Cid wrote:
good answer, and I don’t hate Sonic, it’s just I’ve lost interest sense he moved into 3-D
ROFL yea his “new” games wit “new” characters suck and kinda same wit all those mario sports game lol im thinking they both suck
I found both Adventure games to be better than Sonic 3&Knuckles. Most 3D games are very good, and Shadow the Hedgehog has to be the most underrated Sonic game of all time. Sonic 2006 will be off the hook, and I’m betting Wildfire will be good as well.
As for new characters, new characters were added in almost all the 2D games as well.
-Hell Sonic 1 introduced Sonic and Eggman
-Sonic 2 had Tails as the new character
-Sonic CD had Metal Sonic’s and Amy first appearance
-SegaSonic the Hedgehog had Ray and Mighty introduced
-Sonic 3(&Knuckles) included Knuckles as the new character
-Knuckles Chaotix introduced Team Chaotix(Espio Charmy and Vector)
-Fangs the Sniper first appeared in Sonic Triple Trouble
For 3D
-Sonic R(if you wanna count that)-Mecha Knuckles and the Tails Doll
-Sonic Adventure- Tikal, the Chao, and Chaos
-SAdv2-Shadow and Rouge
-Sonic Heros-Omega
-Shadow The Hedgehog-Gun Commander and Black Doom
Practically every Sonic game has had a new character in it. It’s not like when we get to 3D Sega decided to suddenly add in random new characters in it because Sonic now has 3D games.
Weeman wrote:
Shadow the Hedgehog was not underrated. It flat out sucked.
And you forgot E-102 Gamma, the rest of the E-Series, and Big as new characters in SA...
Yeah, but out of the E-Series, Gamma and Omega were the only significant characters, Zero and Beta had very minor roles and they were killed off at the very end of the game, while the other E robots aside from Gamma, Beta, Omega, and Zero were just semi bosses so they didn’t have any real importance. Sonic Battle brings in Chaos Gamma, but it’s not the same Gamma so it’s kinda of new character. As for Big, yeah, I try to forget about Big.
Shadow the Hedgehog was good. Guns weren’t all that of a bad idea, completely unecessary for the Ultimate Life form to being yes, but some of them are kinda fun to use. Besides there is only a few places where the player needs to to use guns, so most of the time, those weapons are optional. Shadow the Hedgehog had a decent story, but aside from the adventure games, none of the Sonic games have had all that great of a story. The game had multiple paths to take, so even compared to Sonic Heros and the 2D games, which had more playable chracters(Yes I know that a second player can control Tails in the 2D games and a 2nd player in Shadow The Hedgehog can control ceartin mission characters) they still had fewer levels and enviroments. In the 2D games and Sonic Heros, it didn’t matter who you played as, all the levels were the same with minmal differences. In ShTh, the even the levels that are the same would have more differences than the levels in the previous games had that were the same. ShTH(either that or Sonic Adv 1) has the largest variety of enviroments. I mean hell, you had Cities, stone ruins, Military bases, Lava based levels, etc etc. Black Bull was a dull boss fight, but other than that most of the boss fighs were pretty good, maybe not the best, but good. The Hero Neutral and Dark also made it so ShTH had more things to do than in most Sonic games. The only thing that I have against how the Chaos Blast and Chaos Control work is that the button to press to actiate the attacks is the same button to press to drop weapons, a way of activating it so you can drop the weapons and do all the other things would’ve been nice too.
Yeah like any game ShTH has flaws, but overall it’s a pretty good game. Out of all the 3D games, Heros was by far closest to the 2D.
Weeman wrote:
Shadow the Hedgehog was not underrated. It flat out sucked.
And you forgot E-102 Gamma, the rest of the E-Series, and Big as new characters in SA...
Yeah, but out of the E-Series, Gamma and Omega were the only significant characters, Zero and Beta had very minor roles and they were killed off at the very end of the game, while the other E robots aside from Gamma, Beta, Omega, and Zero were just semi bosses so they didn’t have any real importance. Sonic Battle brings in Chaos Gamma, but it’s not the same Gamma so it’s kinda of new character. As for Big, yeah, I try to forget about Big.
Shadow the Hedgehog was good. Guns weren’t all that of a bad idea, completely unecessary for the Ultimate Life form to being yes, but some of them are kinda fun to use. Besides there is only a few places where the player needs to to use guns, so most of the time, those weapons are optional. Shadow the Hedgehog had a decent story, but aside from the adventure games, none of the Sonic games have had all that great of a story. The game had multiple paths to take, so even compared to Sonic Heros and the 2D games, which had more playable chracters(Yes I know that a second player can control Tails in the 2D games and a 2nd player in Shadow The Hedgehog can control ceartin mission characters) they still had fewer levels and enviroments. In the 2D games and Sonic Heros, it didn’t matter who you played as, all the levels were the same with minmal differences. In ShTh, the even the levels that are the same would have more differences than the levels in the previous games had that were the same. ShTH(either that or Sonic Adv 1) has the largest variety of enviroments. I mean hell, you had Cities, stone ruins, Military bases, Lava based levels, etc etc. Black Bull was a dull boss fight, but other than that most of the boss fighs were pretty good, maybe not the best, but good. The Hero Neutral and Dark also made it so ShTH had more things to do than in most Sonic games. The only thing that I have against how the Chaos Blast and Chaos Control work is that the button to press to actiate the attacks is the same button to press to drop weapons, a way of activating it so you can drop the weapons and do all the other things would’ve been nice too.
Yeah like any game ShTH has flaws, but overall it’s a pretty good game. Out of all the 3D games, Heros was by far closest to the 2D.
Oh yeah... Sonic Adventure... that was one of the best games for dreamcast next to Soul Caliber and Crazy Taxi. And E 102 Gamma, the misunderstood robot who didn’t want to fight for Eggman’s cause because he thought it was evil and because he had a crush on Amy and wanted to free her...
Weeman wrote:
Shadow the Hedgehog was not underrated. It flat out sucked.
And you forgot E-102 Gamma, the rest of the E-Series, and Big as new characters in SA...
Yeah, but out of the E-Series, Gamma and Omega were the only significant characters, Zero and Beta had very minor roles and they were killed off at the very end of the game, while the other E robots aside from Gamma, Beta, Omega, and Zero were just semi bosses so they didn’t have any real importance. Sonic Battle brings in Chaos Gamma, but it’s not the same Gamma so it’s kinda of new character. As for Big, yeah, I try to forget about Big.
Shadow the Hedgehog was good. Guns weren’t all that of a bad idea, completely unecessary for the Ultimate Life form to being yes, but some of them are kinda fun to use. Besides there is only a few places where the player needs to to use guns, so most of the time, those weapons are optional. Shadow the Hedgehog had a decent story, but aside from the adventure games, none of the Sonic games have had all that great of a story. The game had multiple paths to take, so even compared to Sonic Heros and the 2D games, which had more playable chracters(Yes I know that a second player can control Tails in the 2D games and a 2nd player in Shadow The Hedgehog can control ceartin mission characters) they still had fewer levels and enviroments. In the 2D games and Sonic Heros, it didn’t matter who you played as, all the levels were the same with minmal differences. In ShTh, the even the levels that are the same would have more differences than the levels in the previous games had that were the same. ShTH(either that or Sonic Adv 1) has the largest variety of enviroments. I mean hell, you had Cities, stone ruins, Military bases, Lava based levels, etc etc. Black Bull was a dull boss fight, but other than that most of the boss fighs were pretty good, maybe not the best, but good. The Hero Neutral and Dark also made it so ShTH had more things to do than in most Sonic games. The only thing that I have against how the Chaos Blast and Chaos Control work is that the button to press to actiate the attacks is the same button to press to drop weapons, a way of activating it so you can drop the weapons and do all the other things would’ve been nice too.
Yeah like any game ShTH has flaws, but overall it’s a pretty good game. Out of all the 3D games, Heros was by far closest to the 2D.
Oh yeah... Sonic Adventure... that was one of the best games for dreamcast next to Soul Caliber and Crazy Taxi. And E 102 Gamma, the misunderstood robot who didn’t want to fight for Eggman’s cause because he thought it was evil and because he had a crush on Amy and wanted to free her...
i like sonic for the game gear
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EB V3 wrote:
Okay so something a little different than flat out Mario vs Sonic.
From playing a lot of Sonic games and numerous Sonic games I always thought the Sonic characters had the edge over Mario characters in terms of speed,power, and what not. If there was an all out war between Eggman and his robots(This could include Eggman using one of his own Mechs to fight as well and his Egg Fleet or Sonic/Knuckles based robots, anything that Eggman builds can be used in the argument here) or Bowser and his army(Koopa troopas, Boos,Goombas,Bob-omb,Piranha Plants,Kamek, Bowser/Giga Bowserwhat ever.) who would win?
From playing a lot of Sonic games and numerous Sonic games I always thought the Sonic characters had the edge over Mario characters in terms of speed,power, and what not. Eggman and his robots wouldn’t be an exception. Eggman built powerful robots. His basic Egg Pawns would have no trouble doing away with the average Koopa Troopa. The Egg Pawns Eggman’s own customized gun or often large lances or Rocket Launchers. Some of the Egg Pawns carry strong rock or metal sheilds as well. The E-2000(or was it 20000 I forget) series are red or golden robots that can hover in the air. Their sheilds are nearly indestructable sheilds and their primary weapons are fairly large laser cannons.
The Badnicks are the name of Eggman’s older robots that often resemble an animal or insect. These ones are still strong, though their movements tend to be somewhat more predictible and usually aren’t as tough to beat. I’d say the Buzzbombers could overcome the Koopa Paratroopa seeing as thouh the Buzzbombers are metal bee robots that can shoot out of where a normal bees stinger would be. Bob-Ombs would be tough for some of Eggman’s robots, but in Sonic CD, Eggman has much bigger walking bombs that when they explode, they cover a greater blast range then Bob-Ombs.Egg-Robos are robots that resemble Eggman himself, they have jetpacks and carry blasters with them. Those robots have also been used to pilot Eggman’s Vehicles for him. In Sonic Heros, there are Eggman robots that look just like him and are used to pilot his vehicles as well. Eggman’s has built various vechiles and bases for himself, many of them are much larger than even Giga Bowser. I Sonic 3&Knuckles, Eggman Pilots a huge Robot which fingers could crush Sonic and that robot shot out a large beam powered by the Master Emerald as well. In Shadow the Hedgehog Eggman piloted a very fast Egg Dealer, which was a slot machine in which if he activated all the slots, he would drop bombs, shoot several missles, or release Egg Pawns. The Egg Emperor looked like a giant Egg Pawn that can fly. The Egg Emperor carried a sheild and a lance, and when the Eggman Robot slahed with the lance, there was an energy shockwave that followed.
Several of Eggman’s bases would make Bowser look smaller than an ant. Eggman Had the Death Egg(A spacestation based off of Star Wars Death Star, though not nearly as large it was definatley bigger than any city probably about the size of a small state in US) Of course there is the huge battleship, the Egg Carrier which has multiple cannons along with a giant laser cannon. then of course their is the Egg Fleet.
So umm yeah I’ve heard discussion about this but I don’t think Bowser and his army could stand up to Eggman and his robot army.
this is just sad ee turles and walking mushroom vs dangrous machines this match is alreadt over
Alphakennyone wrote:
Lol if eggman is such a genious how come he couldnt catch Sonic!?HUHHHHHHHH!!!!!?
If bowser was a great villian how come he always resorted to capturing princess peach!
>.<I think their both idiots although id say Bowser.Plus Giga Bowser can break Egg Emperor’s shield since on Sonic Heros u can damage the shield but usally u resort to well umm attacking him when he is on the offensive.Plus his koopa army drop shells when killed so what if they gone rampant when a robot jumps on it letting it spin around in mayhem.The Death Egg lol and the Egg fleet hah!Bowser has koopa troopas that can fly plus he also commands the goombas at his command.Including a fleet of bomb-ombs in which he can drop on his egg fleet!Plus eggman robots are bull shiz.I mean seriously eggman can never catch sonic even if he is a genious because i dont know a wannabe einstein!?Bowser kidnapped mario once in the princess peach game for ds.
hello what part of worlds fastest thing alive didn’t ou get and that’s on sonic.
Alphakennyone wrote:
Lol if eggman is such a genious how come he couldnt catch Sonic!?HUHHHHHHHH!!!!!?
If bowser was a great villian how come he always resorted to capturing princess peach!
>.<I think their both idiots although id say Bowser.Plus Giga Bowser can break Egg Emperor’s shield since on Sonic Heros u can damage the shield but usally u resort to well umm attacking him when he is on the offensive.Plus his koopa army drop shells when killed so what if they gone rampant when a robot jumps on it letting it spin around in mayhem.The Death Egg lol and the Egg fleet hah!Bowser has koopa troopas that can fly plus he also commands the goombas at his command.Including a fleet of bomb-ombs in which he can drop on his egg fleet!Plus eggman robots are bull shiz.I mean seriously eggman can never catch sonic even if he is a genious because i dont know a wannabe einstein!?Bowser kidnapped mario once in the princess peach game for ds.
hello what part of worlds fastest thing alive didn’t ou get and that’s on sonic.
Lol why is it that people uses Sonic’s super speed as his advantage in most versus topics its kinda pathetic i mean cant sonic punch kick and fight or something.Oh and if u sonic fans are gonna mention that Sonic Battle game or that other crappy one dont those 2 games are terrible.Seriously in sonic battle u can search the web enter the cheat to get athis upgrade battle a friend and take him out wit some kinda super constant combo move.Lol ruins the game makes ur ummm whats that robot called Emerl overpowered.Somehow i like most mario games better then Sonic games
Alphakennyone wrote:
Lol if eggman is such a genious how come he couldnt catch Sonic!?HUHHHHHHHH!!!!!?
If bowser was a great villian how come he always resorted to capturing princess peach!
>.<I think their both idiots although id say Bowser.Plus Giga Bowser can break Egg Emperor’s shield since on Sonic Heros u can damage the shield but usally u resort to well umm attacking him when he is on the offensive.Plus his koopa army drop shells when killed so what if they gone rampant when a robot jumps on it letting it spin around in mayhem.The Death Egg lol and the Egg fleet hah!Bowser has koopa troopas that can fly plus he also commands the goombas at his command.Including a fleet of bomb-ombs in which he can drop on his egg fleet!Plus eggman robots are bull shiz.I mean seriously eggman can never catch sonic even if he is a genious because i dont know a wannabe einstein!?Bowser kidnapped mario once in the princess peach game for ds.
hello what part of worlds fastest thing alive didn’t ou get and that’s on sonic.
Lol why is it that people uses Sonic’s super speed as his advantage in most versus topics its kinda pathetic i mean cant sonic punch kick and fight or something.Oh and if u sonic fans are gonna mention that Sonic Battle game or that other crappy one dont those 2 games are terrible.Seriously in sonic battle u can search the web enter the cheat to get athis upgrade battle a friend and take him out wit some kinda super constant combo move.Lol ruins the game makes ur ummm whats that robot called Emerl overpowered.Somehow i like most mario games better then Sonic games
well I have got one thing to say your are a supre critic sonic can fight haven’t played fihters have you really played sonic and if you have which ones.
Alphakennyone wrote:
Lol if eggman is such a genious how come he couldnt catch Sonic!?HUHHHHHHHH!!!!!?
If bowser was a great villian how come he always resorted to capturing princess peach!
>.<I think their both idiots although id say Bowser.Plus Giga Bowser can break Egg Emperor’s shield since on Sonic Heros u can damage the shield but usally u resort to well umm attacking him when he is on the offensive.Plus his koopa army drop shells when killed so what if they gone rampant when a robot jumps on it letting it spin around in mayhem.The Death Egg lol and the Egg fleet hah!Bowser has koopa troopas that can fly plus he also commands the goombas at his command.Including a fleet of bomb-ombs in which he can drop on his egg fleet!Plus eggman robots are bull shiz.I mean seriously eggman can never catch sonic even if he is a genious because i dont know a wannabe einstein!?Bowser kidnapped mario once in the princess peach game for ds.
hello what part of worlds fastest thing alive didn’t ou get and that’s on sonic.
Lol why is it that people uses Sonic’s super speed as his advantage in most versus topics its kinda pathetic i mean cant sonic punch kick and fight or something.Oh and if u sonic fans are gonna mention that Sonic Battle game or that other crappy one dont those 2 games are terrible.Seriously in sonic battle u can search the web enter the cheat to get athis upgrade battle a friend and take him out wit some kinda super constant combo move.Lol ruins the game makes ur ummm whats that robot called Emerl overpowered.Somehow i like most mario games better then Sonic games
well I have got one thing to say your are a supre critic sonic can fight haven’t played fihters have you really played sonic and if you have which ones.
Ive rented and played Sonic Heroes,Sonic Adventure 2 battle(chaos are awesome kinda like pokemon except its not dumb) and Sonic Adventure for the sega dreamcast and some of the sonic advance games i think sonic advance 3 was good since u controlled 2 guys at once.Personally sonic games are kinda average
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