#81 14 Jun 2007 02:58 am |
Vengence X Guest | Metal Screamer couldn’t have put it better, I used to love rap, but than I sobered up and said, “What the fuck?". I realized how much better metal was.
METAL KICKS YOUR’S AND EVERYONE ELSE’S ASS!!!!!!!!!!
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 | #82 15 Jun 2007 03:57 am |
MetalScreamer Guest | Amen to that.
| | #83 15 Jun 2007 11:57 am |
bonjour Rep: 2  Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,307 OFFLINE | MetalScreamer wrote:
Honestly. I used to love rap. and now i love Rock/Metal. Trust me. Metal/Rock is 10,000 times better. I mean think about it. All rappers do is talk behind a polyphonic beat. In Rock/Metal, they have to learn instruments, play instruments, learn to read notes, wright music, SING ((while playing instruments, (Most of the Time)) SCREAM (without blowing their vocal chords), and the lyrics are ALWAYS different. Have you ever researched how hard it is to Scream...You have NO idea. However, I’m sure that I CAN rap fairly easily if I wanted to.
Rap: Retards Attempting Poetry.
All they do is make a beautiful poem about how hard they shot up a liquor store. I could’ve written the same “song” in 2nd Grade.
I’m just saying, the amount of skill and intelligence in Rock/Metal out performs Rap on EVERY aspect. Therefore there is no real debate. And that my friend is why rappers don’t deserve my respect.
..I’ve heard metal...it’s screaming...like your name suggests, honestly I ca like sometimes of rock but stuff like death metal black metal thats just not good at all,
metal screamer there are babies not even 2 hours old who can scream, does that make it death metal no, it makes it better than death metal
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 | | #84 22 Jun 2007 12:44 pm |
ROCK AND RAP BOTH SUCK Guest | RAP AND ROCK BOTH SUCK. WHAT THE FUCK, WHY ARE YOU GUY’S ARGUING??? RAP AND ROCK ARE THE SAME: THE CLASSICS WERE GOOD. DAS EFX IN 1986 WAS THE BEST RAP GROUP EVER, UNLIKE GAYASS 50 CENT. THE BEATLES KICKED ROCK ASS, YET GAY BANDS LIKE GREENDAY JUST KILLED ROCK. MUSIC IS DEAD AS WE KNOW IT.
| | #85 22 Jun 2007 12:46 pm |
ROCK AND RAP BOTH SUCK Guest | no offense man but NOW rap AND rock BOTH SUCK. WHAT THE FUCK, WHY ARE YOU GUY’S ARGUING??? RAP AND ROCK ARE THE SAME: THE CLASSICS WERE GOOD. DAS EFX IN 1986 WAS THE BEST RAP GROUP EVER, UNLIKE GAYASS 50 CENT. THE BEATLES KICKED ROCK ASS, YET GAY BANDS LIKE GREENDAY JUST KILLED ROCK. MUSIC IS DEAD AS WE KNOW IT.
| | #86 22 Jun 2007 12:48 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 18  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,745 OFFLINE | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
MetalScreamer wrote:
Honestly. I used to love rap. and now i love Rock/Metal. Trust me. Metal/Rock is 10,000 times better. I mean think about it. All rappers do is talk behind a polyphonic beat. In Rock/Metal, they have to learn instruments, play instruments, learn to read notes, wright music, SING ((while playing instruments, (Most of the Time)) SCREAM (without blowing their vocal chords), and the lyrics are ALWAYS different. Have you ever researched how hard it is to Scream...You have NO idea. However, I’m sure that I CAN rap fairly easily if I wanted to.
Rap: Retards Attempting Poetry.
All they do is make a beautiful poem about how hard they shot up a liquor store. I could’ve written the same “song” in 2nd Grade.
I’m just saying, the amount of skill and intelligence in Rock/Metal out performs Rap on EVERY aspect. Therefore there is no real debate. And that my friend is why rappers don’t deserve my respect.
..I’ve heard metal...it’s screaming...like your name suggests, honestly I ca like sometimes of rock but stuff like death metal black metal thats just not good at all,
metal screamer there are babies not even 2 hours old who can scream, does that make it death metal no, it makes it better than death metal
Do you know how hard it is to actually do those vocals? How much damage you can do to your throat if you dont do them properly? And if you think death metal aint good, then you try playing Cryptopsy, or death, or deicide, or possessed, or cannibal corpse. Dont diss what you dont understand.
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 | | #87 22 Jun 2007 12:53 pm |
GeTtIn mOnEy Guest | wtf why you hatin on rap!! yes some of us rap fans already KNOW rap doesn’t take as much talent as rock, but WHO GIVES A SHIT. guys im not gonna say anythin bout rock cuz its jus gonna waist my time. my dad who hates rap loves classic rock like black sabbath, n im from a black family. im just sayin stop hatin on rap cuz we think it sounds coo.
| | #88 22 Jun 2007 12:56 pm |
Fuh Q Guest | hey man i agree with you. i like old school rap too, now rap just sucks floppy donkey dick . it gets really repetitive, all about hoes, shootin,, pussy, da hood, shoes and drugs. alot of pussies like 50 cent wish they were in da hood. MOBB DEEP ALL DA WAY!!
| | #89 22 Jun 2007 12:57 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 18  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,745 OFFLINE | GeTtIn mOnEy wrote:
wtf why you hatin on rap!! yes some of us rap fans already KNOW rap doesn’t take as much talent as rock, but WHO GIVES A SHIT. guys im not gonna say anythin bout rock cuz its jus gonna waist my time. my dad who hates rap loves classic rock like black sabbath, n im from a black family. im just sayin stop hatin on rap cuz we think it sounds coo.
Im not hating rap, Im just saying for destiny guy to stop dissing metal.
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 | | #90 22 Jun 2007 12:57 pm |
xxxsmittyxxx Guest | I love death metal and rap too. All of you douches just stop fronting.
| | #91 22 Jun 2007 01:01 pm |
i hope rappers shoot eachother to death Guest | why the fuck do gangsters say 'peace' if they the ones who’re causing all the shootings?? wtf its just so gayy...STOP THE KILLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | #92 22 Jun 2007 01:30 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0  Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 78 OFFLINE | I hate all those who think they are knowlageable of a subject and diss it.
This applies to people on both sides of the argument, but more so for rap. Destiny Guy, just shut up! I know, its hard to hear some people diss rap, but that doesnt justify you dissing thier music.... GOTTA SPREAD THE FUCKING LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING MOTHERFUCKERS!!! And most people like “i hope rappers shoot eachother to death” don’t even know what its like growing up in the hood.
| | #93 22 Jun 2007 03:11 pm |
xxxsmittyxxx Guest | Spartan11pieh wrote:
I hate all those who think they are knowlageable of a subject and diss it.
This applies to people on both sides of the argument, but more so for rap. Destiny Guy, just shut up! I know, its hard to hear some people diss rap, but that doesnt justify you dissing thier music.... GOTTA SPREAD THE FUCKING LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING MOTHERFUCKERS!!! And most people like “i hope rappers shoot eachother to death” don’t even know what its like growing up in the hood.
Well, just because some rappers had a hard time growing up in the hood, it doesn’t mean they have to tell a story about it. Rap influenced and corrupted today’s youth.
| | #94 22 Jun 2007 04:00 pm |
bonjour Rep: 2  Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,307 OFFLINE | fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
DestinyGuy678 wrote:
MetalScreamer wrote:
Honestly. I used to love rap. and now i love Rock/Metal. Trust me. Metal/Rock is 10,000 times better. I mean think about it. All rappers do is talk behind a polyphonic beat. In Rock/Metal, they have to learn instruments, play instruments, learn to read notes, wright music, SING ((while playing instruments, (Most of the Time)) SCREAM (without blowing their vocal chords), and the lyrics are ALWAYS different. Have you ever researched how hard it is to Scream...You have NO idea. However, I’m sure that I CAN rap fairly easily if I wanted to.
Rap: Retards Attempting Poetry.
All they do is make a beautiful poem about how hard they shot up a liquor store. I could’ve written the same “song” in 2nd Grade.
I’m just saying, the amount of skill and intelligence in Rock/Metal out performs Rap on EVERY aspect. Therefore there is no real debate. And that my friend is why rappers don’t deserve my respect.
..I’ve heard metal...it’s screaming...like your name suggests, honestly I ca like sometimes of rock but stuff like death metal black metal thats just not good at all,
metal screamer there are babies not even 2 hours old who can scream, does that make it death metal no, it makes it better than death metal
Do you know how hard it is to actually do those vocals? How much damage you can do to your throat if you dont do them properly? And if you think death metal aint good, then you try playing Cryptopsy, or death, or deicide, or possessed, or cannibal corpse. Dont diss what you dont understand.
like they are doing with rap? tell them to take your advice as well
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 | | #95 23 Jun 2007 10:05 pm |
lol at the notion that FOB are legends Guest | Girbie wrote:
robbiee120 wrote:
Rap sucks because it is not music at all it is just a bunch of low IQ morons yelling out vile words while pointing thier fingers and grabbing thier balls while a drum machine puts out the same old beat in every so called song, And then they always have the idiot in the background with 2 turntables making a record play backwards with a scratching sound, DAM what morons they really are and you wiggers think that is music???
Do me a favor all you stupid rap lovers, go to any music store that sells sheet music and see if they have that crap on a music sheet with notes on it! Well they don,t that i do know so how dare any of you wiggers to even call that crap rap music, A 4th of july fireworks show sounds better than rap crap,At least rockers play real instruments even though they don,t know what they are doing while playing a bunch of bad discords, It still sounds better than rap crap anyday. And dam i thought disco was bad and it did die and i only pray rap crap dies a hard and evil death.
Yea. Rakim, and Public enemy only held their balls and said vile words. Well, for your information, none of Rakims cds had a parental advisory sticker, and back then for P.E, their was alot of racism around. You probably wouldn’t remember.
Alright. Let’s name the legendary groups of Rock:
Panic at the disco, Fall down boy, Hello Goodbye and Maryland(?) Manson.
Alright. All they do is scream and shout about hating life.
Now let’s list rappers:
Rakim (You probably NEVER even heard of him)
Big Daddy Kane (Same)
Slick Rick (same)
Tupac
Nas
Public Enemy
A Tribe Called Quest (still probably never heard of them)
All stood for something. All will be remembered. Unlike your Rock legends I named above.
dude, in no way are Panic! at the disco and Fall out boy raock legends. I don’t want to get in on this dumb flame war, but they are rock’s equivalent to mainstream crap rap like akon and mims. It is a scientific fact that they suck. If you want real rock musicians, try Dream Theater, Cellador, and other similar bands.
| | #96 24 Jun 2007 11:37 am |
fartmasterflex. Guest | WHAT! Since when were Panic at the Disco and Fallout Boy rock legends? I haven’t even heard of Hello Goodbye. Girbie, you are a dumbass, that’s like me saying Yung Joc and Jibbs are the best rappers ever. Do your research before you post.
| | #97 24 Jun 2007 11:48 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 11  Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,523 OFFLINE | fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
DestinyGuy678 wrote:
MetalScreamer wrote:
Honestly. I used to love rap. and now i love Rock/Metal. Trust me. Metal/Rock is 10,000 times better. I mean think about it. All rappers do is talk behind a polyphonic beat. In Rock/Metal, they have to learn instruments, play instruments, learn to read notes, wright music, SING ((while playing instruments, (Most of the Time)) SCREAM (without blowing their vocal chords), and the lyrics are ALWAYS different. Have you ever researched how hard it is to Scream...You have NO idea. However, I’m sure that I CAN rap fairly easily if I wanted to.
Rap: Retards Attempting Poetry.
All they do is make a beautiful poem about how hard they shot up a liquor store. I could’ve written the same “song” in 2nd Grade.
I’m just saying, the amount of skill and intelligence in Rock/Metal out performs Rap on EVERY aspect. Therefore there is no real debate. And that my friend is why rappers don’t deserve my respect.
..I’ve heard metal...it’s screaming...like your name suggests, honestly I ca like sometimes of rock but stuff like death metal black metal thats just not good at all,
metal screamer there are babies not even 2 hours old who can scream, does that make it death metal no, it makes it better than death metal
Do you know how hard it is to actually do those vocals? How much damage you can do to your throat if you dont do them properly? And if you think death metal aint good, then you try playing Cryptopsy, or death, or deicide, or possessed, or cannibal corpse. Dont diss what you dont understand.
Seconded.
Anyway, a lot of people here who are instantly dismissing rock music seem to be confusing rock with extreme metal. Death and Black metal, funnily enough, are very much aquired tastes.
That said, just because you think it sounds like wank, doesn’t mean it’s bad. The most highly trained musicians in the world (generally regarded as Jazz Fusion players) only respect 3 other genres for their musical and technical prowess: Jazz Fusion, Classical, and Death Metal.
There is no getting away from the fact that extreme metal contains some of the most astonishing talents in the entire music business, and I for one believe you can’t begin to truely appreciate extreme metal unless you’re a musician of some experience. The technicality is mindblowing, even if it isn’t to your taste. Don’t dismiss it because you can’t begin to understand it.
Oh, and Destinyguy, don’t get screaming, a la Hardcore Punk, confused with Death and Black Metal vocals. There’s an infinitely large gap between the two, and they sound nothing alike. Extreme metal vocals, such as the deep growls of Mike Akerfedlt, command respect and require technique. The screaming that comes out of shitty emo hardcore bands, is as you say, talentless bullshit. But extreme metal vocals are not one and the same.
--- Weapon of Mass Percussion
SoB Admin | | #98 28 Jun 2007 02:04 pm |
thorn in da ass Guest | DestinyGuy678 wrote:
and what is rock about, tthe world hating you? Honestly if you are going t osay bad things about rap I can do the same thing.
Rock is about the problems in the world, and addressing them. It is called sticking it to the man.
| | #99 28 Jun 2007 02:07 pm |
thorn in da ass Guest | Vengence X wrote:
Metal Screamer couldn’t have put it better, I used to love rap, but than I sobered up and said, “What the fuck?". I realized how much better metal was.
METAL KICKS YOUR’S AND EVERYONE ELSE’S ASS!!!!!!!!!!
The same happened to me. I liked rap, then my mind opened up and saw how awesome metal/rock was.
METALCORE IS THE BEST GENRE EVER!
(and if anyone says all it is is screaming, you are nearly right. The screaming is supposed to show anger. But in all the songs, there is not just yelling, but harmonous singing points like in my favorite song, 7861 by Beneath the Sky.)
| | #100 28 Jun 2007 02:10 pm |
thorn in da ass Guest | DrumIntoTheNight wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
DestinyGuy678 wrote:
MetalScreamer wrote:
Honestly. I used to love rap. and now i love Rock/Metal. Trust me. Metal/Rock is 10,000 times better. I mean think about it. All rappers do is talk behind a polyphonic beat. In Rock/Metal, they have to learn instruments, play instruments, learn to read notes, wright music, SING ((while playing instruments, (Most of the Time)) SCREAM (without blowing their vocal chords), and the lyrics are ALWAYS different. Have you ever researched how hard it is to Scream...You have NO idea. However, I’m sure that I CAN rap fairly easily if I wanted to.
Rap: Retards Attempting Poetry.
All they do is make a beautiful poem about how hard they shot up a liquor store. I could’ve written the same “song” in 2nd Grade.
I’m just saying, the amount of skill and intelligence in Rock/Metal out performs Rap on EVERY aspect. Therefore there is no real debate. And that my friend is why rappers don’t deserve my respect.
..I’ve heard metal...it’s screaming...like your name suggests, honestly I ca like sometimes of rock but stuff like death metal black metal thats just not good at all,
metal screamer there are babies not even 2 hours old who can scream, does that make it death metal no, it makes it better than death metal
Do you know how hard it is to actually do those vocals? How much damage you can do to your throat if you dont do them properly? And if you think death metal aint good, then you try playing Cryptopsy, or death, or deicide, or possessed, or cannibal corpse. Dont diss what you dont understand.
Seconded.
Anyway, a lot of people here who are instantly dismissing rock music seem to be confusing rock with extreme metal. Death and Black metal, funnily enough, are very much aquired tastes.
That said, just because you think it sounds like wank, doesn’t mean it’s bad. The most highly trained musicians in the world (generally regarded as Jazz Fusion players) only respect 3 other genres for their musical and technical prowess: Jazz Fusion, Classical, and Death Metal.
There is no getting away from the fact that extreme metal contains some of the most astonishing talents in the entire music business, and I for one believe you can’t begin to truely appreciate extreme metal unless you’re a musician of some experience. The technicality is mindblowing, even if it isn’t to your taste. Don’t dismiss it because you can’t begin to understand it.
Oh, and Destinyguy, don’t get screaming, a la Hardcore Punk, confused with Death and Black Metal vocals. There’s an infinitely large gap between the two, and they sound nothing alike. Extreme metal vocals, such as the deep growls of Mike Akerfedlt, command respect and require technique. The screaming that comes out of shitty emo hardcore bands, is as you say, talentless bullshit. But extreme metal vocals are not one and the same.
You are right. Metal is an aquired taste of music. That is where the term heavy came up,
Before I started metal, I listen to rap, and when I heard metal, who my friend introduced me to, I wanted to puke from listening to the heaviness of the music and how intense it was. That is where the term heavy came from, just like eating heavy food, it makes you sick. You need to get used to the metal sound before you can enjoy it. I gave it many, many chances, and now I have gone from rap to the heaviest of the metal genres.
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