| 30 Jun 2006 07:31 pm |
21gamer Guest | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
adamantium doesn’t protect from heat, it heats up just like any other metal, while that might not melt the admantium it will melt his brain, plus all his skin and organs would be gone, think about all the bombs on the world and the earth itself going off, thats it, he’d die
but it will protect him from anything flying at him
plus i already said he’s pretty much impervious to heat, lik the hulk
and he can live without his organs
adn his healing is instantaneous, im starting to hate that word | | | | 30 Jun 2006 08:20 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
DestinyGuy678 wrote:
no that was said by a final fantasy expert
So I’m an expert, awesome
yusif2k wrote:
OMG, all the Final Fantasy characters in KH2 were made to be Exactly the same as in the original Final Fantasies; this is different than in KH. The cutscenes even show Cloud and Sephiroth as they appeared in FF7 Advent Children; as well as Tifa and Yuffie; Leon was also changed to be exactly how he was in FF8. You’re listening to False BS made up by a KH hater. You haven’t even played KH2, nor seen any of the FF characters in it.
Yeah, I’m the one who said that the characters in KH were from an alternate deminsion, that is from KH1, and seeing as how KH2 has the exact same people from KH1 then that must mean that the FF characters from II are also from another deminsion, check wikipedia on Kingdom Hearts 1, it’s says something about the character being different from the real crew.
Point is, in KH the ff characters are severly restrained, you can tell that just by looking at the game, Sephiroth can’t be beaten, just look at what Cloud does in Advent Children and what he is capable of in the game, the KH Cloud doesn’t compare.
Also to be clear about KHII, Sora doesn’t actually beat Sephiroth, after the battle is over Sephiroth dusts his coat off and tells you to find Cloud, Sora couldn’t beat Seph if he wanted too.
As for the Seph versus Wolverine fight, I’ll post something a bit later when I have the time to make a giant 5 paragraph post
Exactly. That’s in KH1, where all the Final Fantasy characters were made to look much younger.
Wikipedia wrote:
Kingdom Hearts has been criticized by some Final Fantasy fans for making poor use of the Final Fantasy characters placed in it. For example, several prominent characters are made much younger and do not play a major role in the story.
Wikipedia wrote:
In Kingdom Hearts 2, Squall Leonhart of Final Fantasy VIII, and Cloud Strife, with his own side story, and Yuffie Kisaragi as depicted in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, return as cameos in Hollow Bastion. Aerith Gainsborough also appears, albeit wearing a modified version of her Before Crisis clothing. Tifa Lockhart of Final Fantasy VII also makes her first cameo in the series, wearing her Advent Children attire. Cid Highwind also returns, but he is still wearing the same attire as in the previous game; he has a speaking role this time around as opposed to caption bubbles in Kingdom Hearts. Sephiroth, Cloud’s ever-present enemy, comes along as well, battling Cloud. He is an optional boss.
Cid wrote:
Sora couldn’t beat Sephiroth if he wanted too
How do you know that? Actually, yes he could; if Sephiroth had 50 of his Health Gauges, i could’ve spent an hour kicking his butt; he tried all that he can do, and none of his attacks worked. So yes, Sora could beat him if he wanted to. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 08:42 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 08:28 pm |
21 Guest | isn’t sephiroth immortal | | | 30 Jun 2006 08:33 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
DestinyGuy678 wrote:
no that was said by a final fantasy expert
Square Enix was making KH2, and Final Fantasy Advent Children around the same time. They wanted to make Cloud, Tifa, Yuffie, and Sephiroth the same exact way in KH2. There is no evidence showing that the FF7 characters were weakened in the game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_hearts_2
Good job at posting a link that doesn’t support you (the depicted means appearance...).
That would contradict the series as well if the characters in the first KH were not the same as they were in KHII, because they are the same characters that don’t follow the same stories and capabilities as their original counterparts. The big thing pointing to this is the fact that most of them come from Radient Garden/Hollow Bastion, with Seifer and his gang and Vivi being the exception. Also, the stuff in KH1@2 that is done by the characters is far toned down from their capabilities in the series.
I don’t know much about Wolverine, except he can heal like a mofo, has some kickass adamantium, has some deadly blade (Murasama? Masamune is stronger you know...), and has the ability to teleport.
Hard one...
Wikipedia wrote:
In Kingdom Hearts 2, Squall Leonhart, of Final Fantasy VIII, and Cloud Strife, with his own side story, and Yuffie Kisaragi as depicted in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children return as cameos in Hollow Bastion. Aerith Gainsborough also appears, albeit wearing a modified version of her Before Crisis clothing. Tifa Lockhart of Final Fantasy VII also makes her first cameo in the series, wearing her Advent Children attire. Cid Highwind also returns, but he is still wearing the same attire as in the previous game; he has a speaking role this time around as opposed to caption bubbles in Kingdom Hearts. Sephiroth, Cloud’s ever-present enemy, comes along as well, battling Cloud. He is an optional boss.
If you were listening, i said there’s nothing saying that the Final Fantasy characters were weakened in KH2. That is all i needed to post, to show that nothing says that the Final Fantasy characters were Weakened in the game. You say i make up BS, when you’re the one who makes up the most BS of all people. People of Square Enix were aware of the criticism towards KH1, for making the Final Fantasy characters appear much younger than their actual age. Knowing that, they decided to re-make the characters of FF7 to be exactly the same as in FF7:AC, and Squall exactly how he was in FF8. Last edited 05 Sep 2006 04:45 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 08:52 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | 21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud. i think he is immortal. Last edited 06 Jul 2006 10:38 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 08:56 pm |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
But did they not possess powerful magic?
Wolverine (as far as I know) only has his demonic sword for magical weaponry, would that still be enough to beat Sephiroth? --- -={Amin Wile Ilyamenie Liy End Rimmi Llie}=-
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | I’ll find some solid proof to prove that Vincent isn’t Sephiroth’s freakin' father! Last edited 01 Jul 2006 12:52 am by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 08:58 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | That was said by some random person in a different forum.
LOL!!! Last edited 30 Jun 2006 10:15 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
But did they not possess powerful magic?
Wolverine (as far as I know) only has his demonic sword for magical weaponry, would that still be enough to beat Sephiroth?
Evidently they did. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 09:01 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:00 pm |
bonjour Rep: 3  Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,307 OFFLINE | yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
cloud never faught the real sephiroth, CId stated that, and no sora didn’t he beat sephiroth from an alternate dimension ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
cloud never faught the real sephiroth, CId stated that, and no sora didn’t he beat sephiroth from an alternate dimension
That doesn’t mean he’s weaker. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 10:18 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:03 pm |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | yusif2k wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
But did they not possess powerful magic?
Wolverine (as far as I know) only has his demonic sword for magical weaponry, would that still be enough to beat Sephiroth?
Evidently they did.
Ok...so then for the most part unless Wolverine has some impressive magical artillery that I may not know of (and if you know of anything like that please do inform me) Sephiroth would be immortal to Wolverine’s attacks.
So we’ve gotten pretty much nowhere with that... --- -={Amin Wile Ilyamenie Liy End Rimmi Llie}=-
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bonjour Rep: 3  Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,307 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
But did they not possess powerful magic?
Wolverine (as far as I know) only has his demonic sword for magical weaponry, would that still be enough to beat Sephiroth?
Evidently they did.
Ok...so then for the most part unless Wolverine has some impressive magical artillery that I may not know of (and if you know of anything like that please do inform me) Sephiroth would be immortal to Wolverine’s attacks.
So we’ve gotten pretty much nowhere with that...
Why the heck are we talking about sora, look yusif we’ve proved you wrong many times, now you a really pissing people off (or at least me) if you wanna talk about sora, make your own topic, and watch it drown, not on other topics ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
If you would listen you would have heard that sephiorth was weaken beacuse thats a sephiroth from a different universe.
That’s like saying Ryu Hayabusa was weakened in Dead or Alive 4 because he was in a different universe, or that Spawn was weakened in Soul Calibur 2, because he was in a different universe. That’s just retarded, unless there was something actually saying that it is true. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 09:20 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:15 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
But did they not possess powerful magic?
Wolverine (as far as I know) only has his demonic sword for magical weaponry, would that still be enough to beat Sephiroth?
Evidently they did.
Ok...so then for the most part unless Wolverine has some impressive magical artillery that I may not know of (and if you know of anything like that please do inform me) Sephiroth would be immortal to Wolverine’s attacks.
So we’ve gotten pretty much nowhere with that...
Why the heck are we talking about sora, look yusif we’ve proved you wrong many times, now you a really pissing people off (or at least me) if you wanna talk about sora, make your own topic, and watch it drown, not on other topics
No, you haven’t proven anything ever since you started posting on these forums; just stated your opinion. Nothing says that the Final Fantasy characters were weakened in the game. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 09:57 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:31 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Yeah, I’m the one who said that the characters in KH were from an alternate deminsion, that is from KH1, and seeing as how KH2 has the exact same people from KH1 then that must mean that the FF characters from II are also from another dimension
Really? Tell me this then. During the cutscene of the fight between Cloud and Sephiroth, they rise up in the sky, and then vanish. Donald then says, “Where’d they go?". Then Goofy replies, “Do you think they might’ve made it back to their own world?". Sora then says, “Cloud went to go fight an important battle”. If they’re alternate versions of themselves, then how did they make it back to their own world? Last edited 30 Jun 2006 09:58 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:31 pm |
21 Guest | yusif2k wrote:
DestinyGuy678 wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
21 wrote:
isn’t sephiroth immortal
He was beaten by Sora and Cloud, so no.
But did they not possess powerful magic?
Wolverine (as far as I know) only has his demonic sword for magical weaponry, would that still be enough to beat Sephiroth?
Evidently they did.
Ok...so then for the most part unless Wolverine has some impressive magical artillery that I may not know of (and if you know of anything like that please do inform me) Sephiroth would be immortal to Wolverine’s attacks.
So we’ve gotten pretty much nowhere with that...
Why the heck are we talking about sora, look yusif we’ve proved you wrong many times, now you a really pissing people off (or at least me) if you wanna talk about sora, make your own topic, and watch it drown, not on other topics
No, you haven’t proven anything ever since you started posting on these forums; just stated your opinion. Nothing says that the Final Fantasy characters were weakened in the game. That’s people’s opinion.
opinions
HAHAHA
u r pathetic
i guess wolverine being stronger in the comics than the movies is people’s opinions
HAHAHA
so if magic is needed to beat sephiroth then wolverine will use magical items
that’s not too hard
but i still say it’s a tie between the 2
and sora is pathetic | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:39 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | 21 wrote:
opinions
HAHAHA
I am pathetic
It’s true that wolverine using a teleporter in battle is pathetically cheap.
HAHAHA
so if magic is needed to beat sephiroth then wolverine will use magical items, considering wolverine has no chance in hell of beating him.
but i still say they both don’t stand a chance against Sora.
and I am pathetic
Right on. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 09:59 pm by yusif2k | | | 30 Jun 2006 09:43 pm |
bonjour Rep: 3  Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,307 OFFLINE | dude that wasn’t funny, and was really stupid ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 2  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
dude that wasn’t funny, and was really stupid
i was making some corrections. Last edited 30 Jun 2006 10:00 pm by yusif2k | | |
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