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You’re really stupid you know that? Go check out the recent pages in Goku vs. Supes.

Cid wrote: I’m not going to go through that thread, I know what I’m talking about, Super Saiyan 13 doesn’t exist. Just like Super Saiyan 5 or any other SS level other than the ones in the Manga/TV shows.
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Put a 1 before the three and yep you got it.

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It’s 13.

HALOOOOOOOO wrote: On the Dragon Ball series, the highest Super Saiyan is level 5, right? Or is it 4?
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Umm, yeah it is.

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Manchester Black wrote:
OverLord wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
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Manchester Black wrote:
Not to sure, its been years since I saw DBZ but for some reason I remeber him doing it normal.

He used the Kaioken and a Kamehameha to destroy the star
I’ll take your word, since your not one to lie about things.
Good; take his word.
Which I would take over yours any day of the week.
Good as I would do the same.

Manchester Black wrote:
You so sure? He couldn’t teleport to the Kais planet and he was familiar with their ki.

When was this? I can’t remember
When Buu was destroying the planet Goku put his fingers on his head to IT away but couldn’t. Kibitokai shows up and teleports him,Vegeta,Dende,Hercule, and Bee off of earth.
When the hell did that happen? Post a scan.
Funny I’ve asked you for that since the beginning, anyway it was the episode when Kid Buu first came.
That never happened. Goku teled himself and Vegata I think; the rest yeah Kibito(actually not really) *him and kaio fused remember* had to do.

Manchester Black wrote:
You have to take into account Buu was a raging psychopath and was dangerous to everyone, of course Goku would do it then otherwise he likes a fair fight, hell he gave Cell a senzu been.

He did the same with Krillin while fighting Vegeta,
Goku was down and out, he was more concered with protecting earth.
Because he puts everyone before him.
True.
Yeah, it is.

all Vegeta wanted was to become immortal with the Dragonballs.
After murdering hundreds of people.
Which was way earlier in the series.
Whats your point.
What’s yours?

Manchester Black wrote:
The Death Ball was thrown directly at Nameks core, attacking the core of the planet destroys it. Now theres not a thought in my mind Goku can destroy a planet at the end of DBZ, but a solar system is pushing it.

I don’t think a Solar System is pushing it, Goku was immensly powerful at the end of Z.
Yes he was immensly powerful but theres no proof he can destroy a solar system. Infact Kid Buu fired his most powerful blast and all he did was destroy one planet.
He was only aiming for Earth; btw Warp Kamehameha is his most powerful blast.
But if he can destroy a solar system like people claim and he used his full power he should have destroyed it.
Who said he used full power; and btw what don’t you get about specifically only aiming for Earth?

And sense you guys seem to think that GT is cannon,
I know for a fact that GT is noncanon.
That aritcle yusif posted was credible.
Funny ther article said it was non-canon.
No, it said it WAS canon but a loser like you might have edited it.

I’ll use it too, Goku at SSj4 has nearly limitless powers.
SSJ4 was pathetic. He could barely lift a city and his feats weren’t near as impressive as his previous forms.
You’re really stupid. Then you go into feats again when he only has one writer. And he was much stronger than SSJ3-.
Actually you are, SSJ4 could barely lift a city.
You are actually and where did you get the barely; he did it effortlessely.

Manchester Black wrote:
If Cell had enough time to say “Oh Shit” when Goku teleported infront of him and hit him with a kamehama Supes has enough time to dodge.

Goku fired the Kamehameha after he teleported against Cell.
Goku charged up his kamehama and teleported in front of Cell, Cell says Oh shit and Goku fires.
You’re an idiot. He fires instantly after teleing and Cell’s like oh shit when he gets what Goku’s doing but then it’s to late.
Goku teleported infront of him, Cell said oh shit and Goku fired. How is that instant again?
Goku charged up his kamehama and teleported in front of Cell, Cell says Oh shit and Goku fires.
REREAD THIS. You’re an idiot. He fires instantly after teleing and Cell’s like oh shit when he gets what Goku’s doing but then it’s to late.
BTW how’s that NOT instantaneuos?

Manchester Black wrote:
So Superman is japanese now?

The Japanese probably created a Superman yes,
Maybe so.
True.

but that wasn’t my point. The Japanese believe that all living things have Ki, and it’s on the verge of being proven true. So Superman will have Ki.
The question is will it be high or low.
High but lower than Goku’s...
Of course thats what you would say.
Of course as that also true.

Manchester Black wrote:
Dude it’s a comic book, there isn’t any long drawn out explanations like that.
Actually no its been shown in his comics. Infact I believe Superboy used his to protect a city once.
Wow... OMG a city...
Wow you didn’t understand what was being said did you. Cid said that it was something fans made up, so I told him how it was shown in the comics with Superboy.
Yeah, and it was stupid in the first place.

It’s just people trying to make sense out of something that seems impossible.
Originally it was just him being that tough, they later rewrote it to be an aura.
What the hell are you talking about?
Superman was at first just durable enough to take these kinds of blows, then when Post-Crisis was made it was changed to be a aura.
Not in the books I’ve read...

Take Final Fantasy VII for example, at the end of the game you fight a boss who uses an attack called Supernova, the animation for the attack shows the Solar System being destroyed by this giant ball of fire. The funny thing is, the attack can be used several times in the fight and it shows the Solar System being destroyed every time. Fans like to say that the animation was an illusion, but there is no proof to prove it true.

Yes however the difference is the creators said this not the fans.

The fans never said it; like I said I got an e-mail from Toriyama which explains everything up to SSJ13.

Except SSJ13 doesn’t exist and why would you get an email from Toriyama?

Except SSJ13 DOES exist and I e-mailed Toriyama in the first place.
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Manchester Black wrote:
OverLord wrote:
No problem
Lol?
I fail to see the humor in this.
The reason? Simply that’s you’re a dolt.

Part one - http://youtube.com/watch?v=60ClMfxH7l8
Part Two - http://youtube.com/watch?v=bwBsYyHOBWM&mode=related&search=

Unfortunately I have a slow computer, I’ll have to check the links tomorow seeing as I’m about to go to bed.
Lmao.
Whatever.
Yeah...

I’m not too sure which part it is in though, sorry.

No worrys.
Kool.

About the Instant transmission, it’s coming back to me now, did he say that he could only use the Instant Transmission if he had seen the place he was going to? So then again, if Superman moved around too much Goku might not be able to follow him.

Not to sure, I don’t think so though.
Yeah, but Goku is too experienced and powerful to be tricked like that.
Really he seems to be tricked alot to me.
Oh really? Why was it only ONE instance then? That being against Raditz. And what Frieza and the rest did weren’t tricks; that was stupidity for all the got from that was getting themselves pwned into oblivion.

And I thought you was saying GT was cannon? Or was that somebody else... I can’t remember, Gt isn’t cannon so I won’t use it either way.
Nah that was Yusif and Cloud that refused to except that GT was non-canon.
The valadity of that article was proved to be true.
Uh no, I’ve proved GT non-canon numerous times, you just refuse to except it.
No you haven’t actually and why would I refuse to accept somthing that isn’t true?

And yeah, Goku charged up his Kamehameha and then fired after Cell cursed, I’m saying he fires the instant he teleports. Basically as soon as he reappears he fires the blast.
I see.
Good.

It doesn’t matter whether Superman’s Ki is high or low, a Human’s adverage is 10 Ki (so says DBZ) So we have to assume that if Supers doesn’t have a high Ki level that it will be simillar to a human’s Ki, and Goku could sense Bulma’s Ki out so he could still find superman... which may help with the whole Superman moving around a lot. If supes remains on earth Goku has seen earth, so he should be able to detect Supe’s Ki and teleport to that specific location.
Seeing as these twos fight would probably cause alot of destruction Supes would probably try to leave earth.
As would Goku. Actually he wouldn’t fight on Earth in the first place. Heh.
Funny most of his other fights take place on earth, also Goku can’t breath in space.
Yeah, but he wishes the damage and deaths to be returned to normal and funny as you said, “many”.

And I didn’t know the creators said that about Supermam, the way you explained it I assumed it was fans thinking about it too much.
Nah it was the creators. They decided that Superman himself with that much durability was overpowered and gave him the aura. Anyway I’m going in I’ll have to continue this tomorrow.
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I want proof that SSJ13 exists, if you give me proof I’ll do anything you ask me to do. I’m that damn sure that 13 doesn’t exists. Also, if you’ve e-mailed Akira Toriyama then what is his e-mail? Oh wait he told you that you can’t give it out to anybody right?
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02 Oct 2006 06:10 pm
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UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
OverLord wrote:
No problem
Lol?
I fail to see the humor in this.
The reason? Simply that’s you’re a dolt.
Really the dolt is a guy who joined a site just because he thinks Goku beats Supes,aka you.

Part one - http://youtube.com/watch?v=60ClMfxH7l8
Part Two - http://youtube.com/watch?v=bwBsYyHOBWM&mode=related&search=

Unfortunately I have a slow computer, I’ll have to check the links tomorow seeing as I’m about to go to bed.
Lmao.
Whatever.
Yeah...

I’m not too sure which part it is in though, sorry.

No worrys.
Kool.

About the Instant transmission, it’s coming back to me now, did he say that he could only use the Instant Transmission if he had seen the place he was going to? So then again, if Superman moved around too much Goku might not be able to follow him.

Not to sure, I don’t think so though.
Yeah, but Goku is too experienced and powerful to be tricked like that.
Really he seems to be tricked alot to me.
Oh really? Why was it only ONE instance then? That being against Raditz. And what Frieza and the rest did weren’t tricks; that was stupidity for all the got from that was getting themselves pwned into oblivion.
Stupidity that Superman could use against him, also with Frieza he was holding back, Cell evenly matched until he regenerated and Goku wanted Gohan to take over, Fat Buu evenly matched, Super But out of his league, Kid Buu out of his league.

And I thought you was saying GT was cannon? Or was that somebody else... I can’t remember, Gt isn’t cannon so I won’t use it either way.

Nah that was Yusif and Cloud that refused to except that GT was non-canon.
The valadity of that article was proved to be true.
Uh no, I’ve proved GT non-canon numerous times, you just refuse to except it.
No you haven’t actually and why would I refuse to accept somthing that isn’t true?
Gt has been proven non-canon by me and God of War, for starters it wasn’t made by Toriyama, has alot of contradictions, and is even just considered a non-canon side story.

And yeah, Goku charged up his Kamehameha and then fired after Cell cursed, I’m saying he fires the instant he teleports. Basically as soon as he reappears he fires the blast.
I see.
Good.

It doesn’t matter whether Superman’s Ki is high or low, a Human’s adverage is 10 Ki (so says DBZ) So we have to assume that if Supers doesn’t have a high Ki level that it will be simillar to a human’s Ki, and Goku could sense Bulma’s Ki out so he could still find superman... which may help with the whole Superman moving around a lot. If supes remains on earth Goku has seen earth, so he should be able to detect Supe’s Ki and teleport to that specific location.
Seeing as these twos fight would probably cause alot of destruction Supes would probably try to leave earth.
As would Goku. Actually he wouldn’t fight on Earth in the first place. Heh.
Funny most of his other fights take place on earth, also Goku can’t breath in space.
Yeah, but he wishes the damage and deaths to be returned to normal
True.

and funny as you said, “many”.
His fights in DB and DBZ, seems like alot to me.

And I didn’t know the creators said that about Supermam, the way you explained it I assumed it was fans thinking about it too much.
Nah it was the creators. They decided that Superman himself with that much durability was overpowered and gave him the aura. Anyway I’m going in I’ll have to continue this tomorrow.
Sweet have fun.
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Manchester Black wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
OverLord wrote:
No problem
Lol?
I fail to see the humor in this.
The reason? Simply that’s you’re a dolt.
Really the dolt is a guy who joined a site just because he thinks Goku beats Supes,aka you.
I could have figured... Look who’s talking w/ his fanboyish user.

Part one - http://youtube.com/watch?v=60ClMfxH7l8
Part Two - http://youtube.com/watch?v=bwBsYyHOBWM&mode=related&search=

Unfortunately I have a slow computer, I’ll have to check the links tomorow seeing as I’m about to go to bed.
Lmao.
Whatever.
Yeah...

I’m not too sure which part it is in though, sorry.

No worrys.
Kool.

About the Instant transmission, it’s coming back to me now, did he say that he could only use the Instant Transmission if he had seen the place he was going to? So then again, if Superman moved around too much Goku might not be able to follow him.

Not to sure, I don’t think so though.
Yeah, but Goku is too experienced and powerful to be tricked like that.
Really he seems to be tricked alot to me.
Oh really? Why was it only ONE instance then? That being against Raditz. And what Frieza and the rest did weren’t tricks; that was stupidity for all the got from that was getting themselves pwned into oblivion.
Stupidity that Superman could use against him,
I meant that the villains were being stupid... Learn to think!
also with Frieza he was holding back,
Of course he was.
Cell evenly matched until he regenerated and Goku wanted Gohan to take over,
Yup, he could have finished Cell w/ his warp kamehameha and a few ki blasts but being like Goku he unfortunatly didn’t.
Fat Buu evenly matched,
Nope, much stronger but holding back as he told Piccolo that he wanted the kids to kill Buu because Earth would need them after Goku died but he still had to take care of him.
Super But out of his league,
Vegito > Goku SSJ3 > Kid Buu > Vegeta SSJ2 > Mystic Gohan > Gotenks SSJ3 > Base Super Buu > Majin Buu (the fat one) *pink blob lol* > everone else.
Kid Buu out of his league.
Look above.

And I thought you was saying GT was cannon? Or was that somebody else... I can’t remember, Gt isn’t cannon so I won’t use it either way.

Nah that was Yusif and Cloud that refused to except that GT was non-canon.
The valadity of that article was proved to be true.
Uh no, I’ve proved GT non-canon numerous times, you just refuse to except it.
No you haven’t actually and why would I refuse to accept somthing that isn’t true?
Gt has been proven non-canon by me and God of War, for starters it wasn’t made by Toriyama, has alot of contradictions, and is even just considered a non-canon side story.
I proved the contradictions wrong way before. Toriyama had work in it btw. It’s considered canon in it’s own right.

And yeah, Goku charged up his Kamehameha and then fired after Cell cursed, I’m saying he fires the instant he teleports. Basically as soon as he reappears he fires the blast.

I see.
Good.

It doesn’t matter whether Superman’s Ki is high or low, a Human’s adverage is 10 Ki (so says DBZ) So we have to assume that if Supers doesn’t have a high Ki level that it will be simillar to a human’s Ki, and Goku could sense Bulma’s Ki out so he could still find superman... which may help with the whole Superman moving around a lot. If supes remains on earth Goku has seen earth, so he should be able to detect Supe’s Ki and teleport to that specific location.
Seeing as these twos fight would probably cause alot of destruction Supes would probably try to leave earth.
As would Goku. Actually he wouldn’t fight on Earth in the first place. Heh.
Funny most of his other fights take place on earth, also Goku can’t breath in space.
Yeah, but he wishes the damage and deaths to be returned to normal
True.
Yeah, same w/ Supes except not w/ the dballs lol.

and funny as you said, “many”.
His fights in DB and DBZ, seems like alot to me.
I was talking about major fights or like Sagas like Buu saga i.e.

And I didn’t know the creators said that about Supermam, the way you explained it I assumed it was fans thinking about it too much.
Nah it was the creators. They decided that Superman himself with that much durability was overpowered and gave him the aura. Anyway I’m going in I’ll have to continue this tomorrow.
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03 Oct 2006 06:39 pm
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OverLord wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
I could have figured... Look who’s talking w/ his fanboyish user.
You.

About the Instant transmission, it’s coming back to me now, did he say that he could only use the Instant Transmission if he had seen the place he was going to? So then again, if Superman moved around too much Goku might not be able to follow him.

Not to sure, I don’t think so though.
Yeah, but Goku is too experienced and powerful to be tricked like that.
Really he seems to be tricked alot to me.
Oh really? Why was it only ONE instance then? That being against Raditz. And what Frieza and the rest did weren’t tricks; that was stupidity for all the got from that was getting themselves pwned into oblivion.
Stupidity that Superman could use against him,
I meant that the villains were being stupid... Learn to think!
No you anyone that denies Goku isn’t that smart has to be the biggest fanboy out there.

Super But out of his league,
Vegito > Goku SSJ3 > Kid Buu > Vegeta SSJ2 > Mystic Gohan > Gotenks SSJ3 > Base Super Buu > Majin Buu (the fat one) *pink blob lol* > everone else.
Your quite wrong with this, its
Vegito>Mystic Buu>Gotenks Buu>Mystic Gohan>Super Buu>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku>Majin Buu> Kid Buu.

Kid Buu out of his league.
Look above.
If he could control his SSJ3 form yes but since he couldn’t no.

I proved the contradictions wrong way before.
No you didn’t.

Toriyama had work in it btw.
Yeah a few designs.

It’s considered canon in it’s own right.
No its not.

and funny as you said, “many”.
His fights in DB and DBZ, seems like alot to me.
I was talking about major fights or like Sagas like Buu saga i.e.
His fights in DB were major until DBZ.
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06 Oct 2006 04:58 am
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they are three different kid goku’s.
theres:
Goku jr who can go ssj2
normal kid Goku from dragonball no ki powerup
Grandpa Goku form dragonball GT who can go ssj4
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No, Goku does loser.

DARKSLAYER07 wrote: — — — — - superboy wins
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Cid wrote: I want proof that SSJ13 exists, if you give me proof I’ll do anything you ask me to do. I’m that damn sure that 13 doesn’t exists. Also, if you’ve e-mailed Akira Toriyama then what is his e-mail? Oh wait he told you that you can’t give it out to anybody right?
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UltimaLegendXReborn wrote: No, Goku does loser.

DARKSLAYER07 wrote: — — — — - superboy wins

Dude, you just insulted someone for nothing other than the fact that he has a different oppinion than you. Nice going, you just proved how retarded you are.
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UltimaLegendXReborn wrote: Umm, yeah it is.

Cid wrote: 3 GT isn’t cannon

no it’s not.
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UltimaLegendXReborn wrote: Put a 1 before the three and yep you got it.

Atresac wrote: Only SS3 exists... and where are you getting the J from?

has SS13 ever been seen? No. Therefore there is no evidence of its existence and you are making shit up. All they have ever shown in SS4 and that was in GT which isn’t cannon so stop making shit up kthnxbai
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