boots...
Also just to blow your threory completly out of the water, the fast an object moves the heavier it becomes, so even if Link were to pick up enough speed to travel that quickly while wearing the boots, he’d probably start to crater the ground he steps on, therefore causing the ground to become too uneven and thus loosing speed.
And about the dispel thing, I was wrong about the name of the materia, and if you look at my definition, you’ll see that I said Esuna cures all statuses, ones caused by materia, attacks, or anything else.
no he wouldn’t already need to be moving because he is strogn enough to move with the boots on so all he needs is a little momentum, which he already has and he can just zip along
and the faster something moves does not make it heavier
it technically makes it lighter
1. The length of an object is a function of the speed at which it is traveling. The faster the object travels, the shorter the object becomes.
2. The mass of an object is also a function of the speed at which it is traveling. The faster the object travels, the heavier it becomes.
3. Time slows down as an object increases in speed.
Einstein’s Theory of Relativity, the faster an object travels the heavier it becomes.
Also, Link wouldn’t be able to build up enough momentum while wearing the iron boots, he can barley walk in them to begin with, and if you really want to use the boots you can but all Cloud need do is use quake to break the ground undernethe Link up, with the ground broken up Link would lose momentum and thus become a sitting duck. ---
 Last edited 21 Jun 2006 09:19 pm by Cid | | | 21 Jun 2006 09:20 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,448 OFFLINE | MetaHybrid wrote:
When Link wears the magic cape he is protected against every attack in the game, including the final boss Ganon. He is still however able to slash enemies with his sword. Now I’m not sure if Link actually goes to another plane, it was just the best way to explain it.
Now don’t forget the magic cape isn’t a staus effect either it’s a peice of equipment like the ribbon. The ribbon bascially casts resist on the wearer but the effect is not cancelled from Esuna, and I’m not sure Esuna is a status effect since those usally stick with your character. Therefore the effects of magic cape wouldn’t be cancelled either, since it falls into the same category as ribbon.
Did this site go down lately? It wasn’t showing up for a while.
Yeah the site did go down for a bit...
Does the cape use up Link’s Magic while he is wearing it? ---
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