| 21 Jul 2006 01:45 am |
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:47 am |
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:54 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
How’s Roxas gonna get out?
They were separate before so i’m thinking this time they fight alongside each other.
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:55 am |
God of War Guest | Sora and Roxas stand no chance. Dante and Vergil are both stronger seeing as they have there demon blood,faster(Dante once threw his sword rebellion off the top of a tower and it became a flaming meteor, he was at the bottom seconds later to catch it), can take more(in cutscenes Dante had his sword shoved through his body and got up like it was nothing.
Here are links to Dantes moves in the game as well as Vergils.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_May_Cry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_3:_Dante%27s_Awakening
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergil_%28Devil_May_Cry%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_%28Devil_May_Cry%29
Also don’t forget that even if they did start to lose they have Devil Trigger.
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:59 am |
Lord Death Guest | Dante uses Royal Guard and every attack Sora and Roxas use on him is turned into energy. Vergil turns to Nelo Angelo. Dante and Vergil ftw.
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| 21 Jul 2006 03:48 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Then you two obviously know nothing about Sora or his other half. To be honest, i doubt Dante’s speed is as fast as Sora’s; Sora runs at an extremely fast rate. Speed Run is very fast and goes for long distances. The Warp Snipe is many times faster; it’s basically teleporting. The Royal Guard won’t turn their attacks to energy; you must be dreaming. Sora’s Keyblade is a phenomenal weapon. Roxas has the same weapons; he uses two Keyblades: the Oathkeeper and the Oblivion. Keyblades are marvelous, since they hold immense power and even attack on their own. Strike Raid shows the Keyblade attacking enemies and homing in on targets. In KH:COM, the Keyblade attacks several enemies in a single attack. It’s also seen in Deep Dive, when Roxas throws the Oathkeeper, attacking multiple enemies at once. Keyblades could also appear out of nowhere and catch enemies off-gaurd. Sora has many defenses that are unbreachable. For one thing, his Keyblade will not be deflected; it has yet to be, and made other weapons look like play toys. Gaurd Ability deflects anything Vergil or Dante can throw at them. Plus, Sora can create Reflect Barriers, which will deflect Vergil and Dante’s attacks even if they attempted to hit from all sides. The Guard Break would destroy Vergil and Dante’s defenses if not, with not too much effort. Guard Break has never failed and will unlikely fail in this battle. Roxas is about as equally skilled as Sora, though he attacks twice as fast since he fights with two Keyblades. Dante and Vergil have impressive power and skill; Sora and Roxas have great potential too. Sora’s been up against really powerful opponents and defeated them, so try not to underestimate him.
Sora against Cloud, Tifa, Leon, and Yuffie: Paradox Cup
Sora in his Final Form: Cerberus Cup
Movie showing Roxas: Another Side, Another Story
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| 21 Jul 2006 04:01 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Characters can use these weapons:
Sora: Kingdom Key
Roxas: Oathkeeper and Oblivion
Dante: Rebellion
Vergil: Force Edge and Yamato
Characters can also use items and accessories.
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| 21 Jul 2006 04:14 am |
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| 21 Jul 2006 10:46 am |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | yusif2k wrote:
Characters can only use their default weapons and are not allowed transformations.
Sora: Kingdom Key
Roxas: Oathkeeper and Oblivion
Dante: Rebellion
Vergil: Force Edge and Yamato
Just to Clarify, and characters are allowed to use items and accessories.
Vergil doesn’t have Force Edge anymore, Trish has it in the Sparda Sword.
Dante and Vergil also have their long range weapons, I don’t know if you want to leave them out or not. (Ebony and Ivory and Summoned Swords respectivly)
Physically Dante and Vergil are going to be stronger and faster, but what kind of magical maneuvers Sora and Roxas can use I don’t know but it looks like it elevates them past Dante and Vergil’s speed and strength.
The majority of Dante’s and Vergil’s powers come from their weapons and Deviltriggers, at basics they’re generally pathetic unless you put them along side a simple mortal...
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| 21 Jul 2006 11:08 am |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | I’m a pretty big DMC fan myself, but at basics I really don’t think Dante & Vergil can win; at that level, without DT’s and all the other weapons, they’re only a little above human.
Royal Guard would help Dante out, but if he’s guarding infront of him he can still get attacked from behind, and it doesn’t do Vergil any good. Trickster would be better for that, as well that way Dante and Vergil can maneuver faster and get to better points instead of just running.
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| 21 Jul 2006 12:58 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
I’m a pretty big DMC fan myself, but at basics I really don’t think Dante & Vergil can win; at that level, without DT’s and all the other weapons, they’re only a little above human.
Royal Guard would help Dante out, but if he’s guarding infront of him he can still get attacked from behind, and it doesn’t do Vergil any good. Trickster would be better for that, as well that way Dante and Vergil can maneuver faster and get to better points instead of just running.
Yes, but Sora and Roxas will not use special Keyblades like the Fenrir or Ultima Weapon; they’ll be using their default weapons. i saw Vergil before dual-wielding Force Edge and Yamato, so i thought it would be fair since Roxas has the Oathkeeper and Oblivion. So, Roxas could take Vergil, and Sora can fight Dante. Also, Dante and Vergil can use whatever weapons they want let’s make it that way, and Dante and Vergil can use Devil Triggers. They’ll definitely have an advantage, but i still think Sora and Roxas could win since they have their accessories and special abilities. Not to mention they have very powerful weapons that are very like Dante’s and Vergil’s.
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:04 pm |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | Vergil used Beowulf and Yamato before in tandem at the second fight in DMC3, so you could use that as well if you really wanted to...
You did say basics, and basics for Vergil are what he had at the first fight in DMC3. (Yamato and all its moves)
You said you wanted to go by basics, that’s what I’m going by, and at basics the Sparda siblings don’t have a chance.
The styles are default, Dark Slayer for Vergil (Trickster) and whatever Dante chooses (Royal Guard, Trickster, Swordmaster, Gunslinger, NOT ALL OF THE ABOVE)
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:42 pm |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | You know I’m waiting to see if some DMC fan will come in here and start calling me a retard because I don’t know anything about Devil May Cry because I’m saying that at Dante and Vergil’s basics they’re only a couple steps higher then a normal human and that at that level Sora and Roxas could beat them...
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 12  Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,005 OFFLINE | wut about summoning powers for sora? Genie anyone??? and remember, Sora beat sephiroth... ewww...
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:56 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 12  Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,005 OFFLINE | sora also beats the GOD of the underworld... HADES!
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| 21 Jul 2006 01:58 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 81  Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,385 OFFLINE | Let’s not mix the FF characters from KH into this, I’ve already stated that the FF characters were weakened when put into KH.
Anywho, I’ll go with what TR says, at basics, Sora and Roxas would probably win.
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| 21 Jul 2006 02:22 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 1  Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Let’s not mix the FF characters from KH into this, I’ve already stated that the FF characters were weakened when put into KH.
Anywho, I’ll go with what TR says, at basics, Sora and Roxas would probably win.
No Cid, i’ve told you your thoughts are incorrect. FF characters were not weakened in KH2. Nothing says that and only the makers of the game can make that statement. The FF7 characters in KH2 were made exactly as they were in FF7:AC. They may have been weaker in KH. In KH2, the Final Fantasy characters were technically the ones that appeared in FF games. Sephiroth used his most devastating attacks and Sora came out on top. Sephiroth was defeated though he was still in one piece. Sora also beat Cloud, Tifa, Squall, and Yuffie in the Paradox Cup.
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| 21 Jul 2006 02:25 pm |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | Anyhow I don’t think it much matters with the Final Fantasy/ Kingdom Hearts differences, what matters is the characters.
The little, minute differences between the two games (if there even are any) aren’t going to make that much of a difference.
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| 21 Jul 2006 03:46 pm |
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| 21 Jul 2006 04:21 pm |
The Pendragon Rep: 34  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 48,244 OFFLINE | Well even at max power (except for Dante, if you give him the Sparda Sword he’s a practical demi-god, took out Mundus and he is a 'god' so to speak) Dante and Vergil are quite weak compared to the max of Sora and Roxas.
Vergil’s Nelo Angelo form actually isn’t that much more powerful then Vergil with Force Edge, Nelo Angelo is MUCH slower then normal Vergil and much more bulky, though he can take a beating and litteratly walk through it, that doesn’t make him immortal, he takes damage and consecutive hits like what Roxas was dealing in that last video would take him out.
(this is just to sort of start up the debate again)
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