#1,021 20 May 2008 11:18 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46  Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1,895 OFFLINE | Agung wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Kakashi could avoid lighting...
Kakuzu vs Kakashi
and Sasuke more faster than Kakashi... are you considering Kakashi lighting speed...???
and oh...Sasuke must use heat to use kirin but to control lighting he just need his chidori...
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/391/05/
Zetsu says that Kirin’s lightning is on a completely different scale than chakra based lightning. This means that Nature’s lightning>Chakra based lightning, which Kakuzu used.
Kakashi is not lightning speed. It was “said” that he cut lightning with it, but the chapter that I provided shows that the chidori can act as a lightning rod that brings lightning down to it. So Kakashi is not lightning speed.
Itachi was all out of chakara and there was nowhere to go thats why he said there is no dodgeing that(plus look at the size at that thing) he didn’t said no one can’t dodge plus Itachi didn’t need to dodge it anyway and I think that thing was huger than Kakuzu and any lightning bolt which you can’t prove is slower plus Itachi reacted to the attack by summoning his last jutsu right after it striked.
EDIT: They control the element with chakra not make it Kakashi couldn’t merge the ransangan(pure chakara) with the chidori so it not made out of chakara. Last edited 20 May 2008 11:31 pm by Superman Prime | |
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#1,022 21 May 2008 12:08 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | One thing for sure is logias user could be hurt by luffy which mean naruto character could hurt them too... ---

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#1,023 21 May 2008 01:11 am |
lionfranky Guest | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
One thing for sure is logias user could be hurt by luffy which mean naruto character could hurt them too...
You are obviously in denial or ignorance.
How many times should we tell you?
Luffy was using water to hit Crocidile.
Rubber negates lightening so he could hit Enel.
Naruto characters have no idea about weakness. Tell them lugia weakness? then tell all One Piece characters skills of all Naruto characters. This is entire One Piece cast vs entire Naruto cast. which means One Piece in curbstomp. You SMP and Itachi stop avoiding like coward, but accept defeat! | |
#1,024 21 May 2008 01:16 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE |
just because luffy rubber doesnt mean he could wipe out naruto cast... just like the way you put luffy with water againts crocs... almost every shinobi have water jutsu...
and lightning againts lightning... (sasuke)
can rubber survive from amaterasu...???
and oh smoke could be hurt too... I saw him being hit by luffy from his back... ---

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#1,025 21 May 2008 01:33 am |
malibungon Guest | naruto can live forever by the help of kyubi the 9 tail fox while luffi have only a goma goma.. and he can couth by the power of the sea... if i were a ninja,, i will use the water element that can kill all the pirates specially who ate a evil fruits........
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#1,026 21 May 2008 02:08 am |
lionfranky Guest | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
just because luffy rubber doesnt mean he could wipe out naruto cast... just like the way you put luffy with water againts crocs... almost every shinobi have water jutsu...
and lightning againts lightning... (sasuke)
can rubber survive from amaterasu...???
and oh smoke could be hurt too... I saw him being hit by luffy from his back...
You are taking something out of context. That’s yout problem. Tell this to all other people. They will say you have serious misunderstanding problem. Enel’s lightening>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any lightening from Naruto. Fact. Enel finishes Sasuke in one minute in a GOOD MOOD. I just countered how Luffy was able to hit Enel, not that Luffy would wipe just because he is rubber!
Well Luffy survived from island destroying attack and an explosion that rocked ocean.
“naruto can live forever by the help of kyubi the 9 tail fox while luffi have only a goma goma.. and he can couth by the power of the sea... if i were a ninja,, i will use the water element that can kill all the pirates specially who ate a evil fruits........ "
Devil Fruit users are minority, not majority. Even then, some of users can fly like CP9 members(Geppo), Crocidile, Enel. CP9 guys would finish those water jutsu ninjas before they finish their jutsu. It is just tiresome to repeat things. Just because they are weak against water doesn’t mean they will lose to those who summon water. BTW, Aokiji can freeze those water ninjas to death, so no problem at all. | |
#1,027 21 May 2008 08:13 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | lionfranky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
just because luffy rubber doesnt mean he could wipe out naruto cast... just like the way you put luffy with water againts crocs... almost every shinobi have water jutsu...
and lightning againts lightning... (sasuke)
can rubber survive from amaterasu...???
and oh smoke could be hurt too... I saw him being hit by luffy from his back...
You are taking something out of context. That’s yout problem. Tell this to all other people. They will say you have serious misunderstanding problem. Enel’s lightening>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any lightening from Naruto. Fact. Enel finishes Sasuke in one minute in a GOOD MOOD. I just countered how Luffy was able to hit Enel, not that Luffy would wipe just because he is rubber!
Well Luffy survived from island destroying attack and an explosion that rocked ocean.
“naruto can live forever by the help of kyubi the 9 tail fox while luffi have only a goma goma.. and he can couth by the power of the sea... if i were a ninja,, i will use the water element that can kill all the pirates specially who ate a evil fruits........ "
Devil Fruit users are minority, not majority. Even then, some of users can fly like CP9 members(Geppo), Crocidile, Enel. CP9 guys would finish those water jutsu ninjas before they finish their jutsu. It is just tiresome to repeat things. Just because they are weak against water doesn’t mean they will lose to those who summon water. BTW, Aokiji can freeze those water ninjas to death, so no problem at all.
Then again you put power as everything...
Shiki Fuujin and Amaterasu...??? those techs aint that power full but they could suck out someones life...
Enel cant survive from Shiki Fuujin... ---

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#1,028 21 May 2008 09:36 pm |
Regular Rep: 7 Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 413 OFFLINE | Superman Prime wrote:
Agung wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Kakashi could avoid lighting...
Kakuzu vs Kakashi
and Sasuke more faster than Kakashi... are you considering Kakashi lighting speed...???
and oh...Sasuke must use heat to use kirin but to control lighting he just need his chidori...
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/391/05/
Zetsu says that Kirin’s lightning is on a completely different scale than chakra based lightning. This means that Nature’s lightning>Chakra based lightning, which Kakuzu used.
Kakashi is not lightning speed. It was “said” that he cut lightning with it, but the chapter that I provided shows that the chidori can act as a lightning rod that brings lightning down to it. So Kakashi is not lightning speed.
Itachi was all out of chakara and there was nowhere to go thats why he said there is no dodgeing that(plus look at the size at that thing) he didn’t said no one can’t dodge plus Itachi didn’t need to dodge it anyway and I think that thing was huger than Kakuzu and any lightning bolt which you can’t prove is slower plus Itachi reacted to the attack by summoning his last jutsu right after it striked.
EDIT: They control the element with chakra not make it Kakashi couldn’t merge the ransangan(pure chakara) with the chidori so it not made out of chakara.
Man, what Naruto are you reading?
Sasuke said it was unavoidable too.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/17/
Dude, I can’t believe you are desperate enough to say that Chidori is not made out of chakra. It uses chakra to make, therefore it’s made out of chakra.
Kakashi’s chidori is made out of chakra. The reason why he couldn’t merge lightning chakra with Rasengan is because it is the highest level of shape manipulation.
But hey, Naruto’s wind chakra was able to fuse with the Rasengan so I just disproved your point also.
Also, Shiki Fujin can’t hit Enel because he can’t hit him in the first place. It’ll just phase through him. Nice try. | |
#1,029 21 May 2008 10:16 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,509 OFFLINE | Enel wouldn’t be caught in it to begin with.He’s to fast plus his mantra. ---
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#1,030 21 May 2008 11:57 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Enel wouldn’t be caught in it to begin with.He’s to fast plus his mantra.
They just need no think at all... Madara just need to use tags to enel and then yondaime just need to seal him... shit... Kokuanyou no jutsu will make enel cant move anywhere... ---

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#1,031 22 May 2008 12:00 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,509 OFFLINE | Yes because its just enel fighting...There are many and I mean many other guys out there that are stronger than Enel and would kill Madara and the Fourth.Wait were counting Dead characters?Gol D. Roger stomps majority then. ---
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#1,032 22 May 2008 12:44 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Yes because its just enel fighting...There are many and I mean many other guys out there that are stronger than Enel and would kill Madara and the Fourth.Wait were counting Dead characters?Gol D. Roger stomps majority then.
I know... I never considering Naruto cast would beat them all but I consider Naruto cast at least beat a few of them... ---

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#1,033 22 May 2008 01:07 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,509 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
I know... I never considering Naruto cast would beat them all but I consider Naruto cast at least beat a few of them...
I can agree on this.There are a few OP characters they can beat. ---
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#1,034 22 May 2008 07:39 am |
SMP LO Guest | Agung wrote:
Superman Prime wrote:
Agung wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Kakashi could avoid lighting...
Kakuzu vs Kakashi
and Sasuke more faster than Kakashi... are you considering Kakashi lighting speed...???
and oh...Sasuke must use heat to use kirin but to control lighting he just need his chidori...
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/391/05/
Zetsu says that Kirin’s lightning is on a completely different scale than chakra based lightning. This means that Nature’s lightning>Chakra based lightning, which Kakuzu used.
Kakashi is not lightning speed. It was “said” that he cut lightning with it, but the chapter that I provided shows that the chidori can act as a lightning rod that brings lightning down to it. So Kakashi is not lightning speed.
Itachi was all out of chakara and there was nowhere to go thats why he said there is no dodgeing that(plus look at the size at that thing) he didn’t said no one can’t dodge plus Itachi didn’t need to dodge it anyway and I think that thing was huger than Kakuzu and any lightning bolt which you can’t prove is slower plus Itachi reacted to the attack by summoning his last jutsu right after it striked.
EDIT: They control the element with chakra not make it Kakashi couldn’t merge the ransangan(pure chakara) with the chidori so it not made out of chakara.
Man, what Naruto are you reading?
Sasuke said it was unavoidable too.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/17/
Dude, I can’t believe you are desperate enough to say that Chidori is not made out of chakra. It uses chakra to make, therefore it’s made out of chakra.
Kakashi’s chidori is made out of chakra. The reason why he couldn’t merge lightning chakra with Rasengan is because it is the highest level of shape manipulation.
But hey, Naruto’s wind chakra was able to fuse with the Rasengan so I just disproved your point also.
Also, Shiki Fujin can’t hit Enel because he can’t hit him in the first place. It’ll just phase through him. Nice try.
Due its size and were Itachi was at made it unavoidable plus Sasuke was leading it like the black flames.And chakra manipulates the element not make remember Naruto’s training.
Yeah and the wind element can fuse with chakara but the lightning element can’t. | |
#1,035 22 May 2008 06:11 pm |
Regular Rep: 7 Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 413 OFFLINE | Theoretically, any element can fuse with the Rasengan if the person has mastered their element and spent at least 20+ years fusing the techniques.
Also, its unavoidable. Prove to me it wasn’t. Zetsu said it moves hundreds of times faster than the speed of sound, and said it was unavoidable. Sasuke said it too.
The fact that its gigantic MAKES it unavoidable. >_> | |
#1,036 22 May 2008 07:56 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
I know... I never considering Naruto cast would beat them all but I consider Naruto cast at least beat a few of them...
I can agree on this.There are a few OP characters they can beat.
but I never agree Nami could defeat Sasori... but Nico Robin can but Nami...??? ---

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#1,037 23 May 2008 12:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46  Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1,895 OFFLINE | Agung wrote:
Theoretically, any element can fuse with the Rasengan if the person has mastered their element and spent at least 20+ years fusing the techniques.
Also, its unavoidable. Prove to me it wasn’t. Zetsu said it moves hundreds of times faster than the speed of sound, and said it was unavoidable. Sasuke said it too.
The fact that its gigantic MAKES it unavoidable. >_>
Zetsu also notice that Itachi wasn’t in his prime he had terrible dodgeing thing like that fire ball and crap in the fight. Plus what made the black flames so unavoidable. | |
#1,038 23 May 2008 06:42 pm |
Regular Rep: 7 Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 413 OFFLINE | I can’t believe this.
Sasuke said it was similar to Amaterasu, and it was unavoidable.
If Itachi would have been able to avoid that fire jutsu that Sasuke created, then why do you say he could suddenly jump to dodging lightning? That makes absolutely no sense at all. Once again, Zetsu stated it was hundreds of times faster than the speed of sound. Itachi has not shown that type of speed, or anything that suggests dodging lightning EVER. | |
#1,039 24 May 2008 12:38 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | He survive coz of Amaterasu... but they are quite faster afterall... ---

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#1,040 24 May 2008 01:34 am |
Regular Rep: 7 Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 413 OFFLINE | Not fast enough to dodge natural lightning though. | |
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