| 13 Jun 2006 12:33 am |
Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 538 OFFLINE | goku & vegeta v.s obi-wan & anakin wich team would come out the victor?
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| 13 Jun 2006 01:40 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 33  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | force choke
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 the21gamer wrote:
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| 13 Jun 2006 02:10 am |
Regular Rep: 0Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 538 OFFLINE | thats the power of a sith lord not a jedi but anakin is a sith lord isnt he?
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| 13 Jun 2006 08:24 am |
21 Guest | jedi can use it too
mace did alogn with others
they just don’t use it like teh sith do
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| 13 Jun 2006 12:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1 Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,827 OFFLINE | the jedis would win
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| 13 Jun 2006 06:32 pm |
Regular Rep: 0Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 538 OFFLINE | DUDE I LOVE YOUR AVATAR WHERE DID YOU GET IT?
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| 13 Jun 2006 06:48 pm |
EB V3 Guest | The Super Sayins are legendary warriors who kicked around the most feared tyrant in universe, hell even beings that could blow up planets were afraid of him (Vegeta could blow up planets, even Nappa may have been able to crush the Earth with one attack), and all this fear was of Freiza’s first from, not his uber 100% Final Form which SSJ Son Goku kicked around. Frieza had the wind knocked out of him by the Genkai Dama, then he got kicked around by SSJ Goku, sliced into 3 pecies(arm,legs, and the upper torso).Freza gets pissed though and fires a cchi blast which Goku easily blast through with his own chi blast, presumbly killing Frieza. Then Namek explodes with a severly weakened Frieza still on it. Frieza comes to Earth after a year, then is almost instantly killed by SSJ Trunks.
Mind you the Super Sayin that killed Frieza is a weakling compared to what he and the other Super Sayins are when they fight Cell and the Androids, Frieza is a laughable foe when 17 and 18 are put on the scene. The movements of the Z fighters became near impossible to track with the naked eye back in Dragonball, and being able to move faster than the naked eye can follow and the ability to destroy the moon are nothing compared to what a SSJ can do.
SSJS win.
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| 13 Jun 2006 06:48 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,827 OFFLINE | baus man wrote:
DUDE I LOVE YOUR AVATAR WHERE DID YOU GET IT?
Oh thx i found it on googles hey if you like this one i also have a kadaj one as well =-)
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| 13 Jun 2006 06:51 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,827 OFFLINE | whoss ssjs?
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| 13 Jun 2006 07:03 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 33Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | EB V3 wrote:
The Super Sayins are legendary warriors who kicked around the most feared tyrant in universe, hell even beings that could blow up planets were afraid of him (Vegeta could blow up planets, even Nappa may have been able to crush the Earth with one attack), and all this fear was of Freiza’s first from, not his uber 100% Final Form which SSJ Son Goku kicked around. Frieza had the wind knocked out of him by the Genkai Dama, then he got kicked around by SSJ Goku, sliced into 3 pecies(arm,legs, and the upper torso).Freza gets pissed though and fires a cchi blast which Goku easily blast through with his own chi blast, presumbly killing Frieza. Then Namek explodes with a severly weakened Frieza still on it. Frieza comes to Earth after a year, then is almost instantly killed by SSJ Trunks.
Mind you the Super Sayin that killed Frieza is a weakling compared to what he and the other Super Sayins are when they fight Cell and the Androids, Frieza is a laughable foe when 17 and 18 are put on the scene. The movements of the Z fighters became near impossible to track with the naked eye back in Dragonball, and being able to move faster than the naked eye can follow and the ability to destroy the moon are nothing compared to what a SSJ can do.
SSJS win.
Yes, but the jedi have the force
plus the super saiyans r pretty weak minded too
jedi have natural forsight
lightning quick reflexes
and they can just crush the saiyans with the particles around them
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the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
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| 13 Jun 2006 09:41 pm |
EB V3 Guest | But most Jedi had trouble hell, Mundi was on the Counsle, obviously not the most powerful Jedi, but fairly close and he was taken by surprise and shot down by the clones. Put an SSJ in that situation and Goku would be able to block all those shots with one finger, then disappear and reappear behind them, and one blast would end that. Palpetine and Yoda had fought and they wern’t nearly as fast as the SSJs, nor would throwing stuff(like those pods) at them help in anyway.
Force Crushing would not work. In his fight with Yakon, Goku dodged the swipes from noticing the air vibes that Yakons claws made, so when the Jedi use the Force in a manner to crush the Sayins, the Sayins would notice the air vibes and doge them or something. The Sayins aren’t weak minded either, maybe one track minded, but not weak minded. Vegeta resisted Babidi’s mind control!(Which no one else who had any evil in their heart had done)
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| 14 Jun 2006 12:28 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 33Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | yeah, they were attacked when their backs were turned
if Goku had his back turned they could easily do the same to him
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the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
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| 14 Jun 2006 01:32 am |
Regular Rep: 0Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 538 OFFLINE | yeah and do you realize what would happen to goku if that lightsaber even touched him plus you cant evade a force choke you cant grab it or run from it once the user has you,he decides whether or not you live or die, goku would die...if the jedi could get a hold of him
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| 14 Jun 2006 12:53 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,827 OFFLINE | baus man wrote:
yeah and do you realize what would happen to goku if that lightsaber even touched him plus you cant evade a force choke you cant grab it or run from it once the user has you,he decides whether or not you live or die, goku would die...if the jedi could get a hold of him
yah actually a jedi would win but depends which jedi like yoda would kill a saiyan easy or darth vader. or emperor palpatine and (he cant even walk that good he floats).and mace windu would crush him just like he did to greivous in the clone wars cartoon series.
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| 14 Jun 2006 01:25 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 2 Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | baus man wrote:
yeah and do you realize what would happen to goku if that lightsaber even touched him plus you cant evade a force choke you cant grab it or run from it once the user has you,he decides whether or not you live or die, goku would die...if the jedi could get a hold of him
first they deal with energy attacks all the time... a stupid lightsaber isn’t going to do much compared to energy blasts that could destroy a city... and force choke... who says that the jedi would even have enough strength to do that... Goku’s skin alone is probably ten times stronger that steel... and he could just warp out of it the moment they caught him... besides he could simply fly up to the atmosphere shoot down a huge beam and watch them get blown to hell... so what if they can see it coming... they can’t run five miles in 5 seconds so they would still get toasted...
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| 14 Jun 2006 02:04 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,827 OFFLINE | well then they will go to their ship lol
and if they die they will use a jedi trick in which they turn to the force and so they will kill goku like that
and the force shoke is a easy skill to accomplish
and gokus blast will power their lightsabers
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| 14 Jun 2006 05:29 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 33Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | dark99 wrote:
baus man wrote:
yeah and do you realize what would happen to goku if that lightsaber even touched him plus you cant evade a force choke you cant grab it or run from it once the user has you,he decides whether or not you live or die, goku would die...if the jedi could get a hold of him
first they deal with energy attacks all the time... a stupid lightsaber isn’t going to do much compared to energy blasts that could destroy a city... and force choke... who says that the jedi would even have enough strength to do that... Goku’s skin alone is probably ten times stronger that steel... and he could just warp out of it the moment they caught him... besides he could simply fly up to the atmosphere shoot down a huge beam and watch them get blown to hell... so what if they can see it coming... they can’t run five miles in 5 seconds so they would still get toasted...
they don’t deal with energy
dragonballs aren NOT the same type of energy and power as lightsabers, which also draw upon the force
and lightsabers cut through anything
how is Goku going to take a blow from a lightsaber
plus the jedi don’t even need lightsabers when they have the force
next they don’t need to be as strong as Superman to force choke Goku
it’s using the force, not strength
and the force can crush anything, Goku
and skin is not going to protect Goku from a choke
and no matter how strogn his skin is a lightsaber can always cut through it
and no, Goku can’t just warp out of it because he is trapped by the force
plus how is Goku going to deal with everysingle particle crushing him too death and suffocating him if the jedi decide to use a force crush
or how bout if the jedi absorb his life
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| 14 Jun 2006 05:45 pm |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 2Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | the21gamer wrote:
dark99 wrote:
baus man wrote:
yeah and do you realize what would happen to goku if that lightsaber even touched him plus you cant evade a force choke you cant grab it or run from it once the user has you,he decides whether or not you live or die, goku would die...if the jedi could get a hold of him
first they deal with energy attacks all the time... a stupid lightsaber isn’t going to do much compared to energy blasts that could destroy a city... and force choke... who says that the jedi would even have enough strength to do that... Goku’s skin alone is probably ten times stronger that steel... and he could just warp out of it the moment they caught him... besides he could simply fly up to the atmosphere shoot down a huge beam and watch them get blown to hell... so what if they can see it coming... they can’t run five miles in 5 seconds so they would still get toasted...
they don’t deal with energy
dragonballs aren NOT the same type of energy and power as lightsabers, which also draw upon the force
and lightsabers cut through anything
how is Goku going to take a blow from a lightsaber
plus the jedi don’t even need lightsabers when they have the force
next they don’t need to be as strong as Superman to force choke Goku
it’s using the force, not strength
and the force can crush anything, Goku
and skin is not going to protect Goku from a choke
and no matter how strogn his skin is a lightsaber can always cut through it
and no, Goku can’t just warp out of it because he is trapped by the force
plus how is Goku going to deal with everysingle particle crushing him too death and suffocating him if the jedi decide to use a force crush
or how bout if the jedi absorb his life
oh really the force can crush anything... then why not simply use the force to destroy whatever they wanted...
if jedi’s can do all that stuff then how do they loose to a bunch of clone troopers... and the force isn’t that powerful... it doesn’t instantly crush anything you use it on... you first have to concentrate a lot and the strength of the attack is relative to the individuals skills... if he is not strong enough than the force attacks won’t be that strong either...
how about goku simply flies up shoots an energy blast and watches them die...
or moves faster than the speed of sound warps behind them and punches a hole through them...
and yes goku could warp out of force choke because being held by any kind of force doesn’t affect you when you teleport away... and goku and super saiyans can also fly making them unreachable by jedi...
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| 14 Jun 2006 07:18 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 33Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | no the force is not determined by the strength of somone
Windu is stronger than Yoda but not anywhere near as strong as Yoda is in the force
the jedi' power in the force is not determined by how much they can bench
same as Goku whose blasts' power is not determined by how strong he is
strength and magic r 2 separate things, don’t combine them
and if u watched the cartoons, read the books, and read the comics
u would see one jedi take on an entire army of people
they just choose to restrain themselves most of the time
it indeed takes concentration but that does not mean they have to just stand there
u notice how jedi uset he force but they don’t stand there like idiots
and actually yes he force can be used to destroy entire planets and even the galaxy but only by the really strong and demented sith
and Goku is only 1 person
not an entire army
so the jedi only needs to concentrate on him and no one else
and the force can be used to prevent teleportation
anyways as i said before they can just suck up his life with the force
no need for choking
and teh force can be used to absorb Goku’s blasts and even to send them right back at him
and jedi can easily defeat flying targets
it’s called the force
the can just freaking force pull em or whatever else they want to do
and jedi can move faster than then speed of sound if they if they r strong enough in the force
and don’t mix up the force with a force
because the force is within every living thing
so Goku can be limited by the force
and he cna also be slown down lik hell or even paralyzed
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ramunematt wrote:
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| 14 Jun 2006 08:06 pm |
EB V3 Guest | the21gamer wrote:
no the force is not determined by the strength of somone
Windu is stronger than Yoda but not anywhere near as strong as Yoda is in the force
the jedi' power in the force is not determined by how much they can bench
same as Goku whose blasts' power is not determined by how strong he is
strength and magic r 2 separate things, don’t combine them
and if u watched the cartoons, read the books, and read the comics
u would see one jedi take on an entire army of people
they just choose to restrain themselves most of the time
it indeed takes concentration but that does not mean they have to just stand there
u notice how jedi uset he force but they don’t stand there like idiots
and actually yes he force can be used to destroy entire planets and even the galaxy but only by the really strong and demented sith
and Goku is only 1 person
not an entire army
so the jedi only needs to concentrate on him and no one else
and the force can be used to prevent teleportation
anyways as i said before they can just suck up his life with the force
no need for choking
and teh force can be used to absorb Goku’s blasts and even to send them right back at him
and jedi can easily defeat flying targets
it’s called the force
the can just freaking force pull em or whatever else they want to do
and jedi can move faster than then speed of sound if they if they r strong enough in the force
and don’t mix up the force with a force
because the force is within every living thing
so Goku can be limited by the force
and he cna also be slown down lik hell or even paralyzed
Um first off there is now way in freakin hell the Jedi would be able absorb a chi blast when Yoda, the most powerful Jedi struggled to stop Palpetines Force Lighting.
Secondly taking on an entire army is something Goku had little trouble with after training with Korin, and I that Goku wouldn’t even last a nano-second against a Super Sayin(Also few Jedi would be able to take on an entire army, because most of them git owned by the CIS or Clones, and in episode 2 they mentioned that they were not enough Jedi to fight the entire army of the CIS). Palpetine is the strongest Sith and if he could destroy a planet or galaxy, then the Death Star would be completely useless, why the hell would he build the thing in the first place?
This is Jedi vs SSJs, and you said the Jedi could destroy an army yet they’d lose because they have to concentrate on many people at once.
Goku isn’t even the stronget SSJ warrior either. If you want to count fusion Gotenks and Vegito are much stronger and so is Chou Gohan(He’s not really an SSJ but he’s still a hell of a lot stronger than Goku) By Buu saga most Z warriors move at lightspeed so sound is only regular Sonic’s speed which is nothing compared to the Z warrior’s speed. The force is not as powerful as the chi of a Sayin.
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