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09 Aug 2006 11:18 pm
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Black Hydra Xc wrote:
Once again, your proving what a tyrant god was.


more a scolding father
Christianity focuses on the ultimate scare tactics within religion to engrain the dogma indellibly.

If the Biblical Metaphors are thought out in *NON baptist (*see “blind stupidity”wink it is far more like parenting.

An angel of God dared to question Gods Judgement, to the point of defiance. God didn’t destroy or torture or his most prized angel. He forced him to descend, to become flesh and learn what humility was, to learn that which only becoming human would teach.

Lucifer the fallen, the morning star
Jesus the saviour, the evening star (morning ascends to night)
One in the same, seperated to show the far extremes of the same spectrum.
There is no Satan, it’s a scare tactic like Original Sin. and a way to blame someone who isn’t yourself, for every horrible thing you do


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butt_hair_reborn-xclaim wrote: ja! why?

if he didnt rebel you couldnt have named this topic

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God doesn’t allow rewards for freedom of thought. He offers punishment. If you do not think how Christianity wants you to, then you go to hell. What a load of bullshit. If god exists to the extent explained by SWC, then he would NOT be that idiotic.

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christianity offers punishment
remember that christianity is the most recent rewrite of what was the Hebrew scripts, which was rewritten from older ones, and older etc.
Rewriting religion doesn’t make it MORE valid, it rips it to pieces. Their blind faith in the bastardization is what is evil, bad, destructive

But I still hold that there is a root, a trueness to the original thoughts and beliefs. Anything after that is edited and altered by religious leaders controlling the people through the Word

ignorance is far more evil than God.. God is the eternal balance. The darkest destructive force of nature, of evil, of darkness. The all encompassing lightness of love, and good, and light. Yin Yang, the eternal balance

we can’t even correctly label people, how can we dare to label The Almighty?

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i dont like all this religieos stuff. i know theres a god somewhere that created what created earth

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"by fighting god?"


No, by rebelling; by thinking he could make a throne above God’s throne.



“Once again, your proving what a tyrant god was."



Black Hydra, look at it this way. Can you have a cat and a dog in one box? So, can you have good and evil in one place? That’s why you can’t have Lucifer in the same Heaven as God, and their angels, there would be constant fighting and comotion and cauos. That’s why the rebels had to be kicked out, and that’s exactly what happened. Because, I think, heaven is a place of unity and peace, it must be kept this way.



“Lucifer the fallen, the morning star
Jesus the saviour, the evening star (morning ascends to night)
One in the same, seperated to show the far extremes of the same spectrum."



Did you just say Jesus and Lucifer are the same? Please let this be NO.



“God doesn’t allow rewards for freedom of thought. He offers punishment. If you do not think how Christianity wants you to, then you go to hell. What a load of bullshit. If god exists to the extent explained by SWC, then he would NOT be that idiotic."



Is not Heaven, eternal paradise, and a crown, and being in the presence of God, your Creator, a good enough reward for freedom of thought?




“we can’t even correctly label people, how can we dare to label The Almighty?"



AMEN!

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if gods like that i wouldnt want to be with him

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"if gods like that i wouldnt want to be with him”



Like what exactly?

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like you said he is

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Which would be?

I don’t get what exactly makes you feel that way, can you name specifically?

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“Dying men have said, “I am sorry I have been an atheist, an infidel, an agnostic, a skeptic, or a sinner”; but no man ever said with his last breath, “I am sorry I have lived a Christian life." “The wages of sin is death- quit before payday.“
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omg are you that stupid you dont remeber what you wrote about god holy shit no wonder god hates christians

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lol SWC, let me explain something. I cannot live how I want to without god sending me to hell. I don’t like that. I don’t like that there is a certain heaven I have to go to if I do manage to get there. I would like my own heaven, not someone elses version. Besides that, I want to govern myself and make my own laws. Because that is a thought Christianity will doom me to hell for, I’m fucked. I will not repent because I do not feel I have done anything wrong so I guess that if your right, I’ll end up next to Lucifer.

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"omg are you that stupid you dont remeber what you wrote about god holy shit no wonder god hates christians”


And are you having trouble showing me in detail what makes you feel like you do? Please show me. I don’t get what makes you feel like you do, and I asked you to show me in detail. I know what I write, I just don’t get what part of it would possibly make you feel the way you do. I don’t see it.



“lol SWC, let me explain something. I cannot live how I want to without god sending me to hell. I don’t like that. I don’t like that there is a certain heaven I have to go to if I do manage to get there. I would like my own heaven, not someone elses version. Besides that, I want to govern myself and make my own laws. Because that is a thought Christianity will doom me to hell for, I’m fucked. I will not repent because I do not feel I have done anything wrong so I guess that if your right, I’ll end up next to Lucifer."



I didn’t ask you, I already know what YOU would say, I’ve heard the same old same old before... Sigh... Maybe it’s just not your time yet. But I hope you will come to the realization of your sins one day. Because everyone has sinned. And the punishment for sin is death.

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11 Aug 2006 11:17 pm
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I noticed Lucifer mentioned several times in this forum. Just an interesting point - in more recent religious studies some individuals claim that “Satan” and “Lucifer” are not the same beings and that it has commonly been misinterpreted that they are. I can provide a link to an article on this if anyone would be interested.

James: I think you have a good point mentioning yin/yang. I’m still not quite sure personally what I believe here, but a lot of cultures have held similar beliefs/ philosophies - for example you have to have evil in order to have good.

SWC - Sorry but telling people that you “hope you will come to the realization of your sins” just ISN’T polite. I know you want people to come to Christianity, but do you realize that your methods are producing the exact opposite effect to what you desire?

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I forgive you Etain. Even if you hate me. Peace my friend.

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Man does not hold the seed of truth on all matters regarding the afterlife, do what you think is good, and what you think is right..... you will be judged by that.... not necessarly by some archiac judeo-christian laws misinterepreted in regards to specifics... as long as you don’t try to hurt others you should be fine in the afterlife....

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Someone who cares.... wrote: I forgive you Etain. Even if you hate me. Peace my friend.



your only supposed to forgive people if they want to be forgivin dumbass or else people will walk all over you

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12 Aug 2006 01:21 am
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Someone who cares.... wrote: I forgive you Etain. Even if you hate me. Peace my friend.


Forgive me? For what? lol

And sorry it isn’t in my belief system to hate...

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SWC likes to “forgive” people for “hating him” when they don’t agree with him
taught by pious russian baptists as a way of brushing aside any argument with his beliefs.

If you say anything not in agreement with SWC, he forgives you in the name of God, as clearly your disagreement is a stumbling block of your blindness to his righteousness

I’ve truly never come across, online or in person, anyone quite as ignorant on every level, as SWC

JRL

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James R. LeClair wrote: SWC likes to “forgive” people for “hating him” when they don’t agree with him
taught by pious russian baptists as a way of brushing aside any argument with his beliefs.

If you say anything not in agreement with SWC, he forgives you in the name of God, as clearly your disagreement is a stumbling block of your blindness to his righteousness

I’ve truly never come across, online or in person, anyone quite as ignorant on every level, as SWC

JRL



Hmmm I don’t believe there is any such thing as the “sin of disagreement” in the Bible he he.

If there were whenever you stuck 2 denominations together it would be running rampant....

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