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02 Aug 2006 10:32 am
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Posts: 180 Deathspartan117 wrote: Yea, but he is going to fail miserably and burn in hell forever. Hes a total dumbass for even trying... hes a total dumbass period...


God accepted a dumbass’s challenge???...
wait let me rephrase that

God the most intellectual being in existence, master of the universe and beyond, tha Alpha and Omega, the Supreme Being accepted, a TOTAL dumbass’s challenge???

— guddammit! can any xtian answer that?! —

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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote: if satan was going to lose why would he do it anyway. Its not always good over evil you know but sometimes a tie even.


No I believe its always good against evil . Its a lifelong .. ongoing battle but in the end , good will conquer over all .


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04 Aug 2006 12:23 am
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kev360 wrote: becouse he was pridefull and thought he was better then God.

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04 Aug 2006 07:31 am
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butt_hair_reborn-xclaim wrote: but why?
was satan so dumb that he failed teh realise teht u cant challenge God an win?
why teh heck would God accept a dumb persons challenge?
what was ee so proud of?
how the fuck did he think hes better tahn God?
an who the FUCK rebels cuz they so proud???


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Satan was like a top angel when he was in Heaven, he was like a bright star... But this wasn’t enough for him, he saw God, and wanted to be in that position, above all else. He rebelled, and so did a part of the angels, they were cast out of Heaven, for evil and good cannot reside together without conflict, like a cat cannot be with a dog in a box. I don’t think Heaven was bad, I think Satan might be almost wishing he could go back to that Paradise, but point is, Satan had a conflict with God, and this separated Them. I don’t think “God accepted the challenge”, God is All Powerful, He just cast Satan and His followers out of Heaven in a snap, nothing is impossible for Him. But of course, we cannot know for sure how everything went and who was thinking what, we know what we read in the Bible, but beyond that, it is just our human imaginations and thoughts, we cannot fully understand everything... So we as finite humans can’t answer all the questions or know everything, God knows everything.

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05 Aug 2006 03:39 am
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Someone who cares.... wrote: Satan was like a top angel when he was in Heaven, he was like a bright star... But this wasn’t enough for him, he saw God, and wanted to be in that position, above all else. He rebelled, and so did a part of the angels, they were cast out of Heaven, for evil and good cannot reside together without conflict, like a cat cannot be with a dog in a box. I don’t think Heaven was bad, I think Satan might be almost wishing he could go back to that Paradise, but point is, Satan had a conflict with God, and this separated Them. I don’t think “God accepted the challenge”, God is All Powerful, He just cast Satan and His followers out of Heaven in a snap, nothing is impossible for Him. But of course, we cannot know for sure how everything went and who was thinking what, we know what we read in the Bible, but beyond that, it is just our human imaginations and thoughts, we cannot fully understand everything... So we as finite humans can’t answer all the questions or know everything, God knows everything.


top angel? wow. top angel mustve been really stupid. cuz he failed teh realize ya cant beat God.
er maYbe he wasnt stupid. maybe he realized that u can....

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Someone who cares.... wrote: Satan was like a top angel when he was in Heaven, he was like a bright star... But this wasn’t enough for him, he saw God, and wanted to be in that position, above all else. He rebelled, and so did a part of the angels, they were cast out of Heaven, for evil and good cannot reside together without conflict, like a cat cannot be with a dog in a box. I don’t think Heaven was bad, I think Satan might be almost wishing he could go back to that Paradise, but point is, Satan had a conflict with God, and this separated Them. I don’t think “God accepted the challenge”, God is All Powerful, He just cast Satan and His followers out of Heaven in a snap, nothing is impossible for Him. But of course, we cannot know for sure how everything went and who was thinking what, we know what we read in the Bible, but beyond that, it is just our human imaginations and thoughts, we cannot fully understand everything... So we as finite humans can’t answer all the questions or know everything, God knows everything.


if you get all your knowladge out of the bible your sure to lead and unsuccesful and unfufilling life

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Deathspartan117 wrote: Satan didnt think he was better than God, he just saw Gods authority and broke away to become his own God. He wanted to be God so he left and braught followers with him and we know those followers today as demons.

He didnt want a boss he wanted to be his own boss. You know what im saying? But God will throw him in hell after Judgement day... the only reason God hasnt thrown him in hell yet is because he wants us here on earth to make a choice... to follow him and go to heaven or to not follow him and therefore be taken by the devil.

Remember the absence of God is evil, just as the absence from heat is cold. God cannot let evil into heaven so thats why you have to be a follower of him to get into heaven. Now im not saying that just because you dont follow him that your evil. It just means that you havent made your choice yet. To follow him and go to heaven or follow yourself and go to hell.

Make any sense? If not than tell me whats confusing.


thats not what happened in the bible it said he tried to challenge God, with his own army of angels, the angels that were for God defended which resulted in THe archangel being banished

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07 Aug 2006 07:19 pm
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but dint he realzed that he cant beat God??!!!
or maybe i just dont raelze that no one answeres teht question.....

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"top angel? wow. top angel mustve been really stupid. cuz he failed teh realize ya cant beat God.
er maYbe he wasnt stupid. maybe he realized that u can...."



Yes, no one can be above God, but Satan wanted it so badly that he gave it a try. He probably knew he would fail, but his craving for the Top Seat was so great, that he tried anyway. Least that’s what I think. Maybe he thought he could do it, but didn’t realize what he was dealing with. Like I said, that’s just how I think, I wasn’t there reading the mind of Satan when he was about to do it, so we can’t know for sure.



“if you get all your knowladge out of the bible your sure to lead and unsuccesful and unfufilling life”



On Biblical and Spiritual subjects, we MUST get our facts and supporting details from the Bible, that is the best way, the most reliable Source. Since we do not have a human who lived back then and could read minds and tell us about it today... And actually, living your life by reading the Bible and praying and doing what Jesus would do will lead to a VERY successful after life, in Eternity.

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Revelation 22:16: “I, Jesus,have sent my angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star."

The morning star was known as Lucifer, we know it as the planet Venus.

Lucifer was a high angel of God who sinned in pride and arrogance in his Belief that he knew better, and could think clearer than God.
God cast Lucifer from heaven, to learn the sin of his pride, and to learn humility.
Jesus was the Son of God sent to earth to learn the humility of man, and to show the way BACK to heaven

Jesus proclaimed HIMself to be the morningstar, Lucifer, and then spent his life showing the way home, and earning Gods forgiveness

Modern “Satan” is a Christian scare tactic to keep blind fear and faith

James R

*waits for SWC’s dogmatic rebuttal*

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James R Clair wrote: The morning star was known as Lucifer, we know it as the planet Venus.


um .. where is all that written ?? To be cast out then proclaimed 'morning star' are two different things ..

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Someone who cares.... wrote: “top angel? wow. top angel mustve been really stupid. cuz he failed teh realize ya cant beat God.
er maYbe he wasnt stupid. maybe he realized that u can...."



Yes, no one can be above God, but Satan wanted it so badly that he gave it a try. He probably knew he would fail, but his craving for the Top Seat was so great, that he tried anyway. Least that’s what I think. Maybe he thought he could do it, but didn’t realize what he was dealing with. Like I said, that’s just how I think, I wasn’t there reading the mind of Satan when he was about to do it, so we can’t know for sure.



“if you get all your knowladge out of the bible your sure to lead and unsuccesful and unfufilling life”



On Biblical and Spiritual subjects, we MUST get our facts and supporting details from the Bible, that is the best way, the most reliable Source. Since we do not have a human who lived back then and could read minds and tell us about it today... And actually, living your life by reading the Bible and praying and doing what Jesus would do will lead to a VERY successful after life, in Eternity.


Wow if i got my facts fromt he bible I would be worst then a fucking african warlord and kill billions of people who arent christian. Religion is an accident that the world is regretting because all it leads to is more followers more wars and no peace. I dont know any major religion witch hasent started a war but no war would happen if these religions never existed.

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"Revelation 22:16: “I, Jesus,have sent my angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star."

The morning star was known as Lucifer, we know it as the planet Venus.

Lucifer was a high angel of God who sinned in pride and arrogance in his Belief that he knew better, and could think clearer than God.
God cast Lucifer from heaven, to learn the sin of his pride, and to learn humility.
Jesus was the Son of God sent to earth to learn the humility of man, and to show the way BACK to heaven

Jesus proclaimed HIMself to be the morningstar, Lucifer, and then spent his life showing the way home, and earning Gods forgiveness

Modern “Satan” is a Christian scare tactic to keep blind fear and faith

James R

*waits for SWC’s dogmatic rebuttal*"



Thanks for waiting. smiley


Are you saying that Satan doesn’t exist? Could you please check out this site: http://www.answers2prayer.org/bible_questions/Answers/satan/existence.html




“um .. where is all that written ?? To be cast out then proclaimed 'morning star' are two different things .."


Isa 14:12-15 “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit." NIV


See, Lucifer was the morning star when he was in Heaven, he was beatiful, he was like a top angel, but then he was then cast out of Heaven for thinking he could make a throne above God’s throne.

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why does it matter if satan was morning noon or night star

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"why does it matter if satan was morning noon or night star”



We were just discussing why Satan rebelled, and that’s a part of it, he was the morning star, he got proud and wanted to make a throne above God’s.

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by fighting god?

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Someone who cares.... wrote: “Revelation 22:16: “I, Jesus,have sent my angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star."

The morning star was known as Lucifer, we know it as the planet Venus.

Lucifer was a high angel of God who sinned in pride and arrogance in his Belief that he knew better, and could think clearer than God.
God cast Lucifer from heaven, to learn the sin of his pride, and to learn humility.
Jesus was the Son of God sent to earth to learn the humility of man, and to show the way BACK to heaven

Jesus proclaimed HIMself to be the morningstar, Lucifer, and then spent his life showing the way home, and earning Gods forgiveness

Modern “Satan” is a Christian scare tactic to keep blind fear and faith

James R

*waits for SWC’s dogmatic rebuttal*"



Thanks for waiting. smiley


Are you saying that Satan doesn’t exist? Could you please check out this site: http://www.answers2prayer.org/bible_questions/Answers/satan/existence.html




“um .. where is all that written ?? To be cast out then proclaimed 'morning star' are two different things .."


Isa 14:12-15 “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit." NIV


See, Lucifer was the morning star when he was in Heaven, he was beatiful, he was like a top angel, but then he was then cast out of Heaven for thinking he could make a throne above God’s throne.

Once again, your proving what a tyrant god was.

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really theres no point in trying to change what you think no matter what we say your going to twist and bend it into a way into which God is the tyrant.

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