RageOverdose wrote:
Is Squall of Seed’s called “The True Meaning Behind FFVII”, an angelfire site? If it is, I’ve debunked it...
It’s something like that, I can’t really remember
RageOverdose wrote:
Since Sephiroth can control Jenova and Cloud while being encased, I wouldn’t be surprised if he could control himself as well. However, you forget something. Aerith (I prefer that name, call her what you wish). She still had a say in things after her death. She had something to do with that.
That tends to be the reaction that I get when I mention that part of the theory, but it seems like Midgar would be a better source of energy, it also has the the 8... 6 Mako reactors and the sister ray.
RageOverdose wrote:
He is, of course, referring to the Lifestream.
Exactly
RageOverdose wrote:
No. See, if that was the case, then Jenova wouldn’t be in the Crater either. Her head arrived there due to Sephiroth carrying it with him. She wouldn’t have moved, because he left her dormant until needed. Something else you need to know, Jenova is instinctive. She will do what her instinct tells her above all, and that is to reunite with all those carrying her cells. Sephiroth included. She wouldn’t be there for the Reunion if Sephiroth wasn’t. Also, if you read the Ultimania (Ultimecia...Why was I thinking of FFVII?) Guide, it mentions this...
Well the real Sephiroth was in the crater for a time, I said that he floated to midgar after the Weapons awoke. Also, even though Jenova is an instinctive creature Sephiroth still holds control over it, so if he wanted Jenova to stay in the Crater, Jenova would have stayed in that crater. The reunion was to reunite her body, and if you payed close enough attention, the reunion took place in the crater, that’s why all the Sephiroth clones were traveling to the crater, for the reunion, also note that the Clones weren’t going to the crater for Jenova, they were going for Sephiroth.
Ultimania Guide to FFVII wrote:
After fighting Bizarro Sephiroth and Safer Sephiroth, Cloud has a final 1-on-1 battle with Sephiroth in the spiritual realm. Although the ego of this Sephiroth Clone was stricken with an inferiority complex in the past, Cloud fights on and achieves victory in the end.
RageOverdose wrote:
If you notice, it not only calls them Sephiroth, but it also mentions a final 1-on-1 battle in the Spiritual Realm. Take that as you will, but it sounds to me that they’ve been fighting him all along in the Crater, now Cloud just has to rid his spirit from the Lifestream. Of course, he fails, but that’s something else.
It does say spiritual relm, which would mean the lifestream, but remember what Vincent said in the movie, every human has something similar to the lifestream in their bodies, so it could still very well mean that Cloud was trying to purge Sephiroth, or more precisely, the Jenova Cells in his body away, and that’s what the final 1 on 1 confrontaion could be.
RageOverdose wrote:
Ever heard of rotation?
no j/k
okay I didn’t take that into count
RageOverdose wrote:
If I remember correctly, the game never mentions where he wishes to hit, but that Meteor is strong enough to cause such damage to where the bulk of Lifestream will emerge and begin to take action, in which he can perform the Reunion with the Lifestream, engulf the Planet, and become a “god”.
The game never does mention where Meteor was going to hit, but it is assumed that because you fight “Sephiroth” in the crater that that is where Meteor was intended to hit.
RageOverdose wrote:
The injury is a mass hit on the Planet. The entire Planet was to be injured. Where was he? In the Planet’s core.
The injury wouldn’t have completly destroyed the planet, we know this because meteor has struck the plenet before, that’s how the Northern Crater was formed, and as you saw at the end of the game, being at the Planet’s core wouldn’t do Sephiroth much good, the lifestream came up from the surface to stop meteor, so if Sephiroth really was at the core he wouldn’t have been able to gather the sprirt energy.
RageOverdose wrote:
Yes he did. He had control of her. In essence, he did everything, using Jenova as a scapegoat.
yep
RageOverdose wrote:
She had activated Holy before she died. Sephiroth held it back. Wasn’t that a major part of the story?
while in the forgotten capital (or maybe it was after that while on the highwind) Cloud says that they’re holding on to Aerith’s memories and that they aren’t allowing her spirit to reach the lifestream so that she could do what she needed to do.
RageOverdose wrote:
It failed originally. See, upon entering the atmosphere, Meteor was strengthened by the Planet’s gravity and its own. It was pushing too much onto Holy. Aeris, along with Zack, used the Lifestream as a baseball bat, knocking Meteor out of the atmosphere, thus making it weaker. Holy then could pound it down.
that was a retorical question, we really don’t know if Holy suceeded or not, Holy’s purpose was to eliminate anything that was endagering the planet, however all signs point to it failing, Sephiroth is still around (probably) Jenova is definitly still around (Advent Children) and most importantly, the one thing that was slowing killing the planet was still around, humans.
RageOverdose wrote:
Look, your theory is very impressive, well thought out, and has stuff to back it up, but, I don’t agree with it.
A lot of people don’t agree with it, I said that in the post.
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